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PS4 grabs 95% of Consumer Votes after Amazon shuts poll down early
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Wildstar75
Member
Wait until you try the new Xbox rumble triggers in Forza 5. They feel next gen!
Maybe the Wii U controller got it right?
vpance
Member
Yep that's the trick. I don't know why people would ever hold it like in that pic.
I just picked up the controller the way you describe and it's an ergonomic nightmare.
I wish they would have left the survey up. Microsoft needs every opportunity possible to see that they've missed the mark with gamers. Instead, in their hubris they'll launch this product full of negative features at $500, and people will vote with their wallets, when it's too late.
it will still sell out at launch, and Microsoft will view this as affirmation that they've made all the right choices
Because most of the time your right thumb is on buttons not the stick (except for shooters).
xn0
Member
I didn't mean to tangent this thread with the age old DS vs 360 controller. I was just mentioning that the DS is uncomfortable for me and in my opinion the 3rd party "360like" controllers (shadow, etc.) are horrible and it would be great of Sony made a controller with the dpad and analog switched to help us with larger hands that play mostly shooters transition to PS4. That being said hopefully the new DS4 (which looks larger) will be much more comfortable than the DS3.
It's crazy to me that people are saying that the poll is useless. I get it that it isn't a good representation of everyone but it paints a pretty good picture of what it's going to be like. If the majority of GAF are going with PS4 or whatever, the majority of that poll is as well as amazons poll, it is quite clear that the PS4 is really "winning" I guess you could say right now. Hopefully when the consoles are out and Microsoft clears a few things up that are currently up in the air, it will give Microsoft greater sales and there will be more excitement towards the console.
This picture is really dumb. The only thing it shows is gamer don't even have flexible hands. This is simply the thumb opened up, not some weird twisted angle. Instead the XBox has the digi-pad in the analogue sticks place eventhough the angle of the finger over there makes rapid tapping a bit slower (albeit very little).I am voting with my money and preorderd a PS4 last week (eventhrough I really liked how Titanfall looked). I have 2 PS3's and 2 360s and 360 was my primary this generation. I'm trying to get back into my PS3 with The Last of us and but the DS3 controller left analog placement makes gaming painful (especially for first/3rd person shooters). I would be overjoyed if Sony announced a 1st party DS4 controller with the analog/Dpad switched, because my thumb is aching after only 3 hours of play with that DS3 torture device. I'd really like Sony to make one especially since the 3rd party "360like" PS3 controllers are horrible.
Always has been a weird complaint and the asymetry feels a lot stranger to me.
To Far Away Times
Member
95%? That's it?
Why yes I have, it's called call of duty.
Visualante2
Member
Have to wonder if Microsoft forced Amazon to shut it down after seeing it. Or face having limited stock allocation for launch.
Barkley's Justice
Member
assuming it wasn't hacked...
Facebook was hacked? If you know someting: New thread for new news.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
it would help if this person would hold it correctly.
if you start off by placing your fingertips on L1 and R1, and then position the rest of your hand along the handles, it's way more comfortable. the only issue is that the handles aren't long enough.
this is fortunately solved with DS4, which has longer handles.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
I think the $100 price difference will attract the shallowest people, if anything.spoiler: gamers are shallow
will be interesting to see how this data translates into sales, but I really doubt it means anything
Teletraan1
Banned
Yeah like MS hasn't put out products that failed after very successful products (Win7->Win8) before with vast marketing budgets. I remember MS was practically giving away Win8 to anyone who had Win7 and the adoption rate is lower than Vista.
Not to mention other products like Surface and Zune that were heavily marketed and nobody wanted. They don't have some sort of apple brand loyalty and fanatical hype that would allow them to do what they are doing at least I hope not for the sake of consumers in 21 countries.
Well, now I finally understand fully why people have as big of an issue with the DualShock as they do: because they hold their controllers
So what you're saying is that if we divide by everything that is fine, than nothing is wrong?
boredandlazy
Member
I'd say not buying a single game and not buying a $500 console are slightly different propositions. Especially considering ~85% of games will appear on both platforms.
Captain Tuttle
Member
This is exactly how I feel, I love the 360 controller and the One's looks fantastic with that improved D-Pad.
The DS4 looks adequate, certainly an improvement over the DS3. Here's hoping third parties can bring something of quality to the table with offset sticks. If not, I'm sure the DS4 will be fine, at least it looks to be designed for adults.
HawksWinStanley
Member
Yeah but I'm sure they would've still looked just like this since Sony was coming off the dominant PS2 and MS was coming off the original Xbox.
If games use the controllers touchpad and features you're gonna have to.
SanguineShark
Member
Makes me a little sad to see Amazon take it down before the date. Amazon has no real reason to do it, but perhaps a little pressuring from MS could influence that decision.
I was hoping not to see as many of these shady business practices this generation. Guess that was too hopeful.
I was hoping not to see as many of these shady business practices this generation. Guess that was too hopeful.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
maybe pre-price reveal of the PS3, but there's no way in hell if there was a poll after that $599 bomb.
Dear god, those first 4 look uncomfortable.
After all these years, I have come to realize that I am in the minority, but the DualShocks have been perfect. Without a doubt the best controllers I have ever used. Unlike most people, I find the Xbox ones just fucking ridiculously huge and impossible to hold, and if I tried to hold it like in the first 4 pics, I think my wrist would cramp up in 10 minutes. Those are the oddest pictures I've ever seen, outside the people who used to hold NES controllers literally upside down.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
I still find it amazing how people cannot adjust to both. I have always done it automatically without thought. Grip the 360 controller fairly tightly, let the DS3 "sit" inbetween my hands.
That said, ive never got the criticisms about L2/R2 either.
no they did not... they were pretty even back then....
I don't like the fact that the L2/R2 can easily trigger when I set the controller down for any reason. Other than that I think they are fine.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I don't understand how a controller doesn't work (it just takes a few days to get used to it). The only controllers that I felt a bit different was the 64's, Dreamcast, and the original Duke. But I was a person who thought the dualshock was amazing when I first felt it. Sony has to reach the controller-peeve with a change in the sticks. Which I think is what has happened. If not it will fit more space in your hand. You can tell when people don't like the dualshock. Its a major complaint with MS fans.
SirMossyBloke
Member
The fact that people need to offer instructions on how to hold the ds3 explains a lot.
Sounds good to me
Phawx
Member
I prefer the Analog-Dominant (360 controller) style. I don't hold a DS3 like that.
I'm happy all of the changes were made to the DS3. The convex nature of the sticks and the triggers made me feel like the controller didn't even really want me holding it.
Having said that, I'm so glad they fixed the dpad on the Xbox One.
I'm happy all of the changes were made to the DS3. The convex nature of the sticks and the triggers made me feel like the controller didn't even really want me holding it.
Having said that, I'm so glad they fixed the dpad on the Xbox One.
Huh? When you do that, it falls more into place like how the "correct" images show. The DS position is the most extended and forced position by far.
from: http://www.psu.com/forums/showthread.php/184932-My-PS3-and-360-controller-Comparison by user Airmaxx23
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
why would you set the controller down when the game is unpaused?
I've never understood the complaint about the DS controllers, I can play all day and it's fine. But really, the strange thing about the complaint is if you believe where the left stick is on the 360 pad is the 'default' place your thumb falls, it means that the opposite side is wrong, because your hands are the same mirrored, if the left stick is correct, the right stick needs to be where the facebuttons are.
Phawx
Member
It's about dominance. Not about symmetry. It's not until I typed that sentence did it make sense where the personal choice come in.
Every time I talked to DS3-pro people, it's always about symmetry.
Captain Tuttle
Member
See, the Dual Shock was designed back when the D-Pad was the dominant input for the left thumb. And where is it? Offset. Now games have changed and the sticks are the primary input but Sony hasn't adapted the controller.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Yeah, I'm starting to think that PS4 might actually outsell Xbox at launch with some pretty massive lead. I've just returned from local Best Buy and Future shop here in Canada, and they were already all sold out of PS4 preorders, while they each had at least 30 preorder cards left for Xbone. Best Buy especially had so many spots on their preorder wall each occupied with a bunch of Xbox preorder cards. Combined with reports that all stores received double preorder allowances of PS4 as they did for Xbox, this was such a bizarre sight for Canada, which is very much an Xbox-land.
The right stick is usually reserved for camera and such, it's nowhere near as important as the left one. Most games pretty much only use the left stick, while the right stick is used 'occasionally' to adjust camera. It's not important enough to stick it in a dominant position, certainly not more important than the buttons on the right side. Using the most comfortable grip, your fingers line up exactly with the most important buttons in most types of games.
The shoulder buttons are also uncomfortably placed on the DS3. With the Xbox Controller, you only have to alternate between the buttons and the right stick (Which isn't very uncomfortable.) to move the camera around; all the other buttons are right in your grip. With the DS, you have to reach for the shoulder buttons, and when you also have to control the sticks like in any FPS, it becomes quite uncomfortable if I remember correctly. Racing games are the worst though.
Uno Venova
Banned
i would get on this thumbstick argument but i'll really lay my thoughts out on the sixth one in 2019.
DC1
Member
Again...how can the stick be perfectly ergonomical for the right hand, but not for the left?
Your use-comfort =! Perfectly ergonomical.
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