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#PS4NoDRM #XboxOneNoDRM || Now do you "Believe?"

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Sophia

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It will be better for us all in the end if this campaign fails. Used/rental is blatantly worse than piracy where consoles are concerned. The industry can no longer afford itself and measures need to be taken.

You didn't think this through did you? Contrary to popular belief, rentals do not exist in a vacuum where the publisher gets no money.

TotalBiscuit is still at it on Twitter trying to prove why everyone is wasting their time. smh

If people would stop giving him attention and block him, he'd have to shut up.
 

Skilletor

Member
It will be better for us all in the end if this campaign fails. Used/rental is blatantly worse than piracy where consoles are concerned. The industry can no longer afford itself and measures need to be taken.

LOL.

Something perfectly legal is worse than something illegal.

Jesus christ on a cracker. Maybe I should just avoid any of these threads.
 

Taurus

Member
It will be better for us all in the end if this campaign fails. Used/rental is blatantly worse than piracy where consoles are concerned. The industry can no longer afford itself and measures need to be taken.
I think PS4 DRM is unavoidable at this point.
 

Stuart444

Member
Glad to see new people keep on seeing this and joining the campaign :) new people have joined this as recently as an hour ago so good stuff guys.
 

benny_a

extra source of jiggaflops
That won't work, the two are a complete package. Without mandating online checks, they would not even be able to enforce a policy of no used games.
They could. Sony has a patent of tying Blurays to a single device.

That would still be unacceptable, but they described how they can do it in a patent 2 years ago.
 

Zabant

Member
It will be better for us all in the end if this campaign fails. Used/rental is blatantly worse than piracy where consoles are concerned. The industry can no longer afford itself and measures need to be taken.

So why through all the 90's did the industry bitch and moan about Rentals and not used games?

So why through all the 00's did the industry bitch and moan about Piracy and not used games?

Because used games have nothing to fucking do with them not meeting their expected targets, when a game costs 100 million to make you have already fucked up.

Rentals have died and evidence and research has shown piracy has little to no effect on the AAA industry and actually HELPS in the small/indi games market. Used games are the new boogyman for them to blame instead of realizing they cant manage a fucking production budget to save their lives.
 
Actually I wonder if that twitter account is 4chan's attempt at disrupting this. Weren't they threatening that this morning? I haven't been to /v in forever.
 

J_Lee

Banned
Would anyone be down for me to start a petition on We The People to see if we can get the government involved with this as far as the legality every other country but the US laughs at this ELUA.
 

antitrop

Member
Would anyone be down for me to start a petition on We The People to see if we can get the government involved with this as far as the legality every other country but the US laughs at this ELUA.
I think "We The People" is more worthless than Twitter for accomplishing anything.
 

Globox_82

Banned
who posted this?
@geoffkeighley Just FYI, if you're against used games DRM for next gen, let publishers know about it #PS4NoDRM

Do you really think Geoff gives a shit?

i think when i was spamming the PS4NoDRM he @yosp blocked my twitter account LOL.

it's happening guys. Ps4 must have used DRM in place.

no you are just annoying. It's enough to send it to him once.
 
They could. Sony has a patent of tying Blurays to a single device.

That would still be unacceptable, but they described how they can do it in a patent 2 years ago.

Well then there wouldn't even be a way to play on the same account on another console. That's just scorched Earth. Hell, even MS wasn't dumb enough to do that. I think in this case, they are a packaged deal.
 

Spongebob

Banned
It will be better for us all in the end if this campaign fails. Used/rental is blatantly worse than piracy where consoles are concerned. The industry can no longer afford itself and measures need to be taken.
Completely disagree (understatement).
 
I'd be shocked if they were tbh, don't they get a lot of money from emerging markets for their older consoles? They would effectively be killing that market in 5 or so years time.

Yup! Which was exactly his point.

Would anyone be down for me to start a petition on We The People to see if we can get the government involved with this as far as the legality every other country but the US laughs at this ELUA.

Go for it if you want. Just make sure you call them EULAs, not ELUAs. :p
 

benny_a

extra source of jiggaflops
Well then there wouldn't even be a way to play on the same account on another console. That's just scorched Earth. Hell, even MS wasn't dumb enough to do that. I think in this case, they are a packaged deal.
They could lock it to the hardware for offline and use the regular bluray redemption the PS3 already supports for the people that have online access.

They are the makers of the system, they can freely combine the already existing and described system as they please.

Point is: They can block used games without requiring an Internet connection, if they choose to.
 

Zabant

Member
Would anyone be down for me to start a petition on We The People to see if we can get the government involved with this as far as the legality every other country but the US laughs at this ELUA.

Doubt it, the US is the only place on earth (that i know of) that classes corporations as people. I have seen a depressing trend of court cases siding with the big boys because of lobbying. I would love it if the US turned around and said EULA's are worthless but i'm not holding my breath.
 
People shouldn't be spamming anyway. Once to each exec a day, no more.

well i was following him before. and his feed saw it (Forgot that he sees everything regardless if it's to him or not lol). if you're not following it won't add it to his feed. he just goes to check the mentioned categories.
 
Keighly gets too much shit. He does a good job as far as TV style presentation for games media. GAF has got a lot from him over the years. Jaffe interviews and discussions top of mind for me. I like his Bonus Rounds with Jeff Gerstman and Shacknews guys too.

He frequently brings up good points like this whole PS4 thing today.
 

Hex

Banned
Keighly gets too much shit. He does a good job as far as TV style presentation for games media. GAF has got a lot from him over the years. Jaffe interviews and discussions top of mind for me. I like his Bonus Rounds with Jeff Gerstman and Shacknews guys too.

He frequently brings up good points like this whole PS4 thing today.

That was not him and had nothing to do with him
 
Im off to work. I will still be on most of the night but checking through my phone and a 286 from 1991 on internet explorer. So if something happens and it seems like I missed it, PM me.


Thanks ya'll.
 
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