Wickerbasket
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So edgy.
So edgy.
PC it is.
Edit: Since people are just quoting this and not responding to my rebuttal:
I use GameFly, but since no console/system will support this if the rumors are true, I might as well go to the system that has the cheapest games, competition, no used sales price floor, and unlimited BC. Oh, and I already have a PC, so it's cheaper for me to upgrade than buy a new console.
I feel like a broken record.
Stop quoting this with "hurrrr when could you play used games on pc"
You really think that anti-used game policies will be beneficial for this industry?
Some of this at least really is kind of bullshit, how many mobile games require constantly dialing home?Am I the only one who couldn't care less about these drm policies? It seems mostly normal in a progressively digital landscape. I've been gaming on Steam for the past 4 years and I can't trade any of those games in.
You can IF they don't need activation, but most of the time they could just be copied, or installed and the disc given to someone else. And thus why we ended up with CD keys and ultimately Steam.You cant play used games on the PC.
Deserves a new thread, stickied at the top of the forum.
Hmm didn't read everything but Sony was going to do what ms are doing but the outcry is making them have second thoughts?
Why would he choose console gaming though, if it has all the negatives of PC gaming and none of the advantages?You cant play used games on the PC.
Yes. The ps4 will either have some kind of DRM for retail games or it will be left up to publishers.
Keep it up everyone! Woo!
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Why can't these weasels just come out and say it isn't, the fact that they are obviously considering it (else they'd go hur look at those anti consumer microsofts, we would never do that we love you guys) is enough to not make me want to support them.
They aren't benign, they would fuck us if they could, the intent is fully there.
When some perv tries to lure your child but backs off because he notices people watching , would you let him babysit anyway?
Same thing if you find out your local garage tried to once over you on car repairs, why the fuck would you ever go there again.
You really think that anti-used game policies will be beneficial for this industry?
This means one way or another it will have some kind of DRM. Major publishers will just do what they do on xbox. 95% of games will be locked.
MS' entire console is built around this feature.
Just like 95% of games are locked on the ps3 and wiiU right?
Yeah, sure.anyone who thinks Ubisoft and EA is going to allow the PS4 to be without some sort of DRM like XB1 has is not being realistic. Sony's just trying to figure out how to break it to you all lolol
Are you being serious?How can I be in a better position to judge that than the publishers who take risks every day in order to bring joy to our lives?
That's why I'm hoping Sony really did only have an optional system in place and now are considering scrapping that too, as that'd give a safety net if they flip their minds back ground.I thought Sony had said DRM was up to the publishers earlier? They never said no DRM, of course their will be. PS3 has DRM, how do you think it's locked (despite FW hacks) so only retail purchase run. Or why stupid online pass codes showed up.
I have my doubts used game sales hurt the game market. My bet is more people buy questionable titles they might not be interested in because they aren't stuck holding a $60 title they aren't really interested in.
Because gaming journalism.Why hasn't anyone in the press directly asked Sony about this in the wake of all of this MS nonsense?
anyone who thinks Ubisoft and EA is going to allow the PS4 to be without some sort of DRM like XB1 has is not being realistic. Sony's just trying to figure out how to break it to you all lolol
This puts a lot of pressure on MS, if true. A lot of pressure
MS can either continue down the current path or drop the anti used DRM/24hr check to offset any further backlash and be competitive with the PS4.
Who else is there to tweet at? I doubt @Playstation would help any.
Why hasn't anyone in the press directly asked Sony about this in the wake of all of this MS nonsense?
Sony said it is the decision of the publishers. But perhaps they will rethink that. If the games that are blocked won't sell and the games that can be sold are doing fine, publishers could change their mind. If there is no piracy possible on PS4, there is not really a need for Steam-like DRM.
Furthermore the PS4 has to be succesful, if the Xbox One will be a massive flop, Microsoft will be still doing fine as a company. They don't need gaming to be profitable.
That's why I'm hoping Sony really did only have an optional system in place and now are considering scrapping that too, as that'd give a safety net if they flip their minds back ground.
And it's possible that system (opt-in anti used) COULD have the advantage that publishers would just work out a deal with GameStop and threaten to take advantage if they don't share the profits, versus it being there whether we like it or not. In that event then it's possible everyone ends up happy: GameStop shares the profit with publishers so they don't use it, no actual DRM system is put in so everyone can still play offline or when the system's long since been replaced, and everyone ends up happy more or less (though I guess GameStop will be wishing for more of their profit back, but something's better than nothing.)
Even if they have it, PS4 has so much more going for it compared to the Xbox One I think the reaction would be significantly dampened because people are already firmly on the Sony train for all the other pro-consumer stuff it has going for it.
How can I be in a better position to judge that than the publishers who take risks every day in order to bring joy to our lives?
Who else is there to tweet at? I doubt @Playstation would help any.
If they have changed their minds, and I think it's safe to say they're thinking about it, the message is 1000% clear.
Don't ever let anyone tell you to not complain about eroding consumer rights. Don't ever let anyone tell you to wait until E3 before making a final judgment.
BE VOCAL NOW! It clearly works much better than being silent.
Because gaming journalism.
If Sony is doing the always online DRM as MS, I'm out. There are so many different devices that play games today, that I can skip this whole next gen if I want to.
This.Yep. Again, a purchase from me is pretty much locked in if Sony sticks to their decision this week.
I think the key is making the used game system/policy OPTIONAL for devs to implement. This way at least consumers have a choice.
This way EA is happy and gamers are happy to buy games from another developer.
As opposed the XBO where every game has this system.
How can I be in a better position to judge that than the publishers who take risks every day in order to bring joy to our lives?
It is literally as easy as just making the license transfer free. Nothing technical is standing in the way of MS doing the right thing here.
The big difference here is that publishers (as a whole) actually care way less about region-locking than preventing used sales.
If they have changed their minds, and I think it's safe to say they're thinking about it, the message is 1000% clear.
Don't ever let anyone tell you to not complain about eroding consumer rights. Don't ever let anyone tell you to wait until E3 before making a final judgment.
BE VOCAL NOW! It clearly works much better than being silent.
Then never buy anything. Every company out there wants to bend you over and leave you raw. Some do it, some try to do it, some think about doing it and don't. But they ALL want to.