Air Zombie Meat
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I think they will as well. If they do this forum is going to explode.
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Geoff Keighley: PS4 Used Game DRM (EDIT: but now apparently on hold)
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Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Is this another thing where someone remembers the tech Sony patented, chinese whispers that into "I heard some stuff" and then filters that all back out of their anus as the concerned comments?
I fucking hope so. Who is reading the internet this week and saying "hmmm, seems like consumers are super ready to get fucked!!"
I fucking hope so. Who is reading the internet this week and saying "hmmm, seems like consumers are super ready to get fucked!!"
Four_Chamber
Member
It's obvious that Sony would do this. The used game restrictions are a dream come true for the big publishers so it would only make sense that Sony do this to be on an equal playing field with Microsoft. Also, love seeing the tin-foil hats coming out saying the sources are Microsoft.
Again, I don't see a big deal with this and it certainly won't push me to a PC only future.
Again, I don't see a big deal with this and it certainly won't push me to a PC only future.
It's looking as though this will be the case for me as well....
Incredibly disappointed.
Dead Prince
Banned
Expecting the Wii u summer update to magically include used games DRM too
Audioboxer
Member
This one is a lot more concrete
http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/03/20/michael-denny/
Red Chocobo
Banned
They already said it was up to the publisher. So I expect EA titles to have it.
H_Prestige
Banned
And if they do, publishers can DRM lock them all they want on that as well. Nintendo will not say no to any publisher.
Good Lord people, if you can't understand the difference between this and a PC, you're not thinking.
PC gives you great sales, unlimited backwards compatibility, and encourages competition with prices. With a used game sales floor, Tomb Raider will never be $14, Last Remnant will never be $2.49, and so on.
Of course, this is if the rumors are true. They're still rumors.
PC gives you great sales, unlimited backwards compatibility, and encourages competition with prices. With a used game sales floor, Tomb Raider will never be $14, Last Remnant will never be $2.49, and so on.
Of course, this is if the rumors are true. They're still rumors.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
I have a feeling this is the case. Either this or some gross interpretation of the online pass system already present this generation.
That said, if it does exist in the same manner as Microsofts, im done. Ill double down on current gen and retro. Not going to pay into this bullshit.
We can take it a step further and say I can go totally offline on Xbone too, just (presumably) for 23 hours out of a day.
Yup, used market in Japan is huge, not just games.
There is no way that Sony will not offer it and EA will take it (this being the reason that EA got rid of the online pass and the Wii U). Otherwise Sony will be in trouble with EA and Activision.
Though I hope Sony makes it optional and they don't use it for Sony published games. And publishers like XSeed and NISA as well (I hope Atlus does as well, but seeing P4Arena I am doubtful).
Though I hope Sony makes it optional and they don't use it for Sony published games. And publishers like XSeed and NISA as well (I hope Atlus does as well, but seeing P4Arena I am doubtful).
BennBeckman
Banned
A console with no bc and used game sounds terible to me, particularly when the exclusives limeup is looking fairly weak
I'll wait for e3 before i decide one way or the other
I'll wait for e3 before i decide one way or the other
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
If true it's a huge missed opportunity for Sony. With the right pricing and more consumer friendly policies they'd be positioned as the defacto choice for "next gen" gamers. If they go down a more restrictive path similar to Microsoft it'll be good news for Nintendo, with the Wii U suddenly looking more attractive by the minute in spite of the issues that have plagued it so far. This year's E3 is going to be very instructive. It's hard to tell which way the wind will blow once everything is officially unveiled.
Well, obviously there's no way to tell for sure, but it sure seems like MS started it.
la flama blanca
Banned
I'd pretty much just stick to PC if Sony did this shit.
HigherLevel
Member
Based on what they've said I doubt this, at worst it will probably just be online passes again.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Gamers in Japan must be worried about all these rumors. I expected the console market to get better there this generation, not killed off entirely. I guess handhelds will have an even greater dominance there now.
So those sources that Dorito Pope mentioned are talking out of their asses?
BlazingDarkness
Member
This sucks, but as long as there's no online-drm I will get over it. Also there'd best be no high fee for it.
iOS is closed but prices are EXTREMELY competitive (moreso than Steam) because publishers are free to adjust price on the fly and there's no influence from physical stores threatening to take away retail shelf space.
Leaving it up to 3rd parties would allow Sony to preserve their own image.
Iced_Eagle
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So what if both PSN and XBL have more Steam like sales next-gen?
Both have experimented with it this gen with great success. There was an XBL Ultimate sale earlier this year that had a huge response on Gaf. They had some games/DLC equal to or cheaper than it was on Steam even. Sony also has permanent discounts on a lot of their content for PS+ subscribers (on top of offering free games monthly, better than what Steam offers).
I can see both Sony and MS offering permanent discounts to subscribers of their systems, as well as providing more regular sales and other promotions. If they think it will translate into more money, and at the same time make customers happy because they feel they are getting great value for their money, then why would they not do it?
I'm sure some, especially the smaller publishers or developers like CD Projekt, will opt out of this system. However, whether that will translate to a noticeable increase in sales or not remains to be seen. I would lean towards "no". At the end of the day, if the game is awesome, people will pay good money for it. If this was the case then GOG would be the premiere digital store on PC and not Steam, which has DRM.
Personally the used game situation was the least of my issues with the Xbone, the always online DRM, and the damn camera are worse in my opinion, so this still is not as bad as the Xbone. Still if Sony pulls this shit to ill finally have my reason to build a solid PC and be done with both of them. Its sad because i love Sonys games, but if they are going to pull this shit and try to strip consumers of their rights then they can burn too.
That is just blatantly wrong. The PC's open/laissez faire system invites the kind of competition that you wont see with pricing structures in the console market. The same tactics were not used on the PC market, that is just wrong. Yes, there are publishers who have used systems that make the 2nd hand market impossible, but for 1 the PC market never had a real 2nd hand market to begin with, so market value was handled completely different by the market. When Steam came around with their DD the PC market was in a fairly large glut, with very little game growth. The competition that Steam introduced with other DD companies following suit creates its own kind of free market value adjustment.
Sony and MS systems are closed and they will not be experiencing the same market pressures to adjust value to their games. You will be literally at the mercy of Sony and Microsoft.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Don't go down this road Sony. I had faith in you man.
Audioboxer
Member
Well "without an internet connection at all" is a lot more precise than "you can play offline".
Nothing1016
Member
This would be a terrible move by Sony for reasons people have already stated.
What I'm wondering is if these DRM moves by Sony and Microsoft, have directly led to the minuscule third party support for the WiiU (along with the weaker hardware of course). I highly doubt Nintendo would budge, on such an important feature, from any of the big publishers leading to bad relations even further. Hmmm just speculation by my part.
What I'm wondering is if these DRM moves by Sony and Microsoft, have directly led to the minuscule third party support for the WiiU (along with the weaker hardware of course). I highly doubt Nintendo would budge, on such an important feature, from any of the big publishers leading to bad relations even further. Hmmm just speculation by my part.
I love how most of the replies in this thread are acting like this is official word from Sony.
I'm waiting for an official announcement. This has been PR HELL for MS ever since word got out. I wouldn't be surprised if they scrapped their plans.
I believe Sony said if they did this it would left to the publisher just like region locking.
Wish an insider would at least drop a hint on this. Shit has gotten way off base since the MS fiasco.
With this being said. WE should all tweet Yoshida and tell him not to do this.
I'm waiting for an official announcement. This has been PR HELL for MS ever since word got out. I wouldn't be surprised if they scrapped their plans.
I believe Sony said if they did this it would left to the publisher just like region locking.
Wish an insider would at least drop a hint on this. Shit has gotten way off base since the MS fiasco.
With this being said. WE should all tweet Yoshida and tell him not to do this.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
They'll do it. they'll try soften the blow with Gaikai bc streaming and PS+.
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