Liberty4all
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student loan payments, utilities, mobile, internet, mortgage/rent, car payment, insurance (house, auto, life) groceries, credit car debt, clothes, entertainment ... It adds up man no matter what you make, I totally understand.
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Time magazine Millennials: The Me Me Me Generation
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student loan payments, utilities, mobile, internet, mortgage/rent, car payment, insurance (house, auto, life) groceries, credit car debt, clothes, entertainment ... It adds up man no matter what you make, I totally understand.
CoffeeJanitor
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Exactly.
And casually racist. My parents and people their age still make me cringe sometimes
Davey Cakes
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Yeah. My parents aren't bad people but they can be very judgmental, racist, and in my dad's case, sexist.
Say what you want about Millenials, especially the douchebag part of our generation. At least we're growing up in a world where the concepts of tolerance and equality are less alien than ever.
Nah old people are just jealous that young generation have more possibilities and easier life that they had at their age.
When they lived they didn't even had proper TV and if they wanted to phone someone they payed more than dolla for minute.
I would be pretty much pissed too if my kids would have ferrari in garage and worked on that a one life less (not that i have one
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IMO each new generation of people are better. Just 50 years ago hate toward race was common. Their kids generation will probably learn at school that there were people xx years ago that hated each other because they were different.
When they lived they didn't even had proper TV and if they wanted to phone someone they payed more than dolla for minute.
I would be pretty much pissed too if my kids would have ferrari in garage and worked on that a one life less (not that i have one
).IMO each new generation of people are better. Just 50 years ago hate toward race was common. Their kids generation will probably learn at school that there were people xx years ago that hated each other because they were different.
Evolution_1ne
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That about sums it up perfectly
Edit: Sorry, didn't want to make the impression I made it, I just found it somewhere else.
I understand why to some extent, but I hate that. A company contacted me through linkedin (unprompted) to do what I do now but basically at a managerial level (combined with what I do now, plus two other functions). It was a clear step up from what I was doing that would have given me a lot of prestige and visibility.
So when they asked me what I wanted my salary to be, I asked for 10% above the appropriate amount under the assumption they would counter with the appropriate amount (I have access to a database that tells me what the "appropriate" amount was). Their counter-offer, however, was "Why don't you make another offer, but lower". After enough dialogue with them, I found out they were looking to pay someone ~$7k below the market salary, figuring I'd undervalue myself because I was young; the guy who would have been my manager was insulted I didn't.
Fuck off, guy.
computers putin'
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I hate these age specific generalizations, but younger people are pretty narcissistic because Facebook and the like is feeding into it.
Devolution
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People who think Millennials are the worst don't know enough Baby Boomers.
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Freezie KO
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Damn you selfish Millenials. Why'd you vote for that selfish socialist Obama? You should've voted for an egalitarian like Ronald Reagan. Unless we're talking about The Greatest Generation who could've even be arsed to let black people into their schools.
I don't want that responsibility, yo.
Don't forget Thoreau's words, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Old people are always stupid".
Yes I'm always amazed they don't see the irony of calling the young entitled as they sit in their thrones of Entitlements and refuse to retire.
Yes I'm always amazed they don't see the irony of calling the young entitled as they sit in their thrones of Entitlements and refuse to retire.
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the_zombie_luke
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The wealth redistribution to the older Americans is sickening and documented. The boomers moan about working harder, but why would we do that when they would just get more money? And then when Occupy Wall Street. started, they had the nerve to proclaim the Occupiers didn't want to work. I'm so sick of the AARP crowd. I live in a state with pretty low unemployment, I imagine it must be pretty rough in most of the country. I really have no idea what we can do. I just don't see how it can continue like this without a nasty correction.
See You Next Wednesday
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Yup, I consider people born in the '90s to be millennials.
CornBurrito
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You seem to be under the assumption that those who live with their parents don't contribute. Some probably do not, I'm sure. But living with family does not necessitate being a mooch.
Phew, a 1979'er here.
I could technically being included into the millenial generation (born in 1983), and that being said, I kinda agree with the article. Millenials got the same selfish attitude as baby boomers, only main difference being that we are reaping the downfall of their economic model.
Also, one's gotta love how for how much weight gaf tends to put on scientific evidence on its arguments (rightly so), when said scientific facts screws with our world's visión they tend to be prolly ignored. While there are numbers in the article which can be easily attributed to other external factors such as this hugeass economic depression, which kind of justification do we have for the ones regarding the higher narcissism, then again? I don't think that it is a minor issue, considering that a big part of the personal and social problems have to do with the ego.
Also, one's gotta love how for how much weight gaf tends to put on scientific evidence on its arguments (rightly so), when said scientific facts screws with our world's visión they tend to be prolly ignored. While there are numbers in the article which can be easily attributed to other external factors such as this hugeass economic depression, which kind of justification do we have for the ones regarding the higher narcissism, then again? I don't think that it is a minor issue, considering that a big part of the personal and social problems have to do with the ego.
Not just that but how can it be a burden for parents to have their kids home? Not all parents want their kids out once they are 18.
H.Protagonist
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As I said to SRG01, that hasn't been my experience. Obviously some do help out, but even so, the idea of living with one's parents and not making your own way is something I just find personally weird. I don't think everyone who is living at home still is a mooch, but I do feel like they're not experiencing some pretty important life lessons. Who's to say which is better? I don't know. I just find it weird to want to stay at home. Forever childhood.
captmorgan
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Question, has anybody else here follow the path of dropping out of high school and working instead?
I dropped out of High school in grade 11, and honestly life has been a cake walk. I picked up a trade well (3 trades) and at this point in my life I`m fairly confident that I could go to almost any country and find work (barring any language barriers). I also moved out at 16.
I dropped out of High school in grade 11, and honestly life has been a cake walk. I picked up a trade well (3 trades) and at this point in my life I`m fairly confident that I could go to almost any country and find work (barring any language barriers). I also moved out at 16.
Vicetrailia
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Meh, who even cares? I for one would have loved for a second to live safely and securely under my parents until I was able to man up and move out. Makes life way easier.
LoserMakesGood
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Yep, worst of both worlds. Middle child between two very different ideals and lifestyles and more or less left to fend for ourselves.
LoserMakesGood
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While I didn't drop out of highschool I wish I could go back and stop myself from going to a university. Lifetime of debt, only to be stuck at the same type of shitty jobs I could have got right out of highschool.
It's hard to come to grips with the fact that I will never retire all because I had the audacity to try to better myself.
H.Protagonist
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^I've seen this route work out REALLY well for those I know who took it. I won't say going to college is a waste (some of the best years of my life), but those who entered a trade early are the ones I see really raking in the bucks, and they don't have the same crushing debt as many college grads do.
I guess I just like doing things the hard way.
But, what works for one doesn't mean it works for another. Believe me, I understand that. If people are happy and satisfied, then that's all that really matters. *shrug*I sort of agree. I'm of course not talking in absolutes but I see alot more
1) I do what I want and its America, YOU deal with it
2) My kids do what they want and i'm busy on the phone, YOU deal with it
3) In my new jobs training class I was astounded by the amount of people that would keep leaving the room to check their cell phones. You're not that damn important.
4) Fuck the old people, stop taking my paycheck money for Social Security and Medicare I can manage my money better then the government...contribute to 401k? screw that I need my money to party this weekend.
5) Twitter/Facebook - LOOK AT ME! I can't count how many pictures my nephew has been posting of himself working out this last couple weeks.
1) I do what I want and its America, YOU deal with it
2) My kids do what they want and i'm busy on the phone, YOU deal with it
3) In my new jobs training class I was astounded by the amount of people that would keep leaving the room to check their cell phones. You're not that damn important.
4) Fuck the old people, stop taking my paycheck money for Social Security and Medicare I can manage my money better then the government...contribute to 401k? screw that I need my money to party this weekend.
5) Twitter/Facebook - LOOK AT ME! I can't count how many pictures my nephew has been posting of himself working out this last couple weeks.
CornBurrito
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Again, in other countries I thought staying with the family was considered normal. Humans aren't birds either from an evolutionary standpoint either. Having to leave the nest as a mark of adulthood is cultural.
Hasn't this always been an aspect of American culture? And it has been so dearly loved by modern Conservatives and other members of the right.
College is largely a "scam" as far as most people end up doing work unrelated to their degree, but need the degree to look competitive. And high school education in the US is awful. I recall reading an article that claimed if you weren't planning on going to college you might as well drop out of high school because there's almost no pay difference between those with and without a high school diploma.
zero shift
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The wealth redistribution to the older Americans is sickening and documented. The boomers moan about working harder, but why would we do that when they would just get more money? And then when Occupy Wall Street. started, they had the nerve to proclaim the Occupiers didn't want to work. I'm so sick of the AARP crowd. I live in a state with pretty low unemployment, I imagine it must be pretty rough in most of the country. I really have no idea what we can do. I just don't see how it can continue like this without a nasty correction.
The Boomers are amazing.
When they were in their 20s they wanted America to become Socialist or even Communist because they wanted as much money as possible with little work. When they were in their 40s they wanted to go neoconservative so they could pay as little taxes as possible and buy fancy toys. Now that they are in their 60s the want to have the government spend everything on them with while leaving scraps for everyone else. Fuck them.
captmorgan
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ummm...isnt that the kinda the path the latest generation wants?
H.Protagonist
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But we're discussing an article specific to the US and the reaction stemming from that. Obviously the cultural norm is different in other countries.
Trent Strong
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All these pissed off posts from people in their 20s is hilarious.
zero shift
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There are a fair bit of boomers in this thread as well.
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CornBurrito
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If you want to play this game, then who can speak about this issue without bias?
I really think this is what anyone wants for the most part. It is rare that an individual would take the path of most resistance to get what they want. Nearly everyone looks for the path of least resistance.
Origami Superman
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You mean generation X? I'd be surprised if there were alot of boomers.
Millennials automatically win over previous generations by being less racist, sexist and homophobic.
It's a uniquely American hang-up. It's weird.
It's a uniquely American hang-up. It's weird.
CornBurrito
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I guess it is American "rugged individualism" at work. Accepting any help at all makes others perceive you as weak, pathetic, or over-entitled.
Liberty4all
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The term the two of you are looking for is "Cold Y"
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mardus/Cold_Y_Generation
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cold Y Generation
http://wikibin.org/articles/cold-generation-y.html
I was born in 76 and relate to this very well.
its a sub generation (similar to generation Jones that the boomers had)
Davey Cakes
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To be honest I REALLY wish I took the "no college" route and went into a trade early.
Obviously, hindsight is 20/20. At the time I was naive and I thought I wanted to live the college life and gain a higher education. My parents also had no objections, and if anything wanted to see me go to college. So, I did, and I also chose the second most expensive one that I got into because I wanted to go to a higher quality college with a better name.
If I knew how my perspective would change over the next six years or so, I would have stopped myself. We have to take context into consideration though; ever since I got out of high school I had the idea implanted in my head that you need a degree to succeed. It's actually true in the sense that certain jobs require degrees now, even ones that aren't related to education at all. However, I at least wish I explored the alternatives first.
The idea of learning a skill, working full time, and making money right out of high school makes me drool. Education or not, starting early without a lick of debt would have been nice (if it actually worked out, anyway).
Trent Strong
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I doubt there are any boomers. Probably a lot of gen x'ers.
Because you're not. Millennials were born in 1982 on
Can Crusher
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You gotta make em work faster to pay those debts! let's shame them into it!
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