IncandescentPrecept
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Is Atlus a profitable company? I mean the video games side.
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Index (Atlus) entering into a restructuring bankruptcy; looking to transfer/sell
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they sure haven't shown it then. in the last five years they've made a spinoff and an update to persona 4, and remade older persona games without delivering a persona 5, while they've made:
devil survivor
strange journey
etrian odyssey iii
radiant historia
nora to toki no kobo
devil survivor 2
etrian odyssey iv
shin megami tensei iv
trauma team
and that's on top of remaking etrian odyssey i, the devil survivor games, and soul hackers.
i'm just saying that if their meat and potatoes is persona, they sure have a funny way of showing it.
yes. in fact, apparently it was the only positive light out of the corruption ordeal.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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mysteriousmage09
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Will be interesting to see who goes for Atlus once Index is out of the picture.
Pretty sure they print money...(games, but idk dev costs)
i mean they seem to have done well... their games dont exactly sell past like 800k or something but i dont think they were ever disappointed by it
they certainly made a profit.
Maybe if Tecmo got them they'd actually have an active American division again, whereas SE would definitely wipe it out and probably start neglecting to bring games over. Though I could Tecmo being dumb and wiping out the American division despite effectively not having one. Still, that's an area where I can actually be optimistic, especially as it'd undoubtedly do a lot of good for Europe.
buddha0991
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I always saw Devil Survivor as the Majin Tensei successor, but most people say who played MjT that those games are just only ok, and unoriginal, while Devil Survivor at least tries its own ideas.
lmfao Dantis is cant imagine how you must feel
AkimbO_Arcana
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+1 for Nintendo takeover.
Only japanese pub with a competent european branch.
EDIT guess Bamco would be okay too.
Only japanese pub with a competent european branch.
EDIT guess Bamco would be okay too.
Augemitbutter
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let's hope Dragon's Crown is save. i can do without all the other games right now.
Blood Diamonds
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Is Carherine a spin off of Persona?
Well that's convenient for your argument. Meanwhile people with stable arguments can easily see that Persona is not nessecarily an exclusive argument.
ULTROS!
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I kinda want Namco Bandai though. I know they don't actively destroy their IPs and they have a very decent European branch.
#TeamNamcoBandai
Ideally someone outside of the video game industry would buy "Atlus", replace the Index management and continue the operation without interfering too much. It's a really solid business, so it'd be preferable if someone buys it who's not going to plan to reorganize and realign the whole company.
I don't think any of these companies are a good fit, since I can't imagine that any of those would allow Atlus to do its own thing. Not to mention that all of these have their own international branches, so what would happen to Atlus USA?
Philosophy wise I wouldn't be too upset over a Nintendo acquisition. I'm quite satisfied with the way Monolith seems to be managed nowadays and I think there's a good chance that Atlus would more or less continue as they are doing today. Since Atlus is quite hesitant to develop on more powerful platforms, I don't think it would be a huge loss to see them only on Wii U either. However, since Nintendo has absolutely no use for a 3rd party like Atlus USA, that's at the same time also the worst case scenario.
Really great. Really happy with the direction this has taken.
;_;
Nope.
Nope nope nope nope nope nope.
Eternal hole of pain never to be filled?
Right. The issue wouldn't be buying Atlus. Atlus amounts to a name and a pretty logo. What you want are the IPs and the development staff.
Atlus is a word on the box. Index can take that to their grave. I don't care.
I do expect we'll see SOMETHING, at worst akin to the vultures preying on the corpse we saw with the death of THQ.
I said in an earlier thread that I'd rather it wasn't a platform holder, but I'd far rather it be a platform holder than the current situation.
If anything P4A is spin-off a game that bridges Persona 3 with Persona 4, it focuses more on P3 characters in P4 environment.
The implication of the type of bankruptcy they filed for is that Index as a whole would be profitable minus some or all of its loan payments.
buddha0991
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If they get the dev teams, but not the IP, and are forced to redo all their lore and get rid of almost 20 years of world and lore building, I am out. I do not want to play a "Megaten" game that has no Jack Frost or has a fake one, Jeraldo Freezing or some shit.
there is some subtle P1/2 stuff in there too
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Lol what?
They don't? Do you know a different Namco? Because the Namco I'm thinking of would destroy them and have the shittiest devs cranking out games until they don't sell anymore.
AkimbO_Arcana
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vagabondarts
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Watch SquareEnix buy them out and then release all their IP as shoddy iPhone games.
Yay?
Yay?
If only for the meltdowns and tears
I want Atlus games on my Vita too...
>_>
<_<
GungHo it is then
zerokoolpsx
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So did shit hit the fan? Looks like it did.
Hours Left
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What if some non-gaming company buys them as their foray into the biz?
Delusibeta
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If I was a betting man, assuming I had a clause that the bet is invalid if Index didn't get bought out: I would put money on GungHo attempting a takeover.
P4A was developed by Arc Systemworks. It doesn't count.
It's going to be difficult. Index has shuffled the developers into their corporate structure, so any spin-off of Atlus you'll need to surgically remove them from the rest of Index,
P4A was developed by Arc Systemworks. It doesn't count.
It's going to be difficult. Index has shuffled the developers into their corporate structure, so any spin-off of Atlus you'll need to surgically remove them from the rest of Index,
Yeah because nobody wants the Persona Team to work on something new like Catherine again.
Oh wait.
zerokoolpsx
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Upper management by Index most likely.
Yep, this.
Although I must say, for as much as people love to say, "Atlus didn't release any current-gen games this gen except for Catherine!", Nintendo buying them would make that trend permanent. Tragic irony there.
IrishNinja
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for real, what's the downside in the nintendo hypothetical? are some of ya'll still thinking their censorship policies are like the 80s or is this herp derp they'll make jack frost mario games or what
...so you'd rather they go to someone who can't fund them, or perhaps die as an alternative? i see you're crazy outside of yakuza threads as well man
kyons you cannot be serious
...so you'd rather they go to someone who can't fund them, or perhaps die as an alternative? i see you're crazy outside of yakuza threads as well man
kyons you cannot be serious
buddha0991
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Oh come on Dantis, you know what I mean. I don't want them to make what would basically be a Persona successor, if they made some awesome new IP's, I would be all in you dolt, but if they made Persona 5 without the Persona or the 5, that would be stupid.
encephalon
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Thanks for the responses guys. /lazy Yes, I do ninja edit my posts. >_>;
Anyways, I may have found a relevant link
So is the company going to be run by an interim trustee for now?
"To protect the depletion of the debtor's assets, and to facilitate the business reorganization of the debtor, the court allows the business to sell all or part of its business before the plan is confirmed."
So until the creditors can agree on the BK Plan (because this is where the attorneys for various creditors argue with each other), index has a chance to offload ATLUS? Unless the interim period is over. Given that this news is new, I'm guessing it's not ... But then again criminal behavior is involved ...
Anyways, I may have found a relevant link
So is the company going to be run by an interim trustee for now?
"To protect the depletion of the debtor's assets, and to facilitate the business reorganization of the debtor, the court allows the business to sell all or part of its business before the plan is confirmed."
So until the creditors can agree on the BK Plan (because this is where the attorneys for various creditors argue with each other), index has a chance to offload ATLUS? Unless the interim period is over. Given that this news is new, I'm guessing it's not ... But then again criminal behavior is involved ...
If they get sold, this is probably the most likely outcome, considering Index's nature.
Index' upper management were corrupt and did illegal stuff.
rockman zx
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How big is Atlus?.
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