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[abacab driver]

Source engine is a limiting choice imo

How so?
Source is a great engine.

 

[Yoda]

Going to laugh hard when this gets cracked just like SimCity and Diablo 3 did and the PC versions can be played without "the infinite power of the cloud".

 

[daveo42]

Megaton. Microsoft really is securing those exclusives, amazing times. Sony puts all its money into hardware, Microsoft into games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have deals in place to make Activision/EA/Take Two games not look inferior on X1 compared to PS4, that would truly be killing PS4. There have already been too many devs calling both platforms quite similar in terms of power which obviously is not true as far as performance is concerned. So maybe they just will be on par because devs aren't allowed to fully utilize PS4 if they want their game on X1 as well.

Microsoft has some pie, 1 billion dollar Xbox Live fees every year, Activision already gets their cut for making up half of Xbox Live subscribers due to CoD. The others sure want in on a deal like that and Sony hasn't got anything like Live Gold (they have much less subscribers and have to pay devs for all the free games they're giving to people). Sony better drop that free multiplayer cause they need some leverage if they want to be relevant again. Microsoft is moneyhatting like crazy, DLC for Destiny doesn't cut it. Where are the PS4 3rd party exclusives?

First, we don't really know if Sony has secured any exclusive 3rd party games at the moment.

Second, I think publishers will quickly realize that they will need to release their games on multiple platforms to generate the sales needed to continue to produce the AAA titles most are solely focusing on. By going exclusive, they get a good up front cut, but lose out on the people who are only looking to buy one console and do not buy an X1 for w/e reason. They will also realize that Microsoft with probably not continue to shell out $1 Billion a year for games development, meaning less money heading in the pockets of publishers. We saw it this gen. MS starts out with exclusives (both games and dlc). They end and get sold on the PS3. In the case of dlc, plenty of people still opted to wait for it on the PS3 version of the game instead of forking money over for a 360.

Three, one announced exclusive doesn't ring the death knell for Sony and 3rd party support. Publishers need Sony. That will only end if Sony leaves the console business for good, which is probably not happening any time soon.

 

[Ace Harding]

This idea MS are going to moneyhat worse performance on PS4 is absurd.

I feel like I've heard this before.

 

[graywolf323]

- Plan to use Microsoft's Cloud for dedicated servers and physics and AI calculations

so the AI is going to suck if you're offline...

PC will definitely be the best version easily then

 

[StuBurns]

I feel like I've heard this before.

What do you mean? They haven't done it before.

 

[pedrothelion]

so the AI is going to suck if you're offline...

PC will definitely be the best version easily then

It sound like it'll be an awalys online game ala Destiny and Defiance.

 

[Fi Fo Nye]

This idea MS are going to moneyhat worse performance on PS4 is absurd.

Uh... according to Senjutsu, that's not absurd. That's business.

 

[Iced_Eagle]

so the AI is going to suck if you're offline...

PC will definitely be the best version easily then

PC will probably also use the cloud. Same with the potential PS4 version in 2015.

 

[ebullientprism]

How so?
Source is a great engine.

Source was a great engine a long time ago.

Every other game thats running on the Source shows its age heavily. Last one I played, Portal 2, looks good (nothing close to the big hitters) and it had to load every 5 minutes.

I love Valve but I really hope they are doing HL3 (if they are doing it at all) on Source 2.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Is there any other news in the magazine?

I would love to buy it but it's now taken down.

 

[patapuf]

so the AI is going to suck if you're offline...

PC will definitely be the best version easily then

as far as i know this is MP only.

 

[bidguy]

so the AI is going to suck if you're offline...

PC will definitely be the best version easily then

its multiplayer only why the heck would you buy it if you have no internet ?

 

[cyberheater]

so the AI is going to suck if you're offline...

Yeah. I really don't get how this is supposed to work for offline games. I hope MS makes this clear next Monday. Maybe give a real world example of how the cloud will enhance games and what happens if your internet goes down.

 

[robin2]

>no PS4

Could this be the first of many pushes in favor of "the console that blocks used games"?
I can very well see EA (and the other big publishers) having that kind of plot in mind.

(PC-only fanboy here, so there is no "console A is better than console B" implication).

 

[Grief.exe]

Source was a great engine a long time ago.

Every other game thats running on the Source shows its age heavily. Last one I played, Portal 2, looks good (nothing close to the big hitters) and it had to load every 5 minutes.

I love Valve but I really hope they are doing HL3 (if they are doing it at all) on Source 2.

Source 2 is coming.

Was found in the source filmmaker files.

 

[cyberheater]

its multiplayer only why the heck would you buy it if you have no internet ?

It says it's got "One-Player Mode". So no. It's not multiplayer only.

 

[Iced_Eagle]

Yeah. I really don't get how this is supposed to work for offline games. I hope MS makes this clear next Monday. Maybe give a real world example of how the cloud will enhance games and what happens if your internet goes down.

But isn't the game MP only?

 

[RadarScope1]

So the new game franchise from the creators of Halo and the new game franchise from the creators of CoD: Modern Warfare are BOTH massively multiplayer FPS games with giants mechs vs soldiers, with an emphasis on better offerings for single-player missions within those worlds?

Do I have that right?

 

[Amir0x]

Oh man, PC version? It's like they understand I don't want to have to get a One <:

 

[statham]

Electronic Arts &#8207;@EA 3m

There’s a lot more of Titanfall to be revealed. Tune in to the EA E3 press conference on Monday June 10 at 1pm PDT for the details.

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[Opus Angelorum]

Surely this will be using the much rumoured Source 2 engine?

I know Source is highly scalable, but for next generation titles I think it would be quite limiting.

 

[Magnific0giganticus]

Megaton. Microsoft really is securing those exclusives, amazing times. Sony puts all its money into hardware, Microsoft into games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have deals in place to make Activision/EA/Take Two games not look inferior on X1 compared to PS4, that would truly be killing PS4. There have already been too many devs calling both platforms quite similar in terms of power which obviously is not true as far as performance is concerned. So maybe they just will be on par because devs aren't allowed to fully utilize PS4 if they want their game on X1 as well.

Microsoft has some pie, 1 billion dollar Xbox Live fees every year, Activision already gets their cut for making up half of Xbox Live subscribers due to CoD. The others sure want in on a deal like that and Sony hasn't got anything like Live Gold (they have much less subscribers and have to pay devs for all the free games they're giving to people). Sony better drop that free multiplayer cause they need some leverage if they want to be relevant again. Microsoft is moneyhatting like crazy, DLC for Destiny doesn't cut it. Where are the PS4 3rd party exclusives?

Are you actually happy of the money-hatting? Will you be happy if something like this happens (multiplats gimped on PS4) ??

 

[Gorillaz]

^ So EA is just rolling with the hits?

 

[trmas]

This will never be on the PS4 - and I am okay with that. Sounds like another game for the uneducated "I want to shoot everyone in the face" gamer that can barely pay for their apartment. Yet they scrape up the money for Live.

MS will succeed big in America with this... and gaming will continue to spiral into a plethora of generic FPS shooters.

 

[pedrothelion]

Source was a great engine a long time ago.

Every other game thats running on the Source shows its age heavily. Last one I played, Portal 2, looks good (nothing close to the big hitters) and it had to load every 5 minutes.

I love Valve but I really hope they are doing HL3 (if they are doing it at all) on Source 2.

Another reason I think they're using Source is that, much like the COD engine, their both have their foundation/base in the old Quake engine. I would imagine there is some carry over between the engines and thus some familiarity for Respawn.

 

[Willy Wanka]

Terrible name but I like big robots and the details make it sound very interesting to play. I'm looking forward to seeing what it looks like.

 

[Drek]

This idea MS are going to moneyhat worse performance on PS4 is absurd.

It really is.

Take EA and Activision's battle for contemporary FPS supremacy. Do you really think either one would risk giving the other an edge on the PS4 by shorting their PS4 version? It's not like EA and Activision would 1. agree with each other to do this or 2. even trust each other to do so if they did. They're both cut throat SOB companies who've stabbed far closer partners in the back for short term gain, that's business in an every changing media industry.

Same goes for any publishers or developers who don't have a guaranteed hit on their hands. None of them will intentionally leave resources at their disposal when the competition (read: all other software) might make use of it and leave them behind. Graphics DO matter to some degree in sales, and they definitely matter for reviews. Agreeing to do this is basically giving up PS4 sales without even getting a full exclusive level money hat from MS.

TitanFall will probably be visually gimped because it's first and foremost being made as an XB1 game, but if you're multi-plat day and date there is WAY too much risk involved with laying up short of what you're able to achieve.

Hell, when EA does bring TitanFall or it's sequel to the PS4 they're probably going to pull out all the stops because they're going to be going head to head with Destiny, which is unlikely to see Bungie pull any punches after Sony asked for their input on the controller.

 

[IcyEyes]

... I think publishers will quickly realize that they will need to release their games on multiple platforms to generate the sales needed to continue to produce the AAA titles most are solely focusing on...

You are totally right.
I mean, it's a simple fact, but looks like few people realize this.

 

[mbmonk]

I do wonder if they can replicate that FPS magic in the Source engine that they found in the Quake 3 engine ( COD series ). There is something smooth about aiming in the Q3 engine. Maybe it's 60 fps.

It will be interesting.

 

[StuBurns]

Uh... according to Senjutsu, that's not absurd. That's business.

I don't know to what you're referring, but it's not a good distribution of your budget at all. Firstly, it won't help sell the console, Sony's first party stuff will just look even better by comparison, and PCs massively outperform consoles, and it hasn't made any difference. Secondly it hurts the third parties, because their software looks weaker compared to Sony's first party efforts. Thirdly, it's pointless, because Xbox and GC had the better versions of everything back in the day, and the PS2 completely outsold them constantly. Finally, MS has always been hugely wealthier than Sony, they could have always done that, and they never have.

The money could be spent so much better on exclusive content and actual exclusives, something that would actually make a difference.

 

[cyberheater]

This will never be on the PS4 - and I am okay with that. Sounds like another game for the uneducated "I want to shoot everyone in the face" gamer that can barely pay for their apartment. Yet they scrape up the money for Live.

What the fuck are you talking about.

 

[Verendus]

This will never be on the PS4 - and I am okay with that. Sounds like another game for the uneducated "I want to shoot everyone in the face" gamer that can barely pay for their apartment. Yet they scrape up the money for Live.

MS will succeed big in America with this... and gaming will continue to spiral into a plethora of generic FPS shooters.

It'll be on the PS4. I hope you're okay with that too.

I want to see this game's art direction and gameplay in action. Curious as to how the wall running and mech gameplay looks.

 

[Drek]

What the fuck are you talking about.

Goofy "I hate all games with shooting!" angst.

 

[trmas]

It will never be on the PS4 - unless Sony gives in to online DRM. A one year console exclusive is as good as completely exclusive these days.

 

[BennBeckman]

I'm sticking to my initial prediction. Xb1 software will stomp ps4 software this e3. I also expect some bad news from sony re DRM

 

[Kurdel]

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But, isn't that piggybacking on the LIVE infrastructure that PC gamers don't pay?

I am really worried this will be some kind of Windows 8 marketplace BS exclusive...

 

[Amir0x]

It'll be on the PS4. I hope you're okay with that too.

I want to see this game's art direction and gameplay in action. Curious as to how the wall running and mech gameplay looks.

It will never be on the PS4 - unless Sony gives in to online DRM. A one year console exclusive is as good as completely exclusive these days.

Verendus has spoken, so it will be on PS4. Probably too late for it to be relevant, but that's OK since I won't be getting it on PS4 or Xbox One (thank the lords) - I'll be getting it on PC! Thank you based PC Gods for allowing me once me to avoid that trap

 

[Krilekk]

Are you actually happy of the money-hatting? Will you be happy if something like this happens (multiplats gimped on PS4) ??

I have both consoles preordered, I'm happy for every exclusive to either platform cause it gives a purpose to actually owning either one.

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

I'm sticking to my initial prediction. Xb1 software will stomp ps4 software this e3. I also expect some bad news from sony re DRM

I disagree with the first part, but agree with the second part.

 

[Raide]

Verendus has spoken, so it will be on PS4. Probably too late for it to be relevant, but that's OK since I won't be getting it on PS4 or Xbox One (thank the lords) - I'll be getting it on PC! Thank you based PC Gods for allowing me once me to avoid that trap

Yay for PC...ends up being GFWL only....

 

[Krilekk]

But, isn't that piggybacking on the LIVE infrastructure that PC gamers don't pay?

I am really worried this will be some kind of Windows 8 marketplace BS exclusive...

You can bet it's gonna be exclusive to Windows 8.

 

[cyberheater]

Goofy "I hate all games with shooting!" angst.

Then why is he in a thread about that type of game. SMH.

 

[Barack Lesnar]

You could always join us PC Gamers ;-)

I did 4 years ago, I'll prob get it on PC. I just rather have got it on PS4

 

[Maztorre]

Wonder if EA will lock a game powered by a Valve-made engine out of Steam. They are probably that dumb.

 

[Baby Milo]

Verendus has spoken, so it will be on PS4. Probably too late for it to be relevant, but that's OK since I won't be getting it on PS4 or Xbox One (thank the lords) - I'll be getting it on PC! Thank you based PC Gods for allowing me once me to avoid that trap

i think PS4 gamers will have there own FPS to play with Killzone,planetside 2,other f2p shooter games

nice coup for MS though

 

[rakkadakka]

You can bet it's gonna be exclusive to Windows 8.

Published by EA, not Microsoft.

It'll be on Origin.

 

[Krilekk]

I disagree with the first part, but agree with the second part.

Sony doesn't have to talk about used games now. They will try to keep that topic wrapped until a couple of weeks prior to launch.

 

[Interfectum]

Wonder if EA will lock a game powered by a Valve-made engine out of Steam. They are probably that dumb.

I think it will be Origin exclusive but honestly it all depends on how much control Respawn has of the property outside of consoles. Maybe they can self publish wherever they want on PC? I dunno...

 

[JordanN]

This idea MS are going to moneyhat worse performance on PS4 is absurd.

I wonder if Microsoft would have saved more money if they made the XBO closer to the PS4 in power?

Unless this is only going to be a short term thing.