I live in Georgia. I don't think you've ever actually been in the south before.
Guess what, I live in Georgia too, and before that I lived in Illinios and Massachusettes. Georgia isn't any worse than those states from my experience.
I live in Georgia. I don't think you've ever actually been in the south before.
What he did was obviously stupid, but I still feel it was pretty harsh to fire him . Poor guy.
Personally I have sometimes opened my mouth and said some pretty stupid shit that I regretted later.. I'm sure everyone has.
What he did was obviously stupid, but I still feel it was pretty harsh to fire him . Poor guy.
Personally I have sometimes opened my mouth and said some pretty stupid shit that I regretted later.. I'm sure everyone has.
The problem is that not everyone is in a higher up position like that of a creative director for a video game production studio owned by a multi-billion dollar corporation.
The guy clearly didn't understand his responsibilities and the fact that he was expected to keep his fucking mouth shut about sensitive company matters.
He didnt say there was any monopoly. He just said he hates that there is more of it there.You just did. There is ignorance and racism in the north, east and west as well. No sense implying that the south has a monopoly on it or even the majority of it.
He DID mean to say that to a friend only, and as a joke. Of course when it's on Twitter everyone else in the world sees that and thinks differently, thus contributing to this shit storm."why on earth would I live there?" is the most ignorant thing I read in the last couple of months.
I rather live in the countryside than in a crowded, polluted and crime-ridden city, you arrogant fuck.
He DID meant to say that to a friend only, and as a joke. Of course when it's on Twitter everyone else in the world sees that and thinks differently, thus contributing to this shit storm.
And man, not like all cities are the same, nevermind suburbs.
Can't really contest either, that's kind of the problem with twitter in that it can be like a chatroom that the whole world can eavesdrop on. Unless you actually lock the damn thing, then at worst you have the fallback of claiming "well I made it private for a reason!" if someone retweets.well, he DID post it on twitter for the whole world to see.
it's his own fault. not that his other tweets are any better
That joke was taken out of context... He was making fun of where his friend lives. Also, I live in a low-crime city and it's quite nice."why on earth would I live there?" is the most ignorant thing I read in the last couple of months.
I rather live in the countryside than in a crowded, polluted and crime-ridden city, you arrogant fuck.
"why on earth would I live there?" is the most ignorant thing I read in the last couple of months.
I rather live in the countryside than in a crowded, polluted and crime-ridden city, you arrogant fuck.
well, he DID post it on twitter for the whole world to see.
it's his own fault. not that his other tweets are any better
"Why on earth would I live there?" was kinda supposed to be a joke, in the "not my problem" vein. People reacted, it was funny, and then it became a "thing". Online media ran stories, Orth received death threats, and Microsoft thought they had to act to quell the backlash.
Part of the reason it became a thing is because online peeps started to get mad face about it, and that part is annoying. As if what he wrote was the most offensive thing ever to be posted on the internet. As if Kamiya doesn't get praised for being a professional tweethole. I guess he gets a pass for being a gaming celebrity, I dunno. Point is it used to be a joke, and then it became a joke of a different order.
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Why do people keep making this comparison and pretending the context of these issues is the same thing?
I'd like an explanation on how these two situations are comparable outside of "guy in games industry makes douchey remarks".
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Good.
The guy was a clown and didn't deserve to be in the position he was in.
so he got fired for something that wont happen?
I think it's very harsh to say it's good someone has lost their livelihood and judging them as a clown based on one incident.
the man has lost his job, this could well devastate his career. I just can't see that as good.
I think the man was foolish and should have had more sense but I cannot see anything good about this.
No amount of yelling "Anti Consumer" is going to change how the industry works. Those examples that many dismissed as silly in regards to other industries are actually relavent. You need a gas station to get gas. You need electricity for your television. You need Windows to play most PC games. You can only watch newly released films at a movie theater, and then they decide you can watch it at a hotel, then they decide you can only purchase a digital version of such film, then they decide you can rent the film or get it on demand, or purchase it on Blu-Ray/DVD... then they take away most of those formats and you maybe get it on Netflix, or HBO. Eventually it may come to cable television, and on the rare occasion you are "Saving Private Ryan" and you get to see on the few "free" networks. Nobody bitches about that process which is even more crazy anti consumer then anything you see in the gaming industry. But it is so engrained that you deal with it, just as you will the future of gamin.
What are you talking about? The physical formats don't get "taken away" by anybody.then they decide you can rent the film or get it on demand, or purchase it on Blu-Ray/DVD... then they take away most of those formats and you maybe get it on Netflix, or HBO.
''Deal with it'' huh?
Compare it to whatever you want, it is a gaming forum here, so I think this is legitimate that people are upset about the future of their hobby. An all online future represents a supplementary restriction to the end users, while it may sounds okay to you, many don't want this to happen and I totally understand that and I do feel the same.
The industry changes, but if the people don't like how things are going they have all the rights in the world to express it. This is one of the many reasons of why I love GAF so much.
What are you talking about? The physical formats don't get "taken away" by anybody.
Could someone direct me to the Cliffy comments, please?
The new Sim City for example is built around it.
Oh, wow.
Again, where and when are the "physical formats" being taken away? Plus dedicated theatres rerelease films all the time; the theatre format is never truly extinguished.The actual in theater format goes away, as does the hotel room purchase. Plus often digital download versions of films are removed when they hit cable channels, and then maybe they come back after a time. Also you have Redbox exclusives or more commonly films that are not released to Redbox until the physical DVD/BR version of the film is a couple of months old. Do you boycott films or studios for engaging in such practices?
Again, where and when are the "physical formats" being taken away? Plus dedicated theatres rerelease films all the time; the theatre format is never truly extinguished.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned(maybe I didn't look real hard) is the possibility he may have breached his contract with Microsoft for bringing the company into disrepute. This is something I can relate to after signing a new contract a few months ago. I cannot talk about my company/projects on any social media unless given the express permission to do so by the CEO, otherwise I am in deep shit basically.
People have to watch what they say on social media, especially if you have your employer linked to your profile.
Just look at Disney and the Vault. Physical formats of films are sometimes put in the bank for decades.
Do you not see that you have to stretch the argument in order to make it palpable?
I would argue that the film industry grabs you by the balls from the very beginning, and then makes money on people while spreading from format to format.
Yes you can buy a physical copy of films after they have run you through the mill a few times. But fundamentally it is an "anti consumer approach..
Simple concepts such as displaying a film publically, even if publically only mean you and 6 other people in the same room, is a big portion of that FBA warning at the top of any physical film you obtain. Yet we do not bat an eye, because it is common.
Assuming you mean online only.. From what I understand: no, it's not built around that concept. They slapped the most minimal online DRM and called it a day.The new Sim City for example is built around it.
So what's your point then? We shouldn't complain about anti-consumer practices in video games because anti-consumer practices occur outside of video games? Personally, I go the cinema maybe three or four times a year, and very rarely rent or buy movies or TV series. Anti-consumer practices in movies/television just don't bother me as much because I'm nowhere near as invested in those industries as I am in the video game industry. Just because someone has a grievance with one thing doesn't mean they are obliged to have a grievance with every other entity that exhibits that same "thing". You're simply not proving anything by saying "look, it's happening here too and you're ok with it". I mean, we're on a video game forum talking about video games. You have no idea how interested people are in those other industries or whether or not they are ok with it happening in those industries either.
Some words for Cliffy, the shit you got right.
If you are going to a cabin in the woods, yeah it is probably better not to bring your console with you. While it would be nice if your console worked, your phone, your IPAD WiFi, and your laptop would also be pretty useless in such a situation. If you are going to a cabin in the woods, enjoy being away from all that bull shit.
Assuming you mean online only.. From what I understand: no, it's not built around that concept. They slapped the most minimal online DRM and called it a day.
I'm pretty sure the shoe is on the other foot here in terms of how much weight you are pressing on a clear outliers. Many of those titles supposedly to be locked in the "vault" are still readily available from physical stores or online. Second hand markets also exist too for any physical object, which in many ways can be pro-consumer. I'm not arguing that all practices you mention aren't anti-consumer but you're being quite hyperbolic and disingenuous by suggesting it is a common occurrence for physical formats to just be "taken away" from us, which is what I originally took issue with.Just look at Disney and the Vault. Physical formats of films are sometimes put in the bank for decades.
Do you not see that you have to stretch the argument in order to make it palpable?
I would argue that the film industry grabs you by the balls from the very beginning, and then makes money on people while spreading from format to format.
Yes you can buy a physical copy of films after they have run you through the mill a few times. But fundamentally it is an "anti consumer approach..
Simple concepts such as displaying a film publically, even if publically only mean you and 6 other people in the same room, is a big portion of that FBI warning at the top of any physical film you obtain. Yet we do not bat an eye, because it is common.
I don't get this argument at all. Shouldn't it be _my_ decision to do so? And why are those other devices 'pretty useless'? I can load up my iPad with tons of offline-stuff, like articles (Instapaper, Pocket etc.) to books, comics and obviously games. You're not automatically a digital media addict because you sitting in a chair at night in front of a nice fireplace, enjoying mentioned media.
I cannot pretend to know their original intent. Whether it was about money, or some sort of new concept that they found to be innovative I cannot tell you.
I just look at the information and I see a Sim City game that was not meant to be played singleplayer only, and the concepts behind what makes the game interesting involve a persistent online group
And I do have to admit, it's far more essential for a PORTABLE device to not require the internet at all times. Granted we do have a lot of hotspots and many phones can act as personal ones, but it's still a terrible idea for a portable device where it's not essential functionality, I should be able to play at least paid Angry Birds even if I can't watch Netflix (incidentally I DID have issues with Seasons due to not having an internet connection when I had downtime and wanted to play a bit of it.)Well recent rumors point to the 720 not actually being required to be always connect. And yes you IPAD may still work without any WiFi conection, but it becomes a shell of what it is capable of.
The point was that it is not a unique concept to the video game industry.
Yes you can complain all you want, but if you do it while ignoring historical trends then you are somewhat putting the VG industry to some higher standard then every other form of business.
Well recent rumors point to the 720 not actually being required to be always connect.
And yes you IPAD may still work without any WiFi conection, but it becomes a shell of what it is capable of.