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PS4: The requested features that need to happen: Region switching & PSN ID changing
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Chuck Norris
Banned
I think Sony need to work on unifying the content worlwide
Yes, that means Japanese content will be available if you are in America from a US account
Yes, that means Japanese content will be available if you are in America from a US account
pharmboy044
Member
I want preloading for all regions and universal rekeases for digital games.
brandonh83
Banned
That's just it though. I want to carry over my current SEN account to PS4, you know, just keep adding and adding trophies and game ownership all across Playstation platforms on the same account. I don't want to start over with a new ID. There could be ramifications there. For instance, perhaps one day they'll let us play our downloaded PSone games on PS4, and considering that I've already bought over 50 of them on my current account, I'd kind of hate to rebuy those on another account just because I wanted a new ID.
jetsetfluken
Member
A "universal" PlayStation Store that all accounts can access that has ALL region content was something of a pipedream for many people earlier in this generation when we started seeing the difference and annoyances of different content across different regions.
Perhaps now it is a possibility with PS4, let's hope. But if PS Vita is any indication, the strict dichotemy between the SCE branches will remain.
Asking for SCE to re-work how they do releases digitally is too complicated.
I'm NOT asking SCE to break their back and try (and fail) to get as many games across all regions.
The simple fix, and only viable fix for this is to let users be able to change account region.
PlayStation Mobile section games (check it out on Vita PS Store) allows ANY region PSN account to access ALL region PS Mobile games, regardless if a game is translated or not. I'd like to see that kind of thing with PS4's store.
However this still doesn't fix the issue of things like Japanese accounts not being able to complete inFamous Festival of Blood because it can't connect to the UGC server, or US/EU/AU accounts not being able to even play many JP PSN games (like the Toro news series) due to region account locked microtransactions.
Being able to switch region is the all-encompassing solution.
Gokurakumaru
Banned
I don't care about name changing, but I believe in region switching. It's 2013 and people repatriate.
But with that said, I know the reason the TC wants it is because he wants to buy content from multiple regions and play them under one account. Unless he plans to batch purchases up for 6 months at a time, MS' solution is a lousy one.
I have a JP and an AU account. Even if I can switch regions, that content won't be moving. So honestly while I think you should be able to switch region (and as often as you want) I don't care about the feature. The horse has bolted for me.
But with that said, I know the reason the TC wants it is because he wants to buy content from multiple regions and play them under one account. Unless he plans to batch purchases up for 6 months at a time, MS' solution is a lousy one.
I have a JP and an AU account. Even if I can switch regions, that content won't be moving. So honestly while I think you should be able to switch region (and as often as you want) I don't care about the feature. The horse has bolted for me.
it's an edge case because i can't see there being significant use of the feature. gotta weigh the work involved in doing it with the amount of users who would actually make use of it
JStein0222
Member
Absolutely begging for this
jetsetfluken
Member
Yes, I understand it would take work to implement...but I am vouching for it because it's such an easy fix.
Yes, it really is as simple as letting (for a controlled period of time) the user to get access to that region dropdown menu that they originally saw when signing up for PSN. I even believe the Download List could remain intact. And even if not (like MS), I wouldn't care, and is a necessary sacrifice if need be.
Oh. Well thanks for clearing that up.
Hopefully these points are looked at and are put into place as they all seem reasonable so far.
Every time I see rubricmarine when I log in, I die a little inside. JUST ONE LETTER SONY. LET ME CHANGE IT. PLEASE.
jetsetfluken
Member
Originally I was always vouching for PS Vita to get multiple account support and content on different accounts usable on any on the system (like PS3).
However, that was a pipedream, because of Sony's "official" stance on Vita being a personal device thus not allowing multiple accounts. We should have saw it coming after PSP one-account lock.
I respect that, and I move on to a more all-encompassing and important feature to vouch for: ability to just change the region of the PSN ID every few months.
scytherage
Member
Please make a 'Rest of World' region and provide some type of limited support. If they don't want to commit to a full blown marketplace for every country, at least have a subset of practical features for everyone else that doesn't live in the major countries in the world.
I really hope Sony will be more inclusive with their region strategy.
I really hope Sony will be more inclusive with their region strategy.
jetsetfluken
Member
PSN ID switching?
People need to be accountable for their social behaviours. It doesn't need to be real names, but the identity should be permanent.
Also, if you messed it up to begin with, probably lay off the alcohol when you sign up for stuff.
I agree with that somewhat. However, think of more situations.
Let's take one situation for example. You are a hardcore trophy 100% guy.
You have the perfect PSN ID to your satisfaction. It's your handle.
But then something happens. You play a game(s) where trophies are impossible to get 100%
You want to then start a new account...however, you DON'T want to have to think of a whole new name for yourself.
With the way it is now on PSN, you HAVE TO think of a new name for yourself with a new account. Or be lame and add numbers at the end, not ideal.
With Microsoft on the other hand, say the hardcore achievement guy messes up his account. He can just change his current name to something to make it available again, then reserve it again on a new account. Voila. Same old nickname, new achievement list.
I know that situation sounds a little specific, but stay with me here. This is just one of many, many scenarios where a good name is made and someone wants to change it.
I understand the need to change the ID but why are you expecting the account system to be like the Vita's? PSP could only have one PSNID installed at a time, like the Vita and that was before the PS3. There is obviously a difference in how accounts are handled on portables and home consoles by Sony.
If it is as with the PS3, none of your region concerns for the PS4 should be warranted. Just use multiple accounts for the regions you want to buy stuff from and play them with your main account. It worked with the PS3, why not the PS4? Of course we'll only know once the PS4 actually arrives.
If it is as with the PS3, none of your region concerns for the PS4 should be warranted. Just use multiple accounts for the regions you want to buy stuff from and play them with your main account. It worked with the PS3, why not the PS4? Of course we'll only know once the PS4 actually arrives.
jetsetfluken
Member
I'm not saying that I think PS4 will be like Vita. It will probably be almost exactly like PS3. However, that doesn't mean PS3 allows the user to play 100% of all games NOR complete their trophies. Those things are locked behind certain regions.
The want for region switching (for my situation, there are many other scenarios for others) is to correct all the limitations that I had with PS3 and especially Vita, and actually have one all-encompassing PSN account.
Terrordactyl
Member
I would like to see them use a different system for adding friends and let you use whatever user name you want even if it's already in use.
jetsetfluken
Member
Apparently, for a small subset of titles, you have to switch users on your PS3.
drtomoe123
Member
PSN ID switching?
People need to be accountable for their social behaviours. It doesn't need to be real names, but the identity should be permanent.
Also, if you messed it up to begin with, probably lay off the alcohol when you sign up for stuff.
I was 17 when I made my PSN account in 2006.
Things change.
Yes. I made the mistake of making my primary a sub account of another one of my accounts. Now every time I want to add funds I have to log in as my master account.
Kenshin001
Member
Has anyone from Sony talked about this? Really wish I could change my PSN ID.
Abso-fucking-lutely. Sick of this.
bassman2112
Member
I'm really curious whether or not Sony will have comparable digital game-sharing features as Microsoft does.
I realize they don't have the DRM, nor do they have the 24 hour check; but that recent (anonymous, uncited) article that came out of the Pastebin thing actually made me think about this issue. If the PS4 doesn't have this feature at all, that could be worrisome to some (I personally don't care, I am just wondering if them not having it would take any of the wind out of their sails).
I realize they don't have the DRM, nor do they have the 24 hour check; but that recent (anonymous, uncited) article that came out of the Pastebin thing actually made me think about this issue. If the PS4 doesn't have this feature at all, that could be worrisome to some (I personally don't care, I am just wondering if them not having it would take any of the wind out of their sails).
Razgriz-Specter
Member
I want the Japanese avatars.
freaking Ace Combat sets and many others never come to the US.
Japanese store also gets crazy anime avatars that would never release in the US.(wouldn't be bad if the US got some on an equal level like comic characters or something)
jetsetfluken
Member
Thanks. If we can get a list of accounts to contact, I'll add it to the OP.
#changePSNID
#changePSNregion
jetsetfluken
Member
I want the Japanese avatars.
freaking Ace Combat sets and many others never come to the US.
Japanese store also gets crazy anime avatars that would never release in the US.(wouldn't be bad if the US got some on an equal level like comic characters or something)
Yep, avatars are one of the biggies for me as well personally. These are also account locked, just like Vita digital games and DLC.
If you haven't noticed, all you'll really see on NA/EU users are the same old: dudebro game avatar, free PS+ avatar, or NIS game (Disgaea/Neptunia) avatar.
There really is no middleground. Japan has so many varied avatars nobody has seen before and from much more interesting sources, personally. And isn't the point of the "gamer picture" to be personal, not something everyone is using?
It's funny you use those EVA avatars as an example. There was also an Evangelon "Toro news" style game a few years back...that was once again, only accessable via Japan accounts! That's right, microtransaction needed to "play" it, so cannot connect if your PS Store isn't JP.
Certinty
Member
Had a US account since 2007. Living in the UK since almost after then I kept using that account, but then when I got a Vita I had no choice but to use a UK account.
Now i'm just using this UK account as my main account but I am disappointed since I lost so much content I had on my US account.
Now i'm just using this UK account as my main account but I am disappointed since I lost so much content I had on my US account.
jetsetfluken
Member
Yeah, I made sure to outline the "moving" reason in the OP. It truly is a very real scenario and the region switching needs to happen.
Microsoft didn't implement it for nothing last year.
Hopefully yours and in the future others who run into the same situation won't have this issue anyone. Since THE MOVEMENT is on!
#changePSNregion
Dr.Palutena
Member
At this point I pretty much need to or want to change every one of the 5 or so things that are unchangeable about PSN accounts. I'd really love it if they would, since like every other service (gaming and otherwise) allows you to in some form.
jetsetfluken
Member
What are the others besides changing account region, changing PSN ID, deleting 0% trophy lists, and sub accounts being upgradable to master accounts?
Those are the big ones that I think need to be addressed (in that order) for me to be 100% satisfied in PSN from here on out and it to be the "main" platform.
Else, if these features are in place on the competitor's platform, it gives more reason to favor and use theirs.
Everyone is happy about no DRM and Sony listening to many things lately, now let's get the final pieces of the puzzle in place for PS4.
Cave Johnson
Member
#ALLCREDITCARDSUPPORT
This is the most worrisome to me out of this announcement. I don't live in the US, but I rely on PSN cards here in order to purchase items on my US account (which is my main). I didn't mind it back then but now it's become mandatory to play online, getting PSN cards are inconvenient as my local retailers hardly stock them which means the credit card is the only other alternative.
SONY, if you are listening you need to resolve this ISSUE.
This is the most worrisome to me out of this announcement. I don't live in the US, but I rely on PSN cards here in order to purchase items on my US account (which is my main). I didn't mind it back then but now it's become mandatory to play online, getting PSN cards are inconvenient as my local retailers hardly stock them which means the credit card is the only other alternative.
SONY, if you are listening you need to resolve this ISSUE.
jetsetfluken
Member
Like I've said before, asking for intricate and complicated little fixes like this are probably too much to bother asking for, as it would involve individually bothering each region branch of SCE (and then the sub-regions of for instance SCEE...there are many).
I ask for region swtiching because it is an all-encompassing solution to all of these sorts of issues.
With that in place, your issue would be fixed, mine would be fixed, everyone's would be fixed.
When looking at the different main regions of PSN and their PS Store selections across PS3 and PSV, PSN really is a wonderous place, and growing.
It's just that most of if is locked behind bars. See it as 3 doors. You only can have the key to one. Give us freedom, SCE.
So much this. I had to setup a new account as a result. Luckily it was early on and I didn't have many PS3 games, so not many trophies and only a couple of PSN purchases.
Seth Balmore
Member
jetsetfluken
Member
Yes, this is definitely a big one and dumbfounded why it's still not in place.
I would say to just forget about hoping for it on PS3 and wait for PS4...but here's the thing: PS4 is not backwards compatible with that content.
Sony needs to sort the download list issue out on PS3 before PS4 launches, so PS3 can pretty much be future proofed and forgotten about and "completed" as far as new firmware features.