I've been skipping through this thread, but what was the reason for it?why does that kids shirt say
think i'm
lesbian
edit: oh, we've already been over that. sorry.
KS have had more than enough time to respond to this and we all know it. It's obvious that they've decided not to take action and it's not exactly a secret why.
Is there any other course of action we can take? Seriously?
Just curious, has anyone actively tried to get the word out to other gaming sites? Seems like something Kotaku would run. And Patrick Klepek is good with investigative stuff as it seems to scratch an itch of his. I'm sure there's plenty others but I don't go to too many sites these days. And with the Twitter issues of claims that we're all now misogynists this could definitely be something interesting to see something like Patrick interview the people that think the distaste for this Kickstarter is incorrectly believed to be aimed at bringing women down.
The report button is there for a reason, you know.
The report button is there for a reason, you know.
KS have had more than enough time to respond to this and we all know it. It's obvious that they've decided not to take action and it's not exactly a secret why.
Is there any other course of action we can take? Seriously?
Don't support Kickstarter, and if there's ever a project on the site you'd like to support tell those involved to set up a Paypal account or something so you can donate directly to them.
I think this might be what I'll do in the future for projects I want to support advertised on KS.
New article about the interweb's findings:
http://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2013/03/kickstarter-girl-coding-susan-wilson/
Unfortunately, it is unlikely that reports will do anything particularly after the sheer number of people saying they have reported it through this past weekend. Susan just made an update on her KS page and it included a message from a "John" from Kickstarter giving her their seal of approval.
When I was looking at her KS page, the funding actually dipped below $21k, but went back up a few minutes later. Word is getting around.
I dunno if she's truly a millionaire, but there's lots of parents out there (mine included) who don't make a whole lot of money and but still pay a good portion of their children's education.
And yet this lady can't get 829 dollars? lol obviously this has been discussed, but it really grinds my geeearrsss.
I dunno if she's truly a millionaire, but there's lots of parents out there (mine included) who don't make a whole lot of money and but still pay a good portion of their children's education.
And yet this lady can't get 829 dollars? lol obviously this has been discussed, but it really grinds my geeearrsss.
I seem to remember that she sold the kinkos.com domain back in 2000 for $100 million... I think it's likely she's still sitting on some of that cash now.
Actually, she can get $829 because she has already paid for the week of camp (I think, if I am reading it correctly).
So regardless of whether her KS continues or not, Mackenzie is still going to camp which is totally a good thing. But the exploitation stuff is still a bad thing.
So regardless of whether her KS continues or not, Mackenzie is still going to camp which is totally a good thing. But the exploitation stuff is still a bad thing.
Actually, she can get $829 because she has already paid for the week of camp (I think, if I am reading it correctly).
So regardless of whether her KS continues or not, Mackenzie is still going to camp which is totally a good thing. But the exploitation stuff is still a bad thing.
So she is basically using kickstarter to reimburse her then?
I think the total was $1,348.00 and they only paid off $250.00 leaving a balance of $1,098.00.
I think the actual course costs $829 and they want KS to pay for that and they're gonna cover the costs of the overnight camp which is $519.
Fucking ridiculous.
So she is basically using kickstarter to reimburse her then?
My mistake. She's only paid for $250 then.
Sorry, sarcasm doesn't transfer well over the Internet.
I said that because some woman on Twitter just started screaming "Misogyny" without refuting any of the points made. No explanation, nothing.
This whole situation is far from being misogyny. They just make it into that. They want it to be that.
Assuming this is the entire kickstarter team... where's "John"?
yeah, I think we should give kickstarter till the end of the week at the most. Kickstarter is a large website and I'm sure they get plenty of reports a day. Let them have time to investigate into this one. If we get no word from them then It's safe to say they Dgaf.They're really circling the wagons in the comment section now. The neckbeard accusations are flying fast and fierce.
On the topic of contacting Kickstarter, I think I'll give them one more day to at least say something, though I would clearly prefer if they just shut it down outright. Then I will compose a lengthy e-mail for kickstarter and perhaps send it to other relevant parties (news, developers who could stand to be harmed by kickstarter losing credibility, i dunno...)
Actually, she can get $829 because she has already paid for the week of camp (I think, if I am reading it correctly).My mistake, she has only paid $250.
So regardless of whether her KS continues or not, Mackenzie is still going to camp which is totally a good thing. But the exploitation stuff is still a bad thing.
Yeah, it's just frustrating to sit here watching this train wreck. Need to distract myself.yeah, I think we should give kickstarter till the end of the week at the most. Kickstarter is a large website and I'm sure they get plenty of reports a day. Let them have time to investigate into this one. If we get no word from them then It's safe to say they Dgaf.
They're really circling the wagons in the comment section now. The neckbeard accusations are flying fast and fierce.
On the topic of contacting Kickstarter, I think I'll give them one more day to at least say something, though I would clearly prefer if they just shut it down outright. Then I will compose a lengthy e-mail for kickstarter and perhaps send it to other relevant parties (news, developers who could stand to be harmed by kickstarter losing credibility, i dunno...)
So, we have established 100% that she is not beyond outright lying...
Before we had only assumed she had lied. Now we know she does it, so it's more likely she's been doing it the whole time.
Kickstarter for porn?People from /v/ have been reporting this for days. Nothing is going to happen because Kockstarter is a platform for people to make money, including Kickstarter.
People from /v/ have been reporting this for days. Nothing is going to happen because Kickstarter is a platform for people to make money, including Kickstarter.
Kickstarter for porn?
I wouldn't call that proving anything 100%. They could be outsourcing customer service calls/emails and such.
Well, at what point does Kickstarter stand to lose more money by not shutting this charade down? Several people have talked about boycotting Kickstarter if they don't shut this down. I'm currently backing 7 projects and I could envision myself spending upwards of $200 every year on kickstarter (assuming quality projects continue appearing.) How many people like me boycotting kickstarter makes this an unprofitable venture.People from /v/ have been reporting this for days. Nothing is going to happen because Kockstarter is a platform for people to make money, including Kickstarter.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/susanwilson/9-year-old-building-an-rpg-to-prove-her-brothers-w
$21,801
pledged of $829 goal
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009...t_powerful_women_entrepreneurs.fortune/8.html
http://www.inc.com/magazine/20080601/the-judgment-group-will-make-sure-you-get-paid.html
Not the first case like this on kickstarter : http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...kes-to-kickstarter-to-fund-pie-in-the-sky-mmo
There is no backlash. It's just some nerds on the Internet who have noticed what's up. If this got picked up by big sites maybe they'd shut it down but no big site is gonna touch it cos its based on two basic ideas; aww kids are cute and let's stop girls being oppressed. Nobody is going to challenge that.Well, at what point does Kickstarter stand to lose more money by not shutting this charade down? Several people have talked about boycotting Kickstarter if they don't shut this down. I'm currently backing 7 projects and I could envision myself spending upwards of $200 every year on kickstarter (assuming quality projects continue appearing.) How many people like me boycotting kickstarter makes this an unprofitable venture.
Also, I'm not totally ready to take such a cynical view of Kickstarter's motivations, although my optimism recedes by the hour.
This is nothing like the Anita Sarkeesian Kickstarter.
He should have created a kickstarter to get his daughter's teeth fixed instead.
Damn gums are growing and covering up her pearly whites.
In closing, for the people that feel so violated by this campaign, I'd think the death threats against a 9 year old and her mother would resonate with your sense of justice as well. Perhaps in your free time you can research these two threats in particular and follow up with the FBI because I'm certain death threats, slander and libel are against the law (which equals even BIGGER violations of Kickstarter's Terms of Service & Guidelines)!