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ITT: We post screens that showcase the visual charisma lost by modern Simpsons
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I was surprised with how good it was, too. It's also good seeing Conan (essentially) conducting interviews without a list of set questions. Felt sorry at times for the guys still working on the show (I think some had left, yes?) when they spoke of how hard it still is.
Probably the most fascinating bit to me was how Sam Simon (I think?) came up with the entire concept for Lisa's Substitute... even down to the note at the end of the episode.
Going to have to watch some more of those Serious Jibber Jabber chats, I'd wager they're all pretty good if the interviewees are happy enough to have over an hour of their time taken up in one hit.
I really enjoyed that part too. I think it was Jim Brooks though.
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Most interesting part for me is when Conan was waxing nostalgiac about all of the rules they had in place to not make the show too cartoony and how having Leonard Nimoy "beam up" at the end of Marge vs. the Monorail was considered a big deal only to think about where the show has progressed since then where they've literally thrown the rules out the window and have Sideshow Bob peeling his face off in The Bob Next Door or eyeballs popping out of sockets like in The Scorpion's Tale.
Not to mention we now have the Simpsons visiting an alien homeworld to close out this season.
Their anecdotes about James L. Brooks about his contributions to the emotional context of the series with Lisa's Substitute and I would imagine other episodes with a strong emotional core like Bart Gets an F and Bart vs. Thanksgiving had me thinking that his contribution has been sorely missed in modern era Simpsons. Outside of Holidays of Future Passed, O Brother Where Bart Thou? and a handful of scenes from the movie, that emotional core has been non-existent in the HD era. And I really miss it.
Not to mention we now have the Simpsons visiting an alien homeworld to close out this season.
Their anecdotes about James L. Brooks about his contributions to the emotional context of the series with Lisa's Substitute and I would imagine other episodes with a strong emotional core like Bart Gets an F and Bart vs. Thanksgiving had me thinking that his contribution has been sorely missed in modern era Simpsons. Outside of Holidays of Future Passed, O Brother Where Bart Thou? and a handful of scenes from the movie, that emotional core has been non-existent in the HD era. And I really miss it.
I had no idea, poor bastard
This was interesting when reading Simon's wiki:
So, pretty much what's been missing for the last 15 or so years.
Is that canon or just part of a Halloween episode or dream sequence or something?
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It's been pitched as some pseudo-canon idea since the writers started talking it up with the press. It is NOT an alternate universe Treehouse of Horror-style concept as of right now although whether it turns into a group dream sequence or something along those lines we won't know until it airs.
I suspect they'll play it straight until the very end of the episode.
"Wait a minute, those are yours, sir?"
"Yes, I am in Flavour Country."
"Both of them?"
"It's a big country."
"Ladies, I apologize. And you sir, are worse than Hitler."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7wNr5ExLYs
"Yes, I am in Flavour Country."
"Both of them?"
"It's a big country."
"Ladies, I apologize. And you sir, are worse than Hitler."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7wNr5ExLYs
"It's a big country" is one of my most favourite Homer deliveries. Such a drily delivered line.
lol definitely.
On a side note, I found a channel on Youtube where these classic episodes are slightly sped up and zoomed in.
I believe the "Homer vs The Eighteenth Amendment," episode is still amazingly relevant, especially with all the gun issues arising.
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sideshow bob roberts was scarily accurate. it was written and aired before the republicans were voted into office in 1994. nearly 20 years later, it's still relevant. same with the stampy episode and the democratic and republican conventions.
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I see this argument pop up a lot but it seems pretty flawed to me, like people are working backwards from the conclusion "modern simpsons is bad" and looking for reasons rather than noting that modern simpsons has no 'emotional core' and deducing the show is bad because of that.
To me it seems that every new simpsons episode I have bothered to watch has contained some forced emotional scene, so much so that I can only presume the writers have gone online, seen the same argument and thought that shoving syrup into the simpsons would magically make the show better. But they don't, because the heart was just a small part of classic simpsons overall greatness. In the end, the modern simpsons is poorly written and unfunny and no amount of emotion is going to change that.
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I'm not sure what the difference is between shilling episode links on YouTube and shilling other illegal streams. Seems like the same kettle of fish to me.
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. But I figured if it passed the YouTube litmus test, it would be okay. The episode itself is also altered. But I'll take down the link just be safe I guess. Hopefully a mod or someone could weigh in on this.
i didn't mean they don't try shooting for it. i meant there's no core for it to come from anymore. it's just painted on top. i think the first episode like this was homerpalooza, where out of nowhere homer finds a paper bart was writing about how homer was his hero. compare a similar scene to deep space homer where he writes 'hero' on the back of homer's head, which was more of bart's style and called back to an earlier gag where he'd made homer look like an idiot. and it's reinforced by the conversation at the dinner table about bart feeling less shame of his father. it's really just three small scenes that pull it together, but it works in deep space homer, and it doesn't in homerpalooza.
and i suppose there's an argument for how bart finds home cool, and didn't before, but the episode ends with bart and lisa calling both parents uncool. so that scene that was supposed to show some sort of niceness from bart has no point.
in bart the mother, which is an episode i find annoying, but still enjoy, there are some decent moments between marge and bart. i think the statement about how the lizards are monsters was way too on the nose, but marge's 'run for it' made up for the lack of subtlety.
he was only there for about two years, i think. he was on snl until the early 90s. can't believe the guy's almost 50 though.
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yes, once.
Scorpio: "Hey, look at my feet. You like those moccasins? Look in your closet; there's a pair for you. Don't like them? Then neither do I!" *throws out moccasins* "Get the hell outta here! Ever see a guy say good-bye to a shoe?"
Homer: "Yes, once."
This is one of my favorite subtle Simpsons jokes of all time. The "once" to which Homer is referring is that of 2 seconds ago.
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Homer: "Yes, once."
This is one of my favorite subtle Simpsons jokes of all time. The "once" to which Homer is referring is that of 2 seconds ago.
edit - ninja'd while looking up the exact quote
He's been around forever, I'm more surprised he isn't already.
His story about the coke in the office certainly made him out to be the insane person I always thought he was.
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Get the hell out of here thread!
You ever see a guy say goodbye to a thread before?
You ever see a guy say goodbye to a thread before?
Yes, once.
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Jesus, this is depressing. He made the Simpsons the amazing series it was in the '90s.
Does anyone have a link to the 60 Minutes segment they did on the Simpsons & interviewed Matt Groening & Sam Simon?
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Here you go.
(Hmm... this may only be the start of the segment and not the entirety of it. Hard to tell being located in Canada and on my work network.)
149 posts until we hit our cap, fellas.
That is sad, but did he actually have much of a role in the show? He was gone pretty early on, they just have to put his name in the credits because of his contract. He still makes a lot of money off the show too.
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He came up with most if not all of the the secondary characters, their designs & voices. The Simpsons from the Tracey Allman Show were crude 60 second comic strip segments & Sam added all their modern characterizations & traits along with hiring the writers & how the show would be constructed, written & the direction it would take.
All that was the backbone for the classic seasons.
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All he did in the early years was walk in the writers room from time to time & talk to them about his childhood for some inspirations.
He was was vocal in keeping the Simpsons grounded in reality & fought with Sam Simon when he felt it went overboard (like with Homer falling off a cliff from the Ambulance at the end). He always lost those battles.
He also made footnotes to the animators to added cracks & flaws to the environments & lobbied to get rid of exaggerated cartoony expressions/movements from the show.
One of the big reason Sam was forced out was that he got jealousy that Matt was taking credit for his hard work & got really salty about it.
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Mostly tried to keep ruining the best jokes they had and always felt the funniest things about the Simpsons were the worst. Basically he was a saboteur.
Also the ambulance gag in the Bart the Daredevil episode still makes me cry tears of laughter when I see it. It's like the best Wile E. Coyote joke ever made.
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