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TRUTHFACT: MS having eSRAM yield problems on Xbox One
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Yeah, I suppose if they truly do have some big 3rd party deals (especially timed exclusivity) that the pressure to get consoles out there would be a lot higher than usual. Definitely a tough spot for them.
I am more interested if we even see live gameplay demo from actual Xbox One.
Bluekaveli
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So what's the verdict of all of this?
In a way I could see how they thought they were safe. I mean Sony even with them getting back on there feet after that ps3 launch have had such a shitty gen that it was laughable. Especially after the PSN hack/outage. Probably thought there financial problems would slow them down....
MS didn't realize that Kaz was hungry for dat Market Leader spot
MS didn't realize that Kaz was hungry for dat Market Leader spot
its definitely not as bad as a sinking ship.
I H8 Memes
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There is also the chance that MS will release a half-assed system and release a "XBox One MKII" in a couple of years time once they conquer the R&D proper.. slimmer, quieter, more productive, (still DRM tho)
They can get better yields, but they will never be able to change the clocks or increase performance. Every game made between now and the gen after this one has to be able to run on the consoles that are launching this fall. No other options.
Zombie James
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Microsoft's in a very tricky situation here. If these rumours are true and they're having major issues, the responsible thing to do would be to delay the damn thing until you sort it out. Rushing the 360 led to the RROD issue and a $1B price-tag, and the end result wasn't a major lead but a dead heat. With all the bad PR they're getting already, I don't think they want to add production delays, downgrading, and (potentially) broken consoles to the mix.
We should get that at E3 if Microsoft is bringing nothing but games.
YouEnjoyMySelf
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Yep. They are going to try and hide actual game play as much as they can.
I bet they do. They're lunching every single day at Sony. LUDICROUS!
Dude was full of shit. Anyone trying to argue against maths is full of shit.
I am sure just to really supply short launch like the 360. All they need is to launch in Europe and NA. No use launching in Japan honestly that DRM means the console is even more DOA than any console in history.
This also may be the case Bad yelds = small amount of working consoles.
Insane Metal
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Why does CboT post like that?
Also, goddamn MS.
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Sounds like they chose DDR3 as being the best option for the system at the time, but had no idea about all the manufacturing problems. DDR3 was a bad decision after all.
Also, goddamn MS.
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Sounds like they chose DDR3 as being the best option for the system at the time, but had no idea about all the manufacturing problems. DDR3 was a bad decision after all.
Relaxed Muscle
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Seeing that Xbox 360 sales are still decent enough, maybe MS thought they could hold some more months and that Sony wouldn't release on 2013...
But how would Sony not release the console this year!? too stupid to be truth...
Miles Quaritch
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With the Wii U? I'm pretty optimistic about most things, but I feel the Wii U is a lost cause in terms of wider publisher/developer support. It'll continue to bob along with first party titles and a smattering of digital titles, but it won't realistically be able to compete with Sony if MS were to ever drop out of the console race.
And if MS were to ever drop out, it would send a pretty clear message that if MS, a company with their seemingly never ending pot of money can't make a success of it, what chance does anyone else have.
This is going to be the best generation ever because:
Sony got their ass beat with PS3, so they're really bringing it with a well designed, powerful console that (seems to) balance the interests of devs, publishers, indies, sony, and consumers.
Nintendo got their ass beat with first year Wii U sales, so they really have to deliver on games.
Microsoft got their ass beat with hardware problems and pre-release backlash, so they really have to bring it (whatever that means for microsoft.)
I can't wait.
Agreed, it's got gamecube sales (actually less) with Wii third party support. However, it's got Desperation Mode (tm) nintendo games, which are besttendo.
Sony got their ass beat with PS3, so they're really bringing it with a well designed, powerful console that (seems to) balance the interests of devs, publishers, indies, sony, and consumers.
Nintendo got their ass beat with first year Wii U sales, so they really have to deliver on games.
Microsoft got their ass beat with hardware problems and pre-release backlash, so they really have to bring it (whatever that means for microsoft.)
I can't wait.
Agreed, it's got gamecube sales (actually less) with Wii third party support. However, it's got Desperation Mode (tm) nintendo games, which are besttendo.
Most likely. It'd be better to at least launch in North America this year.
Wickerbasket
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So he can't be quoted by blogs/websites and so people don't recognise his writing style.
Got to be careful when there are corporate spies all over neogaf.
Wishmaster92
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Or superdae saying that xbone games just look and feel better than on ps4.......
MS fucked up bad.
AstroZombie
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Either masking his/her writing style to avoid blowing cover, or it's Kittonwy.
BlazingDarkness
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To obfuscate his identity, and it makes it harder to search his name and the things he posts via google.
They should have launched the One in 2011 with Kinect imo. Would have forced Sony's hand earlier. 8 years is way too long for a console lifecycle. Nintendo are doing the right thing, when the Wii 3 comes out in 2017/2018 it'll end up being considerably more powerful with the PS5 and Xbox Two not being released for another 3 or 4 years. And by that time the Wii 3 will be on the tail end of its life, I can see both Sony and Microsoft continually playing catchup unless they go back to a more traditional 5 or 6 year lifecycle for their machines.
I'd guess MS probably just looked at Sony's strong 1st/2nd party PS3 lineup for the end of the year and assumed that that meant Sony wouldn't be releasing until 2014, and aligned their chips accordingly. I'd hope they're not that dumb, but they do seem to have been resting on their laurels for a little bit now.
Ooh man, now you're making me miss Kittonwy.
Thanks Chub. It was getting annoying.Added to OP about crazy's writing style. Maybe people will stop asking now.
To delay at all might as well push it off to fall 2014. To launch in NA anytime outside the holiday season is sending it to die. You could be right but only if they went back to drawing board scrapped the ES-Ram and beefed the rest up big time to have a big edge on the PS4. With how much pent up demand is for new consoles a delay in launch will be a complete disaster letting Sony run up a huge lead that doubt they could ever catch up to.
dragonelite
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Nah im pretty sure they knew what sony was shooting for.
They had the set top box plan and sticked to it.
Hope to bribe gamers with exclusives and such...
Oh my god the math conversations were just... So much text for such horseshit wth
Unfortunately, it wouldn't surprise me if some names we know at MS lose their jobs before this is all over.
flipswitch
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Read between the crack my friend.
If they do that I hope sony ripps them to shreds
tretton: Unlike some of our competitors we actually show the game the way you will play it.
Honey Bunny
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aka: Shh no tears, only clouds now.
I spilled my drink thanks to you.
Just the equivalent of carnival cruises.... Not exactly their best hour... but you might still have a good time, if the engines work and toilets don't overflow.
Yeah, I'm not understanding this theory about Sony catching MS off guard.
There's absolutely nothing MS can do about what Sony showed, other than to hunker down and just get on with it. MS' problems seem to come from poor planning, seemingly very late planning as well and a misguided focus. I don't think Sony have anything to do with it.
There's absolutely nothing MS can do about what Sony showed, other than to hunker down and just get on with it. MS' problems seem to come from poor planning, seemingly very late planning as well and a misguided focus. I don't think Sony have anything to do with it.
Valkyr Junkie
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I don't think either is going to subsidize the cost on these machines. They both know they can make a decent profit on the hardware selling at a reasonable MSRP, so as long as cooler heads prevail they won't be sold at a loss.
Probably not with the WiiU (they could at least regain some good will with it) but maybe their next console. If they get their act together next time they could produce a at least decent selling console (40-50 million units maybe).
I H8 Memes
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This whole fiasco is actually bad news for gamers as a whole. This isnt going to stop the casual crowd from buying the X1 at all. Might be enough to keep them from being in 1st place, but it wont keep them from being at least a close second.
So for us as gamers that means games designed to run on the machine that is the lowest common denominator. I only game on PC and it will even impact us PC gamers. This sucks.
So for us as gamers that means games designed to run on the machine that is the lowest common denominator. I only game on PC and it will even impact us PC gamers. This sucks.
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