And incase some people can't make the next logical connection.
You can't have DRM on games, if you don't require a net connection before every play
There is a limit, but it's like 2 weeks or something really long like that. At least, I think that's the case
There isn't a time limit for Steam's offline play.I didn't know there was a time limit for Steam's offline play? There's so much contradicting information on this subject. Last I heard it was "forever offline".
That is EXACTLY how the PS3 works right now!
I really thought the majority of GAF users were more knowledgeable about the current market, but apparently not. It's been this way from day 1 on PS3. Only in the entire 7-8 year history of the PS3 have like 3-5 games even used it. All but one of them were from Capcom and they were only for PSN downloadable games. I can't even remember the games offhand because I refused to even think about buying them. Maybe someone else can state the literal handful of titles that uses online checks when you load the game on your PS3.
Maybe this bit of info needs to be added to the OP as well. I can't believe people think this is something new. It's already been shown that most publishers & developers don't use it when it's not a system level security function.
This threaded needed to be made.
I think you've greatly misinterpreted this debate. The online DRM checks are the biggest problem. If you can't check in with those servers, every game you've purchased for that console is instantly worthless.
Finally an unambiguous answer... wow was that so motherfucking hard sony?
No online check in suggests no anti used drm either but you never know... now if they can give a clear no nonsense no spin answer on that I'll be content.
I'm so going to re-read this thread after E3.
Pretty much. That's what I (charitably) call it when different spokespeople for the company put out conflicting messages on the same day, to the point where they have to call another press conference to make things clearer. And by 'clearer', I mean We will be announcing details of this in the months ahead. Their conference was a PR nightmare on the DRM issue.lmafo
Microsoft were "confused"? By who? Themselves?
I'm always online when I play games so I dont care one bit.
I got mine, so fuck the rest of you!
The Republican Philosophy at work for gaming?
Yep, that was removed from excisting PS3s indeed through a firmware update. However, there was some reason why this was removed. I dont see any reason why they first would say that the PS4 doesnt require a internet connection, then turn 180 and say that it will require it anyway. But that is just my opinion. Time will tell what will happen =)What about second OS support?
I'm always online when I play games so I dont care one bit.
Yep, that was removed from excisting PS3s indeed through a firmware update. However, there was some reason why this was removed. I dont see any reason why they first would say that the PS4 doesnt require a internet connection, then turn 180 and say that it will require it anyway. But that is just my opinion. Time will tell what happends =)
I was pretty bummed when they did that. Long gone and forgotten still it seems.
Kotaku said:More relief... At a roundtable this morning, Sony's game studios chief, Shuhei Yoshida, told reporters that any requirement for users to register a game online in order to play it would be left to game publishers. Sony won't require that.
What are you trying to say XBeyOncè?
So much fun reading the comments in here.
I can't believe some still don't get it.
The Republican Philosophy at work for gaming?
That is EXACTLY how the PS3 works right now!
I really thought the majority of GAF users were more knowledgeable about the current market, but apparently not. It's been this way from day 1 on PS3. Only in the entire 7-8 year history of the PS3 have like 3-5 games even used it. All but one of them were from Capcom and they were only for PSN downloadable games. I can't even remember the games offhand because I refused to even think about buying them. Maybe someone else can state the literal handful of titles that uses online checks when you load the game on your PS3.
Maybe this bit of info needs to be added to the OP as well. I can't believe people think this is something new. It's already been shown that most publishers & developers don't use it when it's not a system level security function.
I don't see how calling me an idiot contradicts anything I said. If you find my logic faulty then please by all means to point it out. They clearly differentiate it from XBONE? I just don't see. Has Sony even compared themselves to XBONE yet? The latter is not related to what you said by the way.
Unless you know you actually work for Sony and then I would like to ask you to make a clear statement about what your online plans are for PS4 especially compared to PS3 (plus Vita)
But to what extent? My Steam library can also be enjoyed old-school for a couple weeks. Sony could have no restrictions on their first party releases, but that doesn't mean EA will do the same if the console still has an online DRM infrastructure in place.
I'm as eager to move on from this online/used games debacle as all of you, but we still don't have a clearer picture of what DRM will be like on the PS4 than we had after the Sony event in February.
Up until this post I..er..thought you were joking. Multiple higher-ups at Sony (Yoshida and Cerny) have both been cited as saying that the PS4 won't require an internet connection. Of course they're going to encourage that you connect your PS4 online. Why wouldn't they?
Yeah, it sucked for those who used OtherOS. Personally i never even tried the function on my 60GB PS3 after owning it for some years, so luckily i wasnt affected by it. But again, sucks for those who used the feature, no doubt about that.I was pretty bummed when they did that. Long gone and forgotten still it seems.
Well can you elaborate? Oh who am I kidding. Of course you won't when you can post a funny gif.
The evidence is there on the first page clear as day.
What do I need to elaborate?
I dont think that it is forgotten, but the majority of people didnt seem to care about it.Gamers (in the general sense) seem to have short memories.
I can't wait for bish's thread exposing all the viral marketeers here.
That is EXACTLY how the PS3 works right now!
I really thought the majority of GAF users were more knowledgeable about the current market, but apparently not. It's been this way from day 1 on PS3. Only in the entire 7-8 year history of the PS3 have like 3-5 games even used it. All but one of them were from Capcom and they were only for PSN downloadable games. I can't even remember the games offhand because I refused to even think about buying them. Maybe someone else can state the literal handful of titles that uses online checks when you load the game on your PS3.
Maybe this bit of info needs to be added to the OP as well. I can't believe people think this is something new. It's already been shown that most publishers & developers don't use it when it's not a system level security function.
Most publishers aren't going to waste time and money developing custom DRM solutions.
Sorry but my mind is not blown. I did not know about the fact that such practice existed on PS3 but it matters little. So what if you had to register PSN games? It is not same at all. Retail games are our foremost consern right now.
You're not connecting the dots. Think about why this thread was made. What for? Then maybe you'll reach a level of higher understanding.
Some believed Cerny wasn't clear enough with his comments so others brought up comments from another Sony Rep who clearly stated you can play the console without any internet connect whatsoever like "OLD SCHOOL".
Even though there is going to be some kind of DRM on the games by both Sony and Microsoft, I love the fact, that I can still play my games offline according to Sony.
Here's my thoughts in a joking manner;