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[ShockingAlberto]

For what it's worth, I apologized to Rogers about my harsh, personal tone. Pointing out that she put out a lot of rumors that didn't pan out from 2011 is fair, but there was no reason for me to be insulting about it.

I don't know yet that I believe what she's saying now, but we'll surely find out before the end of the year. If she's right, add my name to those vouching for her credibility. If not, I will call her out, but will try to be less mean about it.

 

[EatChildren]

Have they? I mean they did say they were playable at E3 but I felt it was more like them emphasizing the fact that these are near future titles. I'm almost expecting a May Direct reveal.

They said playable, you're right, so yeah they could do a pre-E3 reveal. I don't think they will. But you never know.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Nintendo's EAD Tokyo groups' 3D Wii U specific Mario, SDG1's Wii U specific Mario Kart, and Nintendo+Namco's Wii U specific Super Smash Bros, will all be formally revealed at E3. Nintendo has confirmed this.

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD will be all accounts be there. As will A Link to the Past II. Bayonetta 2 is expected to be there, given Nintendo continually teases its development but refuses to show it. Yarn Yoshi should also be expected to appear, given they've already shown screenshots.

If we're lucky, X will be there too.

Do you think we will hear something about Retro's secret game?

 

[Sendou]

They said playable, you're right, so yeah they could do a pre-E3 reveal. I don't think they will. But you never know.

I'm not sure if Nintendo wants to go head-on with PS4 and Durango as far as new announcements go. Might be better to show at least some stuff when others aren't. But then it would of course mean a boring conference again.

 

[Carpe Diem]

Nintendo's EAD Tokyo groups' 3D Wii U specific Mario, SDG1's Wii U specific Mario Kart, and Nintendo+Namco's Wii U specific Super Smash Bros, will all be formally revealed at E3. Nintendo has confirmed this.

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD will be all accounts be there. As will A Link to the Past II. Bayonetta 2 is expected to be there, given Nintendo continually teases its development but refuses to show it. Yarn Yoshi should also be expected to appear, given they've already shown screenshots.

If we're lucky, X will be there too.

IF all these were to be at E3 2013 IN A DECENT playing form it would be a great E3 for Nintendo. However this is Nintendo we're talking about! Unpredictability defined. I expect to be completely overwhelmed or completely disappointed. No middle ground!

 

[dallow_bg]

I don't know yet that I believe what she's saying now, but we'll surely find out before the end of the year. If she's right, add my name to those vouching for her credibility. If not, I will call her out, but will try to be less mean about it.

What she predicted was pretty vague in the first place, unless she gave you more specifics and not just sources.

 

[Unicorn]

Cross play VC between WiiU and 3DS?

Please...

This plus platform specific features. Think of the photo sharing of pokemon snap on VC back on Wii. More modern features for these games.

 

[wsippel]

Nintendo's EAD Tokyo groups' 3D Wii U specific Mario, SDG1's Wii U specific Mario Kart, and Nintendo+Namco's Wii U specific Super Smash Bros, will all be formally revealed at E3. Nintendo has confirmed this.

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD will be all accounts be there. As will A Link to the Past II. Bayonetta 2 is expected to be there, given Nintendo continually teases its development but refuses to show it. Yarn Yoshi should also be expected to appear, given they've already shown screenshots.

If we're lucky, X will be there too.

Whatever Retro is working on should be a given as well, and Iwata said in January that they had several more co-productions in the pipeline that would be revealed in the coming months, so I expect so see at least one of those.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

SMT x Fire Emblem is probably iffy. That game can easily appear anywhere - Nintendo Directs, E3, even TGS despite Nintendo historically never going (considering this appears to be an Atlus production). Hell, maybe it even gets dropped in to Famitsu one week.

 

[Hero]

For what it's worth, I apologized to Rogers about my harsh, personal tone. Pointing out that she put out a lot of rumors that didn't pan out from 2011 is fair, but there was no reason for me to be insulting about it.

I don't know yet that I believe what she's saying now, but we'll surely find out before the end of the year. If she's right, add my name to those vouching for her credibility. If not, I will call her out, but will try to be less mean about it.

Alberto it takes a class act to do that. I'm not saying Rogers' history isn't without question but I think for someone who's doing it on their own she puts a lot out there. Of course at E3 we'll see if any of this comes to fruition but I'll give her the benefit of the doubt until then.

 

[EatChildren]

Do you think we will hear something about Retro's secret game?

Absolutely no idea. I'd like to hear about it. But I also wanted to hear about it last year. And the year before that.

It'll have been nearly three years since DKCR was finished, shipped, and available for purchase when E3 2013 rolls around. Retro has had some studio problems between then and now, but they really should be due for a reveal.

I'm not sure if Nintendo wants to go head-on with PS4 and Durango as far as new announcements go. Might be better to show at least some stuff when others aren't. But then it would of course mean a boring conference again.

I think they can, but focus on typical Nintendo stuff. We already know they exist, anyway. I've said it in other threads, but I don't expect much in the ways of truly new, big announcements, but instead reveals of already announced games.

IF all these were to be at E3 2013 IN A DECENT playing form it would be a great E3 for Nintendo. However this is Nintendo we're talking about! Unpredictability defined. I expect to be completely overwhelmed or completely disappointed. No middle ground!

Unless plans have changed all of those should show up. The Mario/Kart/Smash trio isn't a should, but a confirmed. Iwata explicitly said they'd be there, and both Mario and Kart will be playable.

I'd be surprised, and disappointed, if Bayonetta 2 didn't come out in full force. But as you said, this is Nintendo.

Whatever Retro is working on should be a given as well, and Iwata said in January that they had several more co-productions in the pipeline that would be revealed in the coming months, so I expect so see at least one of those.

This too is true.

SMT x Fire Emblem is probably iffy. That game can easily appear anywhere - Nintendo Directs, E3, even TGS despite Nintendo historically never going (considering this appears to be an Atlus production). Hell, maybe it even gets dropped in to Famitsu one week.

As is this. I don't put much value on SMT x Fire Emblem, since I feel it's a Japanese centric game, and much more likely to be revealed to the Japanese press first.

 

[Hoodbury]

As is this. I don't put much value on SMT x Fire Emblem, since I feel it's a Japanese centric game, and much more likely to be revealed to the Japanese press first.

Does the Japanese press/public not go to or follow e3?

 

[BY2K]

After Team Ninja and Other M, and Atlus and SMTxFE, those collaborations could be anything.

 

[Carpe Diem]

Then by all indications, this E3 will make or break the Wii U.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Now, we have to be prepared for the truly shitty parts of Nintendo's conference, showing us games that are scheduled to come out soon (and may even be out in other regions!) that they want to advertise.

I expect on-stage demonstrations of Game & Wario, Pikmin 3, and W101. Also talk about Mario & Luigi 3.

But I am okay with those last two except that I want them out now.

 

[Linkhero1]

Now, we have to be prepared for the truly shitty parts of Nintendo's conference, showing us games that are scheduled to come out soon (and may even be out in other regions!) that they want to advertise.

I expect on-stage demonstrations of Game & Wario, Pikmin 3, and W101. Also talk about Mario & Luigi 3.

But I am okay with those last two except that I want them out now.

Don't forget how they're possibly going to try to sell this console to families. I expect a Wii U ____ title.

 

[Jacksonlee]

so..... WIIU will finally have the online capacity and power to download my games to the hardware, not the account?

 

[plantedunicorn]

Now, we have to be prepared for the truly shitty parts of Nintendo's conference, showing us games that are scheduled to come out soon (and may even be out in other regions!) that they want to advertise.

I expect on-stage demonstrations of Game & Wario, Pikmin 3, and W101. Also talk about Mario & Luigi 3.

But I am okay with those last two except that I want them out now.

That's gonna be the shitty part. If RE6 for Wii U is true, I don't doubt Nintendo would show that on stage thinking that's a good idea like they did with Arkham City.

 

[BY2K]

Now, we have to be prepared for the truly shitty parts of Nintendo's conference, showing us games that are scheduled to come out soon (and may even be out in other regions!) that they want to advertise.

I expect on-stage demonstrations of Game & Wario, Pikmin 3, and W101. Also talk about Mario & Luigi 3.

But I am okay with those last two except that I want them out now.

Yup, it's gonna be THAT 15 minutes. If not more.

Wii Fit U, too.

 

[Instro]

Now, we have to be prepared for the truly shitty parts of Nintendo's conference, showing us games that are scheduled to come out soon (and may even be out in other regions!) that they want to advertise.

I expect on-stage demonstrations of Game & Wario, Pikmin 3, and W101. Also talk about Mario & Luigi 3.

But I am okay with those last two except that I want them out now.

You mean the part where they present Deus Ex as part of their lineup.

 

[Linkhero1]

You mean the part where they present Deus Ex as part of their lineup.

Sadly, it's probably going to happen. I really hope they don't waste time on 3rd party ports. Just focus mainly on first party and, if by chance there are any, third party exclusives.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Absolutely no idea. I'd like to hear about it. But I also wanted to hear about it last year. And the year before that.

It'll have been nearly three years since DKCR was finished, shipped, and available for purchase when E3 2013 rolls around. Retro has had some studio problems between then and now, but they really should be due for a reveal.

Alright thanks. It would be huge depressing news if Retro actually worked on Mario Kart 8.

 

[Zeroth]

Don't forget how they're possibly going to try to sell this console to families. I expect a Wii U ____ title.

Wii U Party. I can already imagine the commercial: "Will you party?"

 

[Shiggy]

It'll have been nearly three years since DKCR was finished, shipped, and available for purchase when E3 2013 rolls around. Retro has had some studio problems between then and now, but they really should be due for a reveal.

What are you referring to with this?

 

[Giant Panda]

I'm pretty sure that Emily Rogers promised to stop doing this sort of thing after the Kotaku interview fiasco. Her predictions also incredibly vague and don't require insight sources to make.

 

[Lupin the Third]

Now, we have to be prepared for the truly shitty parts of Nintendo's conference, showing us games that are scheduled to come out soon (and may even be out in other regions!) that they want to advertise.

I expect on-stage demonstrations of Game & Wario, Pikmin 3, and W101. Also talk about Mario & Luigi 3.

But I am okay with those last two except that I want them out now.

While Bowser's Inside Story was a great game, I think that presentation would confuse the audience....

 

[CDX]

Now, we have to be prepared for the truly shitty parts of Nintendo's conference, showing us games that are scheduled to come out soon (and may even be out in other regions!) that they want to advertise.

I expect on-stage demonstrations of Game & Wario, Pikmin 3, and W101. Also talk about Mario & Luigi 3.

But I am okay with those last two except that I want them out now.

I'm predicting Wii Fit U will take up a significant portion of Nintendo's E3 presentation.

 

[Ken Masters]

New Smash alone would make it a great E3 for Nintendo. Since that's already confirmed to be there, Nintendo will surely have a great E3.

sorry, but a fighting game isn't going to save a system, it's 2013

 

[EloquentM]

sorry, but a fighting game isn't going to save a system, it's 2013

Smash is a system seller.

 

[Linkhero1]

What are you referring to with this?

Not sure either. I know they went on a hiring spree since DKCR and have grown since, but I haven't heard of any problems within the studio.

 

[H_Prestige]

I remember when smash bros saved the gamecube. They were flying off shelves for years.

 

[Conor 419]

sorry, but a fighting game isn't going to save a system, it's 2013

This isn't an ordinary fighting game...

 

[Ken Masters]

Smash is a system seller.

with Nintendo's hardcore audience maybe, but they already have a Wii U

 

[Starphoenix]

sorry, but a fighting game isn't going to save a system, it's 2013

Gamecube says hi.

Plus Mario Kart.

 

[Conor 419]

with Nintendo's hardcore audience maybe, but they already have a Wii U

:|

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Smash is a system seller.

It really isn't...

Gamecube says hi.

Plus Mario Kart.

Yep, SSB set the GC on fire. It ended up helping the Gamecube sell less than the Xbox.

 

[-MB-]

It really isn't...

Maybe not for you, but for allot it is. ( to clarify, Its not for me either, Smash, like Pokemon is a Nintendo franchise I don't really care for.)

 

[Starphoenix]

Yep, SSB set the GC on fire. It ended up helping the Gamecube sell less than the Xbox.

Kept the system alive and made it profitable when it really shouldn't have been. That's all the Wii U needs right now. Most of the other third party garbage people keep crying about really isn't important right now.

 

[Phire Phox]

sorry, but a fighting game isn't going to save a system, it's 2013

Well New 3D Mario and Mario Kart will be there as well.

 

[Aaron Strife]

with Nintendo's hardcore audience maybe, but they already have a Wii U

Smash sold like 10 million each on Gamecube and Wii. There are less Wii Us than that.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Maybe not for you, but for allot it is. ( to clarify, Its not for me either, Smash, like Pokemon is a Nintendo franchise I don't really care for.)

Did Super Smash Brothers help the GC finish anywhere but third place?

 

[Phire Phox]

Did Super Smash Brothers help the GC finish anywhere but third place?

It probably would have sold much less without Melee.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Kept the system alive and made it profitable when it really shouldn't have been. That's all the Wii U needs right now. Most of the other third party garbage people keep crying about really isn't important right now.

Will it help? Yes. Will it be a game changer? No. Nevertheless, Super Smash in conjunction with a 3D mario, a Mario Kart, Wind Waker, a price cut will definitely help move hardware. But SSB by itself? No.

It probably would have sold much less without Melee.

Define much less. 1 million? 25k? You're making an argument without any real data to show it. How many people bought the Gamecube SPECIFICALLY for Super Smash Brothers. Is there any data to show how many Gamecubes were sold the week or month after SSB was released?

 

[EloquentM]

with Nintendo's hardcore audience maybe, but they already have a Wii U

Plenty of people bought a wii solely for brawl...

 

[Exterminieren]

Yep, SSB set the GC on fire. It ended up helping the Gamecube sell less than the Xbox.

I'd argue that Melee was the Gamecube's one and only proper system seller. We saw spikes in hardware around the globe when that hit shelves. It didn't hit like Wii Sports, but it undeniably sold hardware.

The problem was that it was just one title, not that it wasn't a system seller.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

I'd argue that Melee was the Gamecube's one and only proper system seller. We saw spikes in hardware around the globe when that hit shelves. It didn't hit like Wii Sports, but it undeniably sold hardware.

The problem was that it was just one title, not that it wasn't a system seller.

Do you by chance have any data to show how much hardware was sold around it's launch?

Plenty of people bought a wii solely for brawl...

How many?

 

[Starphoenix]

Will it help? Yes. Will it be a game changer? No. Nevertheless, Super Smash in conjunction with a 3D mario, a Mario Kart, Wind Waker, a price cut will definitely help move hardware. But SSB by itself? No.

There is no single "game changer." There won't be one game, first party of third, that will change the Wii U's fate. What they need is a quality line up, and that is coming. The 3DS has proven that and I'm confident the Wii U will follow suit.

 

[H_Prestige]

There is no single "game changer." There won't be one game, first party of third, that will change the Wii U's fate. What they need is a quality line up, and that is coming. The 3DS has proven that and I'm confident the Wii U will follow suit.

This "quality lineup" is the same lineup they had on the gamecube, which only resulted in 20 million consoles sold.

 

[Starphoenix]

This "quality lineup" is the same lineup they had on the gamecube, which only resulted in 20 million consoles sold.

And yet this same lineup was on the Wii yet sold a whole lot more, and will be on the 3DS.

 

[EloquentM]

Do you by chance have any data to show how much hardware was sold around it's launch?



How many?

Idk check npd for that month.