Extra Sauce
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Party chat is the most important feature for me and my friends. It's the reason we're on Xbox Live and not PSN.
As for next-gen, we just don't know. I wish people stopped making judgements based on information they don't have.
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Microsoft sells Mediaroom, Xbox to be their TV strategy going forward
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Party chat is the most important feature for me and my friends. It's the reason we're on Xbox Live and not PSN.
As for next-gen, we just don't know. I wish people stopped making judgements based on information they don't have.
And sometimes where there's a fire there is a BBQ and I love BBQs!
Same here, how do they do an viable IPTV service in Europe?
The current TV providers are not stupid & have all their content encrypted so they only work with each providers box.
I can't see them agreeing to give MS access to their stream or decryption.
If its just a FTA device then its bound to fail as these are standard on virtually all TVs sold in Europe already or through a very cheap box under the TV.
Syphon Filter
Member
It's rumors indeed but it is suspect that it keeps coming up from different sources. There is nothing else to talk about regarding the nextbox so that is why people are discussing these rumors. I am sure most would like this to be fake as it is bad for the industry.
Depends on the meat quality though.
This is kind of Microsoft's move when they launch a new product. Cast the net as wide as possible. So, you'll be hearing a lot about the non-gaming aspects of the next box, much to the annoyance of the core gamers.
It was true to a lesser extent for the 360 also. A ton of focus on the tertiary stuff.
It was true to a lesser extent for the 360 also. A ton of focus on the tertiary stuff.
The studios that have been in the dark for a couple years, and the new ones, are certainly working on something.
I have a feeling we'll see multiple new IPs and some possible Rare reboots. I'd almost bet on it. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft has more new IPs to show off than Sony.
I'm one of the few cheering for both sides though.
....It also depends on how well it's cooked and the seasonings.
Where else besides your 360 can you use media you purchased through your 360? That's one device. I can't play it on the go, I can't play it in my bedroom where I don't have a 360. That's my point. How would they compete with Apple TV in the living room, iPad in the bedroom, and iPhone on the go playing a single purchased content? People won't buy multiple xboxes for this purpose and you can't take it on the go.
Change is scary
Miles Quaritch
Member
They aren't rumours any more. People are stating them as fact, and if the console shouldn't have those features, they'll covince themselves it was because of what they did.
We've been here before with the PS3 and no used games.
flyinpiranha
Member
It would be much easier to not join rumor and speculation threads than to stop an entire forum from discussing things they want to discuss, or completely ignore the posts that are obviously based on rumor (which would be every single post ever made about the new Xbox since nothing is official).
I wish people would stop saying "wait until the reveal" personally.
And I'm glad that the one reason you are on XBL keeps you there. I loved party chat too when I was in it, ruined other games when I was playing solo though as everybody else was in party chat too, but that's just opinion.
Party chat is literally the only thing differentiating them at this point besides the actual game selection.
I'm not making any purchasing decisions off of what I can only speculate on. I can say it's an uphill battle for MS after what XBL and their focus on games the past 2 years have been. I might love what they offer but based on rumors and leaks, I'm not really all that interested in what they are doing.
It can go either way, but based on what we've seen and heard, I'm not impressed.
MS's interest in gaming was always just a trojan horse to get Windows under the TV.
Thinking of Durango as a games console is selling it short. This is going to be a living room hub for the Windows 8 ecosystem of apps and media. It's the whole play: tablet+phone+TV+web services+media. The same thing Apple and Google are doing from different directions (and to a lesser extent Samsung and Sony).
Personally I think it's going to be an interesting device and they will win over a lot of the skeptics. It will have some great games, no doubt about that. Then just having an App store on a console is going to be a huge step forward from where we are currently.
Thinking of Durango as a games console is selling it short. This is going to be a living room hub for the Windows 8 ecosystem of apps and media. It's the whole play: tablet+phone+TV+web services+media. The same thing Apple and Google are doing from different directions (and to a lesser extent Samsung and Sony).
Personally I think it's going to be an interesting device and they will win over a lot of the skeptics. It will have some great games, no doubt about that. Then just having an App store on a console is going to be a huge step forward from where we are currently.
The Comcast Xfinity app and HBO GO are my goto apps for streaming HD movies and shows! MS adding its own cable IPTV is what I have been waiting for next gen, and MS will deliver on that front. With the standard Next gen Kinect on every Durango box, navigating through the IPtv with simple voice commands will make browsing that much easier! IPTV Another key feature the Durango system will have that the PS4 doesn't have.
Yup we know how it works.
They release 4 of their big franchises back to back including one only two weeks ago and it bu-bu-but what else?
They are publishing and releasing games on XBLA and it bu-bu-but that doesn't count because some of those may make it to PC.
Plus we know XBLA games don't count, only journey counts on PSN or if i's a multi like Walking Dead.
Standard.
Valkyria
Banned
Mu sumsung Tv do more than my 360 where I live, media wise. Good luck to Microsoft with their new strategy outside of the States.
But to truly leverage a single media purchase into a good buy, then I would need to also own a windows phone and windows tablet so I can use my media across multiple devices. And I just don't see the population jumping on the MS bandwagon for something Apple and Google are already doing so well and dominating at it. The sales of Windows phone and Windows tablets and the adoption rate of Windows 8 only proves that they have zero mindshare when it comes to people feeling like they want the breadth of MS's hardware product line. An Xbox media hub is not going to change people's minds. MS isn't going to stumble into an iTunes media store level of dominance. People are maybe going to use Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon streaming. Things they can use across devices with a single subscription.
I personally won't buy any media besides games on an Xbox because I don't have other devices to use it on.
One would think spinning on a level like this would hurt the head. It sure as hell hurts mine.
Syphon Filter
Member
Alx
Member
They can easily switch to a multiplatform strategy if they want/need to... in the end it's all about selling the services and the software. They already made some of the Xbox connectivity multiplatform (Smartglass runs on iPhones, android and of course windows phones), and even Office is extended to non-windows OS.
Extra Sauce
Member
This isn't a rumor thread.
I agree, but we dont really know what it is at the moment. Sure the "info" we have says it will be mainly media focused, but then I wonder how Microsoft will sell the system in countires other than the US, as the systems used elsewhere is very very different.
In the UK we get a free set top box with our cable subscription (Which can be quite cheap depending on the deals you go for), so I wonder what hoops microsoft will try to make customers jump through to have that "one box that does everything".
I have no idea how the rest of the world works on this front..
Alx
Member
I swear you guys have selective memory.
There were tons of rumors about ps4 locking out used games, having to register a game to a psn account so a connection to the internet would be required, no bc, pay to play online, etc.
Most of the rumors were proved false, but when February came around everyone just forgot those rumors even came up regularly.
This is hilariously true, still great news from MS.
I had to look up smartglass. So it just interacts and controls what's on your TV, right? You can't actually watch your 360 media collection on the go separate from your TV? Because that's what they're going to need to have available in order to make their product seem equal to other media purchasing possibilities that are out there.
Why are people so surprised?
It's funny that the next gen Xbox will play CDs and the PS4 won't.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I don't want this shit.
Oh please....,
Metalmurphy
Member
Classy.
In an actual rational world, people read this as MS shifting focus on the Xbox.
Ninja Scooter
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Ingeniero
Member
What shit?? a powerful gaming console that ALSO has a lot of living room features and services?
Really?
It may seem that way, but there was only ever one focus to begin with.
You could literally be describing any console (including the PS360 and WiiU) with that summary.
360 exclusives 2013: Gears of War Judgement.
PS3 exclusives 2013: Ni No Kuni, Sly Cooper, God of War Ascension, The Last of Us, Beyond, Pupeteer, Rain
Difference between MS and Sony in a nutshell.
Alx
Member
At the moment it's "only" adding additional info on a client screen (like details on the artist when music is playing, a GPS map in some game), and sometimes a little bit of interactivity (emulates a touch pad for IE, generic remote control...).
It's still very simple, but it's obviously a first step towards a complex communication between all your devices.