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#PS4NoDRM #XboxOneNoDRM || Now do you "Believe?"

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RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
bishoptl said:
You guys can do your own research as far as who's on Twitter, but you should be reaching out to guys like Larry Probst, Eric Hirschberg, Peter Moore, Frank Gibeau, etc.

Be respectful, but be firm. Don't get inflammatory - if you wouldn't say it to their face, don't put it in a tweet.
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Cool. Good to know. I'm going to talk about all the games I've lent to people that have led to sales of new copies.
 
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LeBoef

Member
shinra-bansho said:
Was going to note the same in terms of tweeting third parties, I wasn't sure why anybody was suggest Capcom or EA etc. They don't want you to play used games.

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ok this time i wont post to mock you guys:

you cant be serious. 3rd party devs have been insulted for years for their online passes and other solutions.
those guys arent stupid and they surely forced sony and ms into this situation.

what you guys are doing right now is giving sony and ms sleeples nights, since they need to solve a problem which they surely didnt want in the first place.
i dont think they ll try to find another solution. they ll just look for a nicer way to tell you how its going to be.

at the time ea & co sit back and relax since they dont have online passes and other shit anymore. everything went as expected. they should be the venter of the focus...


sorry for OT
 
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famousmortimer

Banned
bishoptl said:
I don't know if it's been said already, but I'll reiterate here:

You should be messaging the key stakeholders at the 3rd party publishers. That's where this DRM push is coming from.

Sony is receiving your messages loud and clear, btw. Whoever said not to bother reaching out on Twitter is very, very wrong.
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Agreed and we have been trying to find a way to do this. The problem I see logistically (beyond not having twitter addresses/other ways to contact them... other than through their PR/social media team) is that they have very little reason to care. We can't exert any pressure on them because the deflection is that they don't control how the used game DRM works so don't blame them. And while it's not fair to go after Sony alone in this, they are the ones that decide yes or no. So the basic idea is that Publishers are pushing them one way, we are pushing them another.

I did import someone's list of the main twitter accounts of Activision/EA/etc into the OP. We need a more detailed plan there though. When i made this thread 24 hours ago I just posted what I knew, which was Sony, and never in a million years thought it was going to blow up like this.
 
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everyday math

Banned
Saw this pop on my feed. Made me smile. Did someone here make it?
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Drencrom

Member
bishoptl said:
I don't know if it's been said already, but I'll reiterate here:

You should be messaging the key stakeholders at the 3rd party publishers. That's where this DRM push is coming from.
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Good to know, we should tweet Gofreak's letter to EA, CAPCOM, Activision, Ubisoft and Konami then.

http://gofreak-ie.appspot.com/ps4usedgames

bishoptl said:
Sony is receiving your messages loud and clear, btw. Whoever said not to bother reaching out on Twitter is very, very wrong.
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Don't stop GAF, keep crankin'
 
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gundamkyoukai

Member
Hex said:
Indeed.
It is them who it all comes down to.
If they are the ones who are forcing the issue, they are the ones who have to change their mind.
At best Sony can leave it up to the devs, but if they are not going to be left in the cold by third parties they will have to back their decisions.
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That is why if Sony is force to do it which most likely going to happen .
I what them leave it up to publishers and those publishers won't get any money from me next gen .
Guess it's time to tweet some 3rd party heads .
 
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Beren

Member
bishoptl said:
I don't know if it's been said already, but I'll reiterate here:

You should be messaging the key stakeholders at the 3rd party publishers. That's where this DRM push is coming from.

Sony is receiving your messages loud and clear, btw. Whoever said not to bother reaching out on Twitter is very, very wrong.
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Thanks ill try and make a list:
EA
@EA
@EASPORTSFIFA
Namco
@namcogames
@NamcoBandaiUK
@namco_jp
@NAMCOBANDAI_SA
CDprojektRED
@CDProjektRED
@CDProjektRED_EN
Activision
@Activision
Square Enix
@SquareEnixUSA
@SquareEnixFR
Level5
@LEVEL5_times
@LEVEL5_IA
Bungie
@Bungie
Blizzard
@BlizzardCSEU_EN
@BlizzardCSEU_RU
@BlizzardCS_KR
2kGames
@2KGames
@2KInternational
@2KGamesChina
Irrational Games
@IrrationalGames
Konami
@Konami
THQ
@THQ

Feel free to add/fix stuff there are too many and i don't remember them all :3
 
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Leucrota

Member
Let me just ask:
If it was impossible for MS to add GDDR5 RAMto their system after Sony's announcement, how could Sony be expected to change their DRM scheme, assuming they planned on one, so soon?

As far as I know, DRM is nominally hardware based.
 
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RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
Beren said:
Thanks ill try and make a list:
EA
@EA
@EASPORTSFIFA
Namco
@namcogames
@NamcoBandaiUK
@namco_jp
@NAMCOBANDAI_SA
CDprojektRED
@CDProjektRED
@CDProjektRED_EN
Activision
@Activision
Square Enix
@SquareEnixUSA
@SquareEnixFR
Level5
@LEVEL5_times
@LEVEL5_IA
Bungie
@Bungie
Blizzard
@BlizzardCSEU_EN
@BlizzardCSEU_RU
@BlizzardCS_KR
2kGames
@2KGames
@2KInternational
@2KGamesChina
Irrational Games
@IrrationalGames
Konami
@Konami
THQ
@THQ

Feel free to add/fix stuff there are too many and i don't remember them all :3
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Tweeting THQ will make a MASSIVE difference.
 
LiquidMetal14

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Beren said:
Thanks ill try and make a list:
EA
@EA
@EASPORTSFIFA
Namco
@namcogames
@NamcoBandaiUK
@namco_jp
@NAMCOBANDAI_SA
CDprojektRED
@CDProjektRED
@CDProjektRED_EN
Activision
@Activision
Square Enix
@SquareEnixUSA
@SquareEnixFR
Level5
@LEVEL5_times
@LEVEL5_IA
Bungie
@Bungie
Blizzard
@BlizzardCSEU_EN
@BlizzardCSEU_RU
@BlizzardCS_KR
2kGames
@2KGames
@2KInternational
@2KGamesChina
Irrational Games
@IrrationalGames
Konami
@Konami
THQ
@THQ

Feel free to add/fix stuff there are too many and i don't remember them all :3
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Can we get these in the OP with embedded links to the text for each? Would make things a lot easier.
 
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RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
PatMcAtee said:
Let me just ask:
If it was impossible for MS to add GDDR5 RAMto their system after Sony's announcement, how could Sony be expected to change their DRM scheme, assuming they planned on one, so soon?

As far as I know, DRM is nominally hardware based.
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It's almost always software based.
 
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SlowRevolution

Member
Why's this getting so little support on Reddit?

It's probably already been brought up, but any popular YouTube people who would make a video on this? LP'ers/vloggers/etc.
 
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famousmortimer

Banned
Beren said:
Thanks ill try and make a list:
EA
@EA
@EASPORTSFIFA
Namco
@namcogames
@NamcoBandaiUK
@namco_jp
@NAMCOBANDAI_SA
CDprojektRED
@CDProjektRED
@CDProjektRED_EN
Activision
@Activision
Square Enix
@SquareEnixUSA
@SquareEnixFR
Level5
@LEVEL5_times
@LEVEL5_IA
Bungie
@Bungie
Blizzard
@BlizzardCSEU_EN
@BlizzardCSEU_RU
@BlizzardCS_KR
2kGames
@2KGames
@2KInternational
@2KGamesChina
Irrational Games
@IrrationalGames
Konami
@Konami
THQ
@THQ

Feel free to add/fix stuff there are too many and i don't remember them all :3
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We need actual humans, not their social teams. I like the effort though!
 
Insane Metal

Insane Metal

Gold Member
This is incredible, good job, guys! It's still sad that we need something like this to discourage companies from doing such a travesty.
 
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