I'm sorry you feel that way but clearly you have a different definition of good exclusives than most people.
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PS4 is quite the engineering marvel
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I'm sorry you feel that way but clearly you have a different definition of good exclusives than most people.
gaming laptops make a lot of noise
VanquishUK
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I'm a PC gamer who prefers playing on PC, but I also buy all the consoles for the great exclusives. I don't discriminate, but I still don't see how the PS4 is an "engineering marvel".
I think people really are misusing the phrase.
scrapplejoe
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I miss the faceplate days...
I loved my eagles faceplate on my 360
I loved my eagles faceplate on my 360
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Ive had 2 PS3s die on me due to system updates.
MidgarBlowedUp
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Yeah, and in a year they are coming out with 16GBGDDR8+Titan2GPU+UltraMicroBRDrive where the whole thing is the size of a quarter and it runs off of a hearing aid battery.
fatgamecat
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Uhh what? That was supposed to be positive for the PS4. Is it ok to personally attack people for posting their thoughts on hardware and video games?
Krisprolls
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I actually wish PC gamers had more games to play, they would spend less time shitting every console thread.
I own a gaming PC and a PS3, I mostly play on PS3 but I don't go in every PC thread talking about PS3 exclusives. It would probably be annoying.
I own a gaming PC and a PS3, I mostly play on PS3 but I don't go in every PC thread talking about PS3 exclusives. It would probably be annoying.
That's pure speculation, we know neither system's loudness. For all we know, Microsoft chose cheap and loud while Sony chose more expensive and quieter.
Constantly repeating this doesn't make it true you know.
Gumbie
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You forgot, "And I bought 500 games on Steam for $20!"
So when did you get hands-on with both systems? We have loads of questions to ask you then...
Size and space are two factors in noise but by no means an indication that one is louder than the other when there's so many other factors involved, especially when Sony has proven to have some engineering prowess and have mostly been more reliable in the past.
hemtae
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I actually wish console gamers had more games to play, they would spend less time with an annoying persecution complex in every hardware thread.
Although this thread did get shitted up pretty badly probably by the PC crowd.
So long as my PS4 doesn't crap out on me in a year like my 360 and PS3 (although the PS3 was used) then it will be an engineering marvel enough for me.
I don't know. I just want my games to run right. I have a nice laptop with a 7970M card and playing Bully it has a stutter that happens once every second, as if it's not spitting out 60hz like my TV expects. GTAIV doesn't run very well either, and it really should based on my hardware and indoors in certain cutscenes, the lighting is blinding and washes all the characters out to the point where I can't tell what's going on. All the lighting looks washed out in Borderlands 2. Sleeping Dogs at medium settings should be smooth as butter but it's not. It stutters in spots.
It just always feels unoptimized unless you throw a ton of hardware at certain games. And PC is my primary gaming machine. I guess it could be because AMD cards and Sager laptops have an issue of not properly handing off from the intel chip to the AMD chip and many games run 1/3 slower than they should (something with Enduro and power saving). I never expected that in a laptop which should "work out of the box".
It just always feels unoptimized unless you throw a ton of hardware at certain games. And PC is my primary gaming machine. I guess it could be because AMD cards and Sager laptops have an issue of not properly handing off from the intel chip to the AMD chip and many games run 1/3 slower than they should (something with Enduro and power saving). I never expected that in a laptop which should "work out of the box".
Well said.
My rig is terrific too, mainly because my work, but ... wow, 1400h in Dota 2 are a lot !
I have around 50h and I feel to play this game too much !
Anyway, the hardware and the price of the Ps4 is almost a no brain purchase.
I can't remember the last PC tech demo, but then I really haven't looked into that in a while as they're usually produced for cards from nVidia or AMD.
The Jason
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Wow this thread is a mess. The the first reply was actually beside the point (not on topic). The OP was not saying the the specs are incredible, he was saying the size makes it an engineering marvel. He was clearly speaking in reference to the Xbone.
Please stop the PC vs PS4 shit. At least its a little better than the bone.
Please stop the PC vs PS4 shit. At least its a little better than the bone.
lol wtf
Cizeta-Moroder
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Tech demos' representative values vary. With fixed camera(?) a lot of things can be prerendered/approximated in various ways.
anexanhume
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System is 130W-160W I'd bet.
MidgarBlowedUp
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MidgarBlowedUp
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Many/All games prerender/approximate many things or they simply would not run to begin with.
Why is the Xbox One bigger? This is how it looks inside:
i really like the way the internals are in the XB1... looks really easy to mod or fix when it RROD's
Where did you heard this info?
Share the insider knowledge
dragonelite
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That how air cooling works on pc.
Bigger fans can rotate slower to move a x amount of air. Because they rotate slower they also make less sound. Smaller fans have to rotate faster to displace the same x amount of air. And because they rotate faster the make more sound.
Off course everything depends on the quality and design of the cooling system. And how much space is reserved for it.
Microsoft seems to have chosen quiet a fan and cool block probably why the height is double that of the ps4
So we wont really know before launch unless microsoft feels its a point worth showing. Or the tech sites can test both console before launch.
Thaumaturgic Tomato
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That Xbone fan is the Citizen Kane of coolers
airmangataosenai
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Let this forever stand as a lesson for why you should read the OP.
Oh my. When are those things gonna be affordable
It may run on your current card, I could run it on my 680 although obviously not as smooth as the Titan:
http://www.nvidia.com/coolstuff/demos#!/lifelike-human-face-rendering
BruiserBear
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Tales from my ass
The system is beautiful no doubt.
I'm still a junior member and can't post new threads to ask, and I'm not sure where else I can ask this question where it makes sense (and my search didn't find a thread on this). BUT, does anyone know if you can install a PS4 game on the console and not have to use the disc again?
That was my biggest annoyance this generation. I want all my games on the drive accessible whenever I want them. I don't wanna dig up discs every time I want to play them.
I'm still a junior member and can't post new threads to ask, and I'm not sure where else I can ask this question where it makes sense (and my search didn't find a thread on this). BUT, does anyone know if you can install a PS4 game on the console and not have to use the disc again?
That was my biggest annoyance this generation. I want all my games on the drive accessible whenever I want them. I don't wanna dig up discs every time I want to play them.
That is a single head. PS4 renders the whole body, 2 more heads, and 2 more bodies, and real time 3d backgrounds all at better quality.
Games will install in the background while you play but you need to keep the disc in the drive (if the disc were not in the drive, you end up with a situation like the XBone with online licenses)
if you want all games on the hard drive with no discs, you can buy every game day 1 as a digital download.
Fair enough. I'm just trying to plan my launch day for both consoles. And considering the servers will be murdered that day, I'm thinking downloading games will be a nightmare.
So I wanted to buy a couple discs initially. But then I thought how annoying if I'm finally building my DD library and wanted to play one of my launch games.
But I guess I'll just have to hope for the best and download everything from the get go
Hooflung128
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While the jaguar is a really great CPU and will do great in the new consoles it technically is a CPU aimed at the market net books once slotted. It is basically a Athlon XP with modern bells and whistles: memory type, SIMD and 64 bit instructions. It is also a bulk silicon chip meaning it is also designed to compete with high end arm.
blitzcloud
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I think you got those figures wrong
jesus what is wrong with me and maths lately, lol. I guess it's because my brain broke after. 9000cm^3
and so on.
BurnOutBrighter
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Like every Xbox, the Xbone looks like a PC laid sideways.
A MacBook air packs way better tech and components in a slimmer better looking package.
Second post is accurate.
