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[Polari]

Meanwhile her attacker got just over a year...

Woman jailed for reporting rape

A Norwegian woman who reported to police in Dubai that she’d been raped while on a business trip in the fast-growing Gulf city ended up being jailed herself. Her sentence is longer than her convicted rapist’s.

The 25-year-old’s trip to Dubai in March turned into a nightmare after she reported the rape and was jailed for having had sex outside of marriage and for drinking alcohol. Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) reported that her passport was seized and she wasn’t allowed to borrow a telephone for three days. Then she called her family in Norway.
They mobilized the Foreign Ministry, and Norway’s consulate in Dubai managed to get her out of jail and housed at the local Norwegian Seamans Church, where she remained until her sentence recently was handed down: prison for one year and four months. Her attacker was sentenced to one year and one month, Anniken Meling of the Seamans Church told NRK.

The foreign ministry reported that Norway has no extradition treaty with Dubai, which was described as a Muslim police state. That means tourists and visitors are usually safe as long as they follow local laws. They include laws against extra-marital sex and drinking outside of restaurants and bars in the biggest hotels, leaving rape victims vulnerable. An appeal was pending.

http://www.newsinenglish.no/2013/07/17/woman-jailed-for-reporting-rape/

Similar story happened to an Australian gang rape victim recently. She spent eight months in prison:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ailed-for-8-months-for-sex-outside-marriage/#

Just remember when you visit Dubai you're supporting these kind of human rights abuses.

 

[Omegasquash]

The logic behind this type of "justice" is mind boggling.

 

[Mr-Joker]

Oh Dubai, why are you so backward and stupid? The woman shouldn't going to jail for something that isn't her fault.

 

[kurisu1974]

I never got the appeal of these oil states. I'm keeping my distance.

 

[SmokyDave]

I feel aggrieved that my first response to the thread title was 'why the fuck would you report a rape in Dubai?!'.

What a fucking shithole.

 

[zma1013]

You know, I don't even get surprised by stories like these, and that makes me sad.

 

[Squirrel Killer]

The UN should step in.

 

[Phat Michael]

Just remember when you visit Dubai you're supporting these kind of human rights abuses.

well that's ridiculous. so when I visited America last year I'm supporting guys being armed killing black teenagers and getting off Scott free? of course not. this thing is terrible but don't paint the whole country because of something like this.

 

[chickdigger802]

women can't drink alcohol there?

Isn't that suppose to be a tourist place?

 

[Omegasquash]

The UN should step in.

And risk all that money/oil?

 

[electristan]

Have been reading about this today, terrible.

Over the last year or so with stories like this, and Zimmerman like decisions in courts around the world I'm making a mental list of places were justice is broken and I never want to associate with.

 

[archnemesis]

Just remember when you visit Dubai you're supporting these kind of human rights abuses.

Exactly. That's why I'm not planning to visit the place anytime soon. Western governments should warn their citizens from visiting these countries until they get their laws updated to 21st century standards.

 

[Septimius]

Well, I'm staying the hell away from those countries.

 

[vas_a_morir]

well that's ridiculous. so when I visited America last year I'm supporting guys being armed killing black teenagers and getting off Scott free? of course not. this thing is terrible but don't paint the whole country because of something like this.

lol. This is such a sycophantic try-hard GAF post.

Well, I'm staying the hell away from those countries.

They don't want Ornstein there, anyway.

 

[ComputerMKII]

But it's not her fault if she was raped

 

[Carbonox]

I would love to visit Dubai but these places support barbarian laws that have no place in the modern world. It's saddening.

 

[Polari]

well that's ridiculous. so when I visited America last year I'm supporting guys being armed killing black teenagers and getting off Scott free? of course not. this thing is terrible but don't paint the whole country because of something like this.

Let's keep that to the appropriate threads. How do you justify this from a moral perspective? The Dubai government is abusing rape victims.

 

[electristan]

well that's ridiculous. so when I visited America last year I'm supporting guys being armed killing black teenagers and getting off Scott free? of course not. this thing is terrible but don't paint the whole country because of something like this.

I feel you have to draw the limit somewhere, and these type of law are one of mine.

 

[zma1013]

Wait wait, so if I understand this correctly, the rapist DOESN'T have to abide by the same "sex out of marriage" law as the woman? What I mean to say is, there is this law that says a person can't have sex outside of a marriage and so the dude both raped her and violated this law so he should have 2 charges on him, oh why am I even trying to bother with their dumb ass laws the men over there obviously just do whatever they want?

 

[tino]

Welcome to the middle age.

It's the real life version of the Medieval World (TM) from the imaginary mind of Michael Crichton!

 

[vas_a_morir]

But it's not her fault if she was raped

I know. Olympics incoming?

 

[MikeDip]

Absolutely disgusting, no other way to put it. I don't give a damn about their culture, they have it wrong.

 

[BertramCooper]

Let's keep that to the appropriate threads. How do you justify this from a moral perspective? The Dubai government is abusing rape victims.

Easy!

Occupation:
Marketing Manager - Dubai Government

 

[Phat Michael]

Let's keep that to the appropriate threads. How do you justify this from a moral perspective? The Dubai government is directly perpetrating heinous human rights abuses.

I'm not justifying it. I think it's abhorrent. but I don't judge a country by its laws/crimes etc.

for example, I love Singapore, but I do not support the death penalty for drugs or anything like this.

it's a shame this happens because it gives the city a bad name when there are a lot of terrific reasons to live her. I don't think anyone in their right mind can advocate this kind of thing its awful.

 

[Septimius]

well that's ridiculous. so when I visited America last year I'm supporting guys being armed killing black teenagers and getting off Scott free? of course not. this thing is terrible but don't paint the whole country because of something like this.

What do you think happened if westerners didn't take jobs or travel to the United Arab Emirates? Their economies would take a huge hit. Huge hit. What do you think they'd have to reconsider if no one went there because of the backward laws?

So yeah, you are supporting it when you go there. The Martin case is a false equivalency for many reasons. The law stating that you can be convicted for sex outside marriage when you're raped is an actual thing. That's not something to support. If you believe that the 'stand your ground' law in Florida is absurd and backwards, you'd do good not to support that, too. Since it's a state law, you could still support America. All depending on how much you care.

But don't fool yourself that you aren't fueling the economy of the Arab emirates when you're traveling there. And you say you don't judge a country by its laws? That's probably the most tangible thing you could ever judge a country based upon.

 

[I H8 Memes]

Basically, from the west coast of Africa to the eastern border of Pakistan, there is no place that I would ever travel to.

 

[womfalcs3]

Given that drinking alcohol is not prohibited in Dubai, the article's credibility is revoked after the third sentence. I wouldn't be surprised if it either captured the details of the story inaccurately or if it is purposely/deceptively being one-sided.

 

[Pyramid head]

well that's ridiculous. so when I visited America last year I'm supporting guys being armed killing black teenagers and getting off Scott free? of course not. this thing is terrible but don't paint the whole country because of something like this.

Are there some parts of the country where people need not be concerned about these vile, backwards, misogynistic laws?

 

[Phat Michael]

Easy!

Occupation:
Marketing Manager - Dubai Government

don't be stupid I just said I hate this stuff and don't advocate it all. just because I live some where does not mean I agree with all their laws and policies.

 

[Polari]

I'm not justifying it. I think it's abhorrent. but I don't judge a country by its laws/crimes etc.

for example, I love Singapore, but I do not support the death penalty for drugs or anything like this.

it's a shame this happens because it gives the city a bad name when there are a lot of terrific reasons to live her. I don't think anyone in their right mind can advocate this kind of thing its awful.

You can understand that people might not want to support the Dubai government by visiting as a result of these policies though? Tourism is important to Dubai, right? So if we vote with our dollars and feet they might change their minds.

 

[1.21Gigawatts]

Fucked up people everywhere...
Do they really think what they are doing is just? Nobody can't be that stupid.

 

[yogloo]

This type of shit makes my blood boil.

 

[Can Crusher]

Maybe in some areas of the world, people really only use 10% of their brain.

 

[BertramCooper]

don't be stupid I just said I hate this stuff and don't advocate it all. just because I live some where does not mean I agree with all their laws and policies.

Then don't vilify people who justifiably choose not to support your government by visiting or living there.

 

[Theorymon]

This is really fucked up. I don't get it, how on earth can a court justify sending a rape victim to jail because "she wasn't married."?

 

[Phat Michael]

You can understand that people might not want to support the Dubai government by visiting as a result of these policies though? Tourism is important to Dubai, right? So if we vote with our dollars and feet they might change their minds.

of course I have no problem with that. tourism is very important to Dubai so when stuff like this happens it really hurts the economy and reputation.

for some of us, this is home now and I hate hearing these stories as even if there is more to it, it's disgusting and not right. there are many lovely people and practices here but when something like this happens it makes the area look so backward.

 

[Septimius]

don't be stupid I just said I hate this stuff and don't advocate it all. just because I live some where does not mean I agree with all their laws and policies.

If you live somewhere, you are a citizen. As a citizen of a democratic country, you have every right to affect the laws of that country. But you can't travel to another country and protest their laws. So this is basically "voting with your wallet".

So no, where you live is 'not your fault' and you can fight for change if you feel your country needs some. But you are supporting a country when you decide to spend money there.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

You can understand that people might not want to support the Dubai government by visiting as a result of these policies though? Tourism is important to Dubai, right? So if we vote with our dollars and feet they might change their minds.

Tourism is just for extra stuff, the oil is where the real $$$ is at.

 

[waypoetic]

Lol. Politics?! It's spelled religion.

 

[Polari]

Tourism is just for extra stuff, the oil is where the real $$$ is at.

I'm under the impression that Dubai is trying to establish itself as a financial and tourism centre long-term, as the oil - as great as it is - will only last so long.

 

[Phat Michael]

Tourism is just for extra stuff, the oil is where the real $$$ is at.

dubai has no oil mate.

 

[Septimius]

of course I have no problem with that. tourism is very important to Dubai so when stuff like this happens it really hurts the economy and reputation.

for some of us, this is home now and I hate hearing these stories as even if there is more to it, it's disgusting and not right. there are many lovely people and practices here but when something like this happens it makes the area look so backward.

Being a citizen is different from being a tourist. But also, deciding to become a citizen of another country is very, very much supporting their laws and societal structures. You think "this seems like a good place to live. I'll do that" and think that's disparate from the laws of the country?

 

[1.21Gigawatts]

This is really fucked up. I don't get it, how on earth can a court justify sending a rape victim to jail because "she wasn't married."?

Because of a certain book and their fucked up "interpretation" of it.

 

[inky]

Disgusting.

 

[agrajag]

The whole extradition thing is unfortunate. Norway should still try to fight for one of its citizens. These backwards ass countries need to join the rest of us in the 21st century.

 

[dark10x]

of course I have no problem with that. tourism is very important to Dubai so when stuff like this happens it really hurts the economy and reputation.

for some of us, this is home now and I hate hearing these stories as even if there is more to it, it's disgusting and not right. there are many lovely people and practices here but when something like this happens it makes the area look so backward.

Pretty much.

The actions of the government in any country don't necessarily represent the feelings and attitudes of the people at large, but when those idiotic policies start treading on the rights of people un-related to that society it really paints a negative picture.

Because of a certain book and their fucked up "interpretation" of it.

People should never be "ruled by religion". For those of us who do not follow any organized religion it's particularly insulting. I don't believe in your made up fairy tales, don't subject me to your bullshit laws based on those "beliefs".

 

[Hypereides]

Dohoho!

Talk about throwing logic outta the window Dubai. It's like they're rewarding the offender for his crime. His shorter sentence is in reality an implied bro-fist from the Dubai ministry of justice.

 

[Polari]

of course I have no problem with that. tourism is very important to Dubai so when stuff like this happens it really hurts the economy and reputation.

for some of us, this is home now and I hate hearing these stories as even if there is more to it, it's disgusting and not right. there are many lovely people and practices here but when something like this happens it makes the area look so backward.

I hope you express your opposition locally as well, as Edmund Burke said, all that the triumph of evil requires is good men doing nothing.

 

[Mr-Joker]

Tourism is just for extra stuff, the oil is where the real $$$ is at.

Yeah but that oil isn't going to last forever, though that point Dubai will so rich that they won't give a crap.

 

[Red Liquorice]

The "logic" is to scare rape victims away from reporting the crime.