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JPCSP - Excellent PSP emulation, support improving all the time! |PICS|
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Far from a blurry mess...
BlazeHedgehog
Member
I still don't think this is a very good way to go about making a PSP emulator, though. I heard of something recently called PPSSPP that seems like it might be way more promising once compatibility increases a bit more.
http://www.ppsspp.org/
jediyoshi
Member
Do you really care how the sausage is made? What's the actual issue here? If it works as intended, it could be closed source for all I care. I'll just take whatever works best.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Because Java's got a ton of overhead and doesn't really make sense for a project like this? It's like building a house using a carnival mallet to hammer in the nails. It's going to take an unnecessary amount of work to get these games running well, and even then it's going to require significantly more processing power than if you just wrote an emulator in any other language.
PPSSPP is already showing massive performance gains over JPCSP simply because it's not in Java. It's a shitty environment to make an emulator like this in. Hell, the NES/Gameboy emulators people have written in Java don't always run terribly well, why on earth would somebody think a PSP emulator would?
I'm sure it's a nice programming exercise for the dude but its usability for the average joe leaves a lot to be desired.
Wolf Akela
Member
I tried PPSSPP on my phone a few days ago and the performance surprised me. Crisis Core ran at full speed.
Agreed, psp games look and play great on the Vita screen.
Canis lupus
Member
On your phone? I haven't been able to play a single psp game on my game pc with jpcsp.
Wolf Akela
Member
Samsung Note II. Compatibility is really low though. Crisis Core doesn't play vids so I had to download an end-game save.
jediyoshi
Member
Can you define well? Is there any metric past full speed I should be looking at? Because a large amount of games already work completely playable which is the end result most people are only looking to care for anyway. I think you're pulling in too many assumptions about users as to how much they care about what's going on behind the scenes. As PPSSPP gains in popularity and people switch over, it'll be because of whatever performance improvements there will be, not because of some anti-java stigma.
Just tried Wipeout Pure on my 500$, 2 years old laptop
JPCSP - 10-15 fps
ppsspp - 60 fps
And that's with PPSSPP being out for only 4 months.
Damon Bennet
Member
so is PPSSPP already better or what
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
PPSSPP can run OreImo Portable 2 pretty alright with a bunch of bugs!
Birth by Sleep and Dracula X Chronicles not so much, but if they can get it working well I'll un-CFW my Vita.
Birth by Sleep and Dracula X Chronicles not so much, but if they can get it working well I'll un-CFW my Vita.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
JPCSP seems like it probably has higher compatibility right now but PPSSPP has way better performance.
PPSSPP's compatibility will increase, though. Just gotta give it time.
Yes and no. Performance wise you'll get better framerate on PPSSPP emu, but it's lacking game sound/music right now for most of the games but that should eventually be fixed.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Finally, a non-Java PSP emulator. Glad I checked this topic.
I pretty much agree with what Sega1991 said. Looking forward to compatibility improvements. And hopefully it doesn't require that extra program to be installed just for sound to work.
I pretty much agree with what Sega1991 said. Looking forward to compatibility improvements. And hopefully it doesn't require that extra program to be installed just for sound to work.
HolyBaikal
Banned
Last time I tried this out the emulator didn't work for me at all.
Glad to see it is making some real progress. The PSP has a fantastic library and there's a lot of games I'd play a lot more of if I didn't have to use my PSP or Vita to play them.
Some of those screenshots are also downright gorgeous. Those Final Fantasy Type-0 screenshots look like The Last Remnant, a game that was actually released for the PC. It is a crime that I can't play a game like that normally on the PC and that so many games I want to play like that on the PC require emulators.
People and doing for free what could make Square Enix money. I would easily buy a copy of Type 0 looking like that on Steam. Guess I'll have to deal with this.
But this is undeniably impressive to look at. It makes me realize how sad it is that this game is a PSP exclusive with how well it upscales. These make me want to import this game just so I can legally emulate it.
Glad to see it is making some real progress. The PSP has a fantastic library and there's a lot of games I'd play a lot more of if I didn't have to use my PSP or Vita to play them.
Some of those screenshots are also downright gorgeous. Those Final Fantasy Type-0 screenshots look like The Last Remnant, a game that was actually released for the PC. It is a crime that I can't play a game like that normally on the PC and that so many games I want to play like that on the PC require emulators.
People and doing for free what could make Square Enix money. I would easily buy a copy of Type 0 looking like that on Steam. Guess I'll have to deal with this.
Quoting for impressiveness. I'm not even a big Final Fantasy fan. I am not dying for them to bring Type 0 over like a lot of people are. I'd take other jRPG franchises any day over Final Fantasy.downsampled from 1440p
But this is undeniably impressive to look at. It makes me realize how sad it is that this game is a PSP exclusive with how well it upscales. These make me want to import this game just so I can legally emulate it.
I would fall in love with that game with proper controls.
Update
Crisis Core 60fps on ppsspp, 15-20 fps on JPCSP.
ppsspp developers are wizards. I never thought I could emulate the psp on this laptop after trying JPCSP.
I hope they get Crisis Core running without glitches soon. I want to replay the game.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Why must people always post Type-0 pics? Do you guys just hate us baka gaijins that much? 
What a difference not being made in Java makes.
jediyoshi
Member
Having a vertex cache enabled by default probably doesn't hurt either.
Yeah, the dolphin devs are really some of the best. Not that jcpsp isn't a fairly decent emulator.
If you want to try PPSSPP with an early sceMpeg and sceAtrac (movie/music) implementation by 'oioitff', you can check out HERE (Windows).
I think it uses the same approach as JPCSP (using SonicStage or at least the DLL files).
BTW, this emu is pretty impressive. YS Seven is playable already, although with some slowdowns and flickering every 2-3 seconds (on Windows). Didn't try it a lot, though.
I think it uses the same approach as JPCSP (using SonicStage or at least the DLL files).
BTW, this emu is pretty impressive. YS Seven is playable already, although with some slowdowns and flickering every 2-3 seconds (on Windows). Didn't try it a lot, though.
PPSSPP is pretty impressive. On my Nexus 4 Ridge Racer 2 runs anywhere from 30fps to 60fps depending on how much geometry is one screen. (tunnels for example run at 60fps). There are some graphical glitches (first person mode doesn't work with overlays such as speedometer and ranking, rival cars can be seen through walls) but overall pretty impressive. God of War launched but ran at something like 1 frame a second. Tony Hawk Underground 2 launched but nothing was being drawn once in-game, only audio. Katamari had the same problem.
BigBadShamoo
Banned
This is an awesome thread
Try PPSSPP: http://www.ppsspp.org/
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Well, this gives me hope for retrying some of my old rips that I've had sitting around on a DVD for at least 2 years. Have an old Star Ocean 2nd Evolution save I would like to continue on so I hope that's possible.
that works better, but has the opposite affect. i think ill try to configure it in the morning
I just posted with imgur.
Just a heads up for the future, if you want to upload lossless images then use Minus if you can't figure out Abload.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Copied over, doesn't run SO 2 ><
toddhunter
Member
Ran some tests on PPPPPSSSSPPPPPSP or whatever it is:
Blazblue and 3rd birthday? Ran pretty great:
Persona 3, Ghosts of Sparta, BBS? Not really close to working.
My conclusion? JPCSP is still the place to be mainly for better compatibility and features like movies, but I can see PPSSPP being the emulator of choice very, very shortly. I'll be watching it closely.
Blazblue and 3rd birthday? Ran pretty great:
Persona 3, Ghosts of Sparta, BBS? Not really close to working.
My conclusion? JPCSP is still the place to be mainly for better compatibility and features like movies, but I can see PPSSPP being the emulator of choice very, very shortly. I'll be watching it closely.
synce
Member
Can't believe how quickly PPSSPP is improving, but the JPCSP author is no slouch either.
http://code.google.com/p/jpcsp/source/list
In the end I think PPSSPP will win
http://code.google.com/p/jpcsp/source/list
In the end I think PPSSPP will win
Unknown Soldier
Member
Native code will always win, but right now it seems to be a race to see who improves their emulator faster.
I don't have Java installed on any of my computers anymore, so it's PPSSPP for me or nothing.
I don't have Java installed on any of my computers anymore, so it's PPSSPP for me or nothing.
1. Click on the little icon with a house and a plus sign, next to the 2.
2. Select the pictures you want.
3. Press the big green button with the word Abload.
storafötter
Member
Amazing stuff. Going to try this with the nexus 7. I hope that the ps3 controllers work with the emulator.