YES! I remember it being larger though
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Photobucket seems to have shrank it. Uploaded again.
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Always min.us though?
(No1currs, I know)
I'm thinking the 3.7meg(!) filesize is what causes issues with image hosts.
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Vita PSN Game & Service Thread | March 2013 | Carving an Independent niche
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Photobucket seems to have shrank it. Uploaded again.
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Always min.us though?
(No1currs, I know)
I'm thinking the 3.7meg(!) filesize is what causes issues with image hosts.
BlackLagoon
Member
Uh, have you actually looked up Atlus' sales figures? Their games don't sell millions regardless of hardware sales. Fact is that Persona 4 Golden was their best selling game of the previous fiscal year in Japan, beating their 3DS games by quite a margin. It's hardly "ridiculous" to suggest that matters.
JakkuFurosu
Member
Im slowly playing through it now. I wouldve been long done with it on Vita....kinda tough to grab tv/ps3 time in my house.
Maybe Team Ninja Dog is optimizing it. They should recall carts as well.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
michaelius
Banned
Just saying but P4G is best selling handheld Persona released so far (in Japan and probably EU).
Weird, I'll check it out.
OMG a fellow gaffer was contemplating buying NGS2+!
EDIT: It's there for me.
Ha.
I will never get the hours I wasted on that back.
Maybe Team Ninja Dog is optimizing it. They should recall carts as well.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
The story mode is pretty playable now.
Instead of optimizations, I'd focus on fixing Tag Mission mode or patching in co-op.
Try seeing it without your account. You'll see it obviously since you bought it.
By having to change default settings.
AKA: Optimizations.
Or make the AI invincible and therefore able to kick ass while you twirl around with Rachel for the trophies. Online is just going to be crazy bad if they didn't fix the netcode.
Persona 4 Golden is actually a high profile game though, compared to their 3DS output on a console that had maybe 1 other game over 100,00. Or are you actually suggesting that P4G sold more simply because it was on the Vita?
The fact the RE: Revelations that is considered a flop by some and, at least in Japan, it's ousold every Vita game says a lot.
We don't know anything about the EU, I'd question that. Secondly of course it is in Japan. Persona 4 is a brand itself (hence P4A and the Anime) which is several magnitudes bigger than P1 and P2 and a significanly bigger than P3. Let's for a second assume P3 as a brand is as big as P4 (it's not but let's just assume for sake of ease of comparison.) Its basically competing against Persona 3 Portable. Now while I personally love the game it takes only a quick look at what quite a few people are saying to notice that many don't consider it "a real Persona experience." Of course something with that sort of label is not going to perform. Not to mention that Persona 3 Portable was the third version of P3 to be released wheras P4G is the second version of P4 to be released. Obviously the more times you release the same game the less people are going to jump on. P4G had very little to do with the Vita: in fact it would have likely done better on the 3DS.
Yeah, that's something I realized after I posted. :b
EDIT: Huh, it is gone. Weird.
Post-patch, you really only have to disable the blood. But I'm not having any issues with the framerate on mentor with blood on.
I was thinking more along the lines of re-done missions that aren't impossible to do and maybe make the switching characters aspect more interesting (like actually entice the player to want to switch due to some benefit other then preventing the AI from getting their ass kicked).
Yeah, that's true, but I still miss it. :b
A PS2 port is a whole lot cheaper than a mainline Resident Evil.
DR2K
Banned
Well it was a broken piece of shit.
Probably, but it's hard to say exactly what profit margins are on both games so I was looking at raw sale figures (especially since RE:R just reused the RE:M engine.) I mean I could cherry pick some further examples to show how most software sells more on the 3DS (Just MGS HD vs MGS 3D as a further example.)
The exception, I'd like to add though, is probably small independent games. They probably sell better because the general conception of the Vita base being more "core" gamers is probably correct. As a result they are more likely to buy well recieved but niche games (out of the sight of the "casual" market.)
DR2K
Banned
There's little to no sales data software wise outside of Japan. Portable software outside of Nintendo's major software rarely ever charts and if it does, it's only for a month or so.
BlackLagoon
Member
Persona 4 Golden sold well compared to the franchises history on the PSP. There's little reason to believe a cut down version would do better on it or the 3DS, and quite "ridiculous" to fixate on hardware sales when it didn't turn Atlus titles into million sellers on the PS2, DS or PSP.
And this is relevant, how? I mean, it outsold every Atlus game other than Persona 4. Does that say a lot too?
CaptainTiptop
Member
Did I stumble into the Media Create thread?
Guacamelee in like, two weeks. I'm excited. The Vita version doesn't have co-op though, does it?
Guacamelee in like, two weeks. I'm excited. The Vita version doesn't have co-op though, does it?
Napalm_Frank
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Persona 4 of course. Especially if its still temp price dropped.
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I think they're both games every member of Vitagaf should own. Persona 4 Golden is on sale though if you're in NA, so you may want to get that first.
BlackLagoon
Member
Cobalt Runner? I believe it wasn't supposed to come out until summer, though the devs haven't updated their page since October, and this is a project that's been in development for years, originally for the PSP (homebrew presumably).
What you know about using Invincible and Reverse Damage to powerlevel? Getting a LV1 Prinny to 16 with one enemy is why I love I Item World
when using invincible be sure to make sure the geosquares don't walk around and that you didn't get knocked around by a special attack.
when using reverse damage make sure to check to see if the enemies have healing spells, they hurt a crap done if they do.
best luck in the world to power level... invincible right next to a crit square... that's just amazing.
Hopefully somone realized there were game breaking bugs and aesthetical bugs that should have never made the final version. Somehow got through 7 chapters and will be completing it soon. Such a same considering how solid the first game was.
Both are excellent. P4 if you want a long term, meaty story driven RPG and DOA if you want something just as meaty but in a more pick up and play, fast paced, technical kind of way.
I put 70+ hours into P4 on the PS2 and the Vita version is better in every way. I've already put nearly 15 hours into DOA in less than 2 weeks and I've yet to hit the halfway mark for single player content, much less make a dent in the online matches. It really comes down to what you are in the mood for at this particular time.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I am doing mental gymnastics right now trying to convince my self to spend another $35 on PSN to get another $10 back. I always wanted to play Ys and Tactics Ogre and those games put me at that mark, and really can't imagine ever getting those games for what would essentially be $25 together. Then again I got too many RPGs lol. Maybe I will get Tactics Ogre, Sunflowers, Escapevektor, and some other $5 game out there. Argh!!! Decisions!
Edit: Now I talked myself out of it again lol. If I did nothing and just focused on my backlog instead that would leave me with $64 in my PSN wallet and then $74 after the $10 back. If spent another $35 I would net $49 after the $20 back, and have that much less to spend on all of the indie titles sure to drop in the next couple of months. Which I am much more likely to play right away.
Edit: Now I talked myself out of it again lol. If I did nothing and just focused on my backlog instead that would leave me with $64 in my PSN wallet and then $74 after the $10 back. If spent another $35 I would net $49 after the $20 back, and have that much less to spend on all of the indie titles sure to drop in the next couple of months. Which I am much more likely to play right away.
I love them both but I'd get P4G first.
DOA5+ is a visual treat as well as being a solid, strategic fighting game. Make sure to get it next. (I suck at fighting games too but DOA5+ has a great tutorial to get anyone willing to learn up to speed.)
No. This is ignoring the facts of the matter. If you're someone unfamiliar with the series: let me inform you that Persona 1 and 2 are barely Persona games at all (at least when comparing them to modern Persona games.) They play completely differently, have a vastly different art style and a much smaller fan base. Comparing P1 and P2 to P4G is not even fair, I may as well compare Final Fantasy 7 to Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest.
P3P is a little more valid of a comparison but still not:
1) P3 is less popular than P4, due to virtue of P4 having an Anime and being pushed much harder by Atlus. P4 generally has a higher mainstream appeal.
2) P3P was considered a "watered-down" port. P4G is considered the definitive version.
3) P3P was the third variation of Persona 3 only 2 years after the previous variation of P3 and 3 years after the original P3. P4G was the second variation of P4 and it was 4 years after the only other version.
4) P4G was preceeded by Persona 4 Arena which helped further the P4 brand.
There are many reasons you can't compare P4G to P3P and to even suggest that it's comparable to P1 and P2 is absurd (though understandable if you don't know the series.) Also who's to say P4G would have to be watered down for the 3DS? If the PS2 could handle it, the 3DS could. The graphics would take a hit from the Vita version but otherwise it could easily be done for the 3DS.
The Persona series is currently at the height of it's popularity (a Persona 3 movie is in the works for this year) and with Japan being handheld-centric Persona 5 on the 3DS could easily do more than Persona 4 did on the PS2. Likewise Persona 4 Golden could probably have moved more on the 3DS than the Vita, but Atlus likely had other reasons for doing so.
Saying that P4G sold more than all other Atlus products combined last year is equivalent to saying the Mario and Animal Crossing series outsold all other Nintendo games combined last year (I'm pretty sure they did) Does that show the inherint weakness in the other games or the consoles they were on? No, just that the Mario and Animal Crossing brands are particularly strong Nintendo IPs.
The RE vs P4G comment doesn't show a lot except for sales expectations between the two platforms. A game doesn 200,000 on the Vita and is considered a success whether such a game does the same on the 3DS and is considered a bomb because 3DS games sell better.
Edit: On that note I don't want to clog up this lovely thread so I'll stop.
corrosivefrost
Member
Buy escapeVektor anyway and then find a way to convince yourself (or not) to spend another ~$30.
Hey, did you guys see the Vita & WiiU failure thread? Yeah, I'm staying away from that one, lest I end up like Carl.
Don't feel bad. I'm in that club.
Grand total? $200.59
It wasn't that hard though, with the 15 month PS+ for essentially $40, Darkstalkers, Dead Space 3 DLC, and buying Sony Smash (PS3)... all that alone, basically put me at $115 or more. Add in Stranger's Wrath, Smart As..., and Peace Walker... and that's another $45. It adds up quick.
I'm in the process of backing up BlazBlue to my laptop to make room for another $50 batch of games. These pretzels sales are making me thirsty.
I'm thinking of getting:
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed $20
Persona 2: Innocent Sin $15
I still have $5 in my wallet so I can spend another $20 and get Peace Walker. What do you guys think? I never played it before and I liked what I've played of MGS 2 & 3.
Yeah saw that one. Talk about a hasty generalization. I'm just going to avoid it too.
I'm thinking of getting:
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed $20
Persona 2: Innocent Sin $15
I still have $5 in my wallet so I can spend another $20 and get Peace Walker. What do you guys think? I never played it before and I liked what I've played of MGS 2 & 3.
Yeah saw that one. Talk about a hasty generalization. I'm just going to avoid it too.
im at $5
though I am still debating about getting totori and something cheap to bring me to $50... I'm thinking I will just wait until totori goes on sale though as the vita version doesn't seem to add nearly as much as disgaea 3 or persona 4 vita did compared to the base game.
So almost ~1.5 hours after I sat down to play a quick game of Lumines while my gf made pancakes, I snapped out of the zone and ate my cold prize. In. The. Zone.
Does Lumines disable screenshots? If not, press the home button + start to take a screenshot. Download the Flickr app to upload them straight from your Vita.
You wrote too much and I don't really care about this conversation enough to read that entire blob.
1) Persona 3 actually had an anime series that ended about a year and a half before Persona 3 Portable came out.
4) P4G launched before P4A did in Japan. It didn't benefit from good word of mouth on a game that hadn't been released on consoles yet.
What bugs have you encountered out of curiosity?
Maybe use the back reartouch. Not so good but a more elegant solution since I can imagine your fingers straining while trying to surf the item menu.
JakkuFurosu
Member
I still have no clue wtf I was doing....everytime i clicked fight I prayed the trophy popped to end my suffering
The Grim Heaper
Member
New thread will be up either tomorrow afternoon or early night.
In other news, this game. So good.
In other news, this game. So good.
I'm waiting for it to be localized, but I want that pretty bad.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I ran across a game breaking bug in Machinarium. Basically there is a sliding puzzle that you have to solve to get a cat (more involved than that, but spoilers) and when I was solving the sliding puzzle a piece just disappeared and made it so I could not solve the puzzle. I think what happened was my fingers were ever so slightly on the rear touch pad while I was using the sticks to move the cursor and it caused the piece to wig out and vanish. Nothing I did made the piece come back and I had to start a whole new game to reset the puzzle. Was a bummer, but it was easy to blaze through the puzzles up to that point. Just remember to create a save right before that point.