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Kotaku Rumor: Microsoft 6 months behind in game production for X720 [Pastebin = Ban]

abadguy

Banned
Hehe.

I will say that for MS owning 103 IP, they don't do shit with a lot of them. Give me a new Crimson Skies, Conker, Midtown Madness, Crackdown, Bloodwake, Fusion Frenzy, Blast Corps, Jet Set Gemini and Kameo you bastards.

They also own the Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon IP's don't they? Bastards indeed...

Oh and i like how the thread is now people trying to downplay all the new studios MS opened before they even put anything out. Hilarious.
 

Hindle

Banned
I was shocked to find out TLOU is releasing imminently. I've not been following the game. There is no marketing for that here in the UK. To me it shows Sony are hesitant to spend the $50m on marketing that's required to make a new IP a big success.

Rather that or they blew thier budget on Ascension.
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
I was shocked to find out TLOU is releasing imminently. I've not been following the game. There is no marketing for that here in the UK. To me it shows Sony are hesitant to spend the $50m on marketing that's required to make a new IP a big success.

Rather that or they blew thier budget on Ascension.
It's a month before it comes out. They usually kick up marketing a couple weeks beforehand. June's also a pretty dry month for releases outside of TLoU. It'll do fine.
 

StuBurns

Banned
I was shocked to find out TLOU is releasing imminently. I've not been following the game. There is no marketing for that here in the UK. To me it shows Sony are hesitant to spend the $50m on marketing that's required to make a new IP a big success.

Rather that or they blew thier budget on Ascension.
They're more than a month out, there's still plenty of time to market it.
 

Wynnebeck

Banned
Every publisher screwed us over in terms of new IP over the last few years. Aside from Dishonored there has been nothing as its just not viable at this stage. TLOU is Sonys first new IP since 2010 isn't it?

Every publisher is aiming for next gen with thier new software and IP at this moment as its there that gaming can start to climb again.

Edit. MS will reveal thier Winter line up on the May 21st. Who's to say there won't be new IP there?

You're making it seem like MS has not plans to introduce new IP for the current gen with the 360 even though them and Sony will each have about 77-80 mil customers a piece. That's still a large majority of people they can sell a new game to with the right marketing which is why it wouldn't be surprising if Sony makes GT6 for the PS3. MS can just as well do the same.
 
Lets get back on topic - how many of those studios do you think have the capability to overcome the (supposedly) 6 month behind schedule thing and ship the game at launch?

6 months behind applies to everyone? Excuse my language but this rumor is fucking ridiculous. Every developer is either behind or in front of schedule, most times behind by some amount.
 

artist

Banned
6 months behind applies to everyone? Excuse my language but this rumor is fucking ridiculous. Every developer is either behind or in front of schedule, most times behind by some amount.
Depends on when the devkits were shipped, their form, the target launch date communicated etc. Not saying this rumor is plausible, just trying to get the thread back on topic.

Remember thuway was hinting that the the earlier plan was launch in 2012? I dont remember the specific because there was too much noise from Miles in that thread.
 
I was shocked to find out TLOU is releasing imminently. I've not been following the game. There is no marketing for that here in the UK. To me it shows Sony are hesitant to spend the $50m on marketing that's required to make a new IP a big success.

Rather that or they blew thier budget on Ascension.

They're just starting the marketing. They just released the following trailer during the basketball playoffs on ESPN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCXFnb9Fr5o
 
Patcher has already spoken .. Kotaku = shit.

Actually, what Pachter said was this rumor = shit, and I have no choice but to concur. It's impossible to have anything resembling a sensible discussion about this (potential) issue since we have literally zero actual information. We can only guess, and that's pointless.
 
Depends on when the devkits were shipped, their form, the target launch date communicated etc. Not saying this rumor is plausible, just trying to get the thread back on topic.

Remember thuway was hinting that the the earlier plan was launch in 2012? I dont remember the specific because there was too much noise from Miles in that thread.

I don't believe that for a second. Halo 4 and Forza Horizon launching last year, along with the leaked MS documents from a few years back, all pointed at a 2013 release.

Unless by 'earlier plan' he means something they may have discussed back in 2007.
 
I don't believe that for a second. Halo 4 and Forza Horizon launching last year, along with the leaked MS documents from a few years back, all pointed at a 2013 release.

Unless by 'earlier plan' he means something they may have discussed back in 2007.

Yup, I never ever believed that and I still don't. It makes no sense whatsoever.
 

Klocker

Member
This thread should be shut down or renamed. Holy shit, Sony fans. lol.

yea they only keep posting in it to keep the title on page 1 because they think it means something negative.

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Alx

Member
What he said was that it was true of every video game company.

Well, it's true indeed... what were the words of that Naughty Dogs designer turned teacher again ? "Don't think of your project as finished, but as ready to be abandoned".
 
What he said was that it was true of every video game company.

Things he said:

- The rumor about the next Xbox forcing you to always be online is true
- I'm a dumbshit (me, not him)
- Kotaku are fucking idiots, as is anyone that clicks on links to their site
- Every company in the business is always late
 

netBuff

Member
Pachter said the rumour was shit, which is a disaster for Microsoft because it means it is true.


Again: Pachter implied that he thinks the rumour is true, just that every company is "behind schedule" this close before a new console launch.

(well, beaten)

I was shocked to find out TLOU is releasing imminently. I've not been following the game. There is no marketing for that here in the UK. To me it shows Sony are hesitant to spend the $50m on marketing that's required to make a new IP a big success.

Rather that or they blew thier budget on Ascension.

It's still a month out, not "releasing imminently" - and marketing seems to ramp up. Public advertisement gets better results around launch time, spending marketing money now when customers aren't able to buy the game yet would be a waste.
 

Klocker

Member
Again: Pachter implied that he thinks the rumour is true, just that every company is "behind schedule" this close before a new console launch.

(well, beaten)

therefore it is a rumor from their ass as we may as well have a thread that says "Sony behind schedule" as by that logic that is also true.
 

netBuff

Member
therefore it is a rumor from their ass as we may as well have a thread that says "Sony behind schedule" as by that logic that is also true.

No, because that was Pachter's opinion on this specific rumour, not his statement on what he knows.

Again: Multiple sources have corroborated that Microsoft is supposedly behind schedule - but that doesn't mean the end, there's still quite a bit of time left for them to get things sorted out for launch. Whether Pachter actually think this rumour is true or not doesn't matter, and everyone else can form their own opinion.
 

Klocker

Member
No, because that was Pachter's opinion on this specific rumour, not his statement on what he knows.

Again: Multiple sources have corroborated that Microsoft is supposedly behind schedule - but that doesn't mean the end, there's still quite a bit of time left for them to get things sorted out for launch. Whether Pachter actually think this rumour is true or not doesn't matter, and everyone else can form their own opinion.

listen to it again...

he's saying it's not even a rumor it's just a FACT of the industry for all companies. any comment trying to suggest it as a "rumor" that merits attention (as some in this thread are claiming) is stupid.

that it was just for fanboy clicks.
 
The only issue with this statement is that if Microsoft funded the game, and the creators didn't buy back rights to the franchise, the games are 1st-party even if the studios that made them aren't.

Gears Judgment = Microsoft-funded 1st-party IP made by 3rd-party studio

Gears is a third party IP. Epic owns it. Microsoft has done a good job of convincing Epic to keep it exclusive though.
 
They also own the Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon IP's don't they? Bastards indeed...

Oh and i like how the thread is now people trying to downplay all the new studios MS opened before they even put anything out. Hilarious.


They own the Lost Odyssey IP?

Damn, do something with it you idiots, one of the best J-RPG this Gen.
 
Psh, just a bunch of pretentious ducks. It's hair.



All I ever see is Win 8 Win 8 Win 8 Win 8 Win 8 Win 8. Unless you're talking about NHL playoffs. I'm not watching those.

Bacon you changed your avi! Hell no I'm not talking about the NHL haha. I'm seeing tons of Win8 but I saw TLOU at least twice during the OKC game.
 
Bacon you changed your avi! Hell no I'm not talking about the NHL haha. I'm seeing tons of Win8 but I saw TLOU at least twice during the OKC game.

I haven't watched a game this weekend. When Chuckles isn't doing halftime and post-game commentary I tune out. I'll look for the ads during the Golden State game. Good series.
 
Gears is a third party IP. Epic owns it. Microsoft has done a good job of convincing Epic to keep it exclusive though.

Microsoft funded Gears, Gears 2, Gears 3, and Gears Judgment.

That means Microsoft has control over what happens for those games.

Yeah, Epic could make more Gears games independently in the future, but they don't have any authority over whether Gears 1, 2, 3, Judgment come to PS3. That's all on Microsoft.

That's what I mean by "1st-party IP."
 

netBuff

Member
listen to it again...

he's saying it's not even a rumor it's just a FACT of the industry for all companies. any comment trying to suggest it as a "rumor" that merits attention (as some in this thread are claiming) is stupid.

that it was just for fanboy clicks.

Him claiming the whole industry to be affected by delays in a general sense doesn't let you extrapolate specific statements from what he said: The actual fact is that we have multiple sources conforming the situation at Microsoft, Pachter just waxing about the industry at large doesn't have the same status.

And yes, all news stories are done for clicks.
 

StuBurns

Banned
Microsoft funded Gears, Gears 2, Gears 3, and Gears Judgment.

That means Microsoft has control over what happens for those games.

Yeah, Epic could make more Gears games independently in the future, but they don't have any authority over whether Gears 1, 2, 3, Judgment come to PS3. That's all on Microsoft.

That's what I mean by "1st-party IP."
How do you know that? Wouldn't you have said the exact same thing about Mass Effect 1?
 

StuBurns

Banned
When EA purchased BioWare, they also purchased all rights to all of the Mass Effect games from Microsoft.
And how do you know that? If that's the case, why was Mass Effect 1 still exclusive until last year?

Be honest, you have no idea, and no way to know the various details of any specific contracts between Microsoft and anyone else.
 
Him claiming the whole industry to be affected by delays in a general sense doesn't let you extrapolate specific statements from what he said: The actual fact is that we have multiple sources conforming the situation at Microsoft, Pachter just waxing about the industry at large doesn't have the same status.

And yes, all news stories are done for clicks.
Who are these multiple sources if I may ask?
 
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