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F'DUPTON 3: Back in the Tub with 5.0/5.5/6/7/several Inches of RAM-Flavoured Water

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thuway

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beast786 said:
How can this be not disappointing. we went from 7 to 4.5?

I am still buying ps4 day one. But , being half of what I thought Naughty gods had to play with is disappointing. personally I don't care for fancy OS. just give me best eye candy on the games in open world
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Beast:

You assumed the PS4 had 7 GB of RAM available to gameOS. It was never official, just a number people wanted to throw around. C'mon mang :/.
 
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casmith07

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One last post before I jetpack outta this thread for good...

...did people really cancel their preorders over a Digital Foundry rumor?
 
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LeeFowler.CU

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DragonSworne said:
Sony isn't going to can bounce hard number yet because MS might plan on changing their RAM figures in response.

Sony wants MS to screw themselves by dedicating too much RAM to their bloated 3 OS causing their games to be gimped.

Sony is playing it smart, Eurogamer is playing it dumb.
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So wait. When Microsoft makes a 3 GB OS on a console it's "bloated" and makes it a media box and not a console but when Sony makes a 3.5 GB OS on a console is "smart" and "future-proof"?

C'mon now, we all know the PS4 is gonna be a great games box but there's no need to actively shill for it.

casmith07 said:
One last post before I jetpack outta this thread for good...

...did people really cancel their preorders over a Digital Foundry rumor?
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Well some people thought that Microsoft reserving 3 GB for Operating System features meant that it was somehow "gimping" games, so when it became widely accepted that the ram split on the PS4 was 7-1 it seemed to play into the hype that Sony was doubling down on removing OS bloat so that games could be better. It influenced peoples purchasing decisions.
 
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harSon

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Nakazato said:
He an insider iirc so he is trusted

But is last of us looks that good with .25 video ram... im not worried in the least
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He also told us that Final Fantasy 15 was exclusive to the Playstation 4 and that Kingdom Hearts 3 would be following suit since Sony was in talks to nab it up as well.
 
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Pistolero

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beast786 said:
How can this be not disappointing. we went from 7 to 4.5?

I am still buying ps4 day one. But , being half of what I thought Naughty gods had to play with is disappointing. personally I don't care for fancy OS. just give me best eye candy on the games in open world
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We went from unknown and widely speculated to a more realistic 5 GB (minus, plus 0,5 GB).

People didn't even care if devs were happy with the rumored 5 GB. They just wanted PS4 to have a bigger number than Xbox One. It's why you are seeing so many people happy with 6GB.
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Truer words have never been spoken. It went from OMG! why 5,5 GB to Yes! 6 GB motherfu*****! As if those 500 MB were about to revolutionize the way 3D graphics are conceived.
It's merely a case of "my console of choice is ahead in every departement or I'm gonna bust in tears" syndrom.
 
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DragonSworne

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LeeFowler.CU said:
So wait. When Microsoft makes a 3 GB OS on a console it's "bloated" and makes it a media box and not a console but when Sony makes a 3.5 GB OS on a console is "smart" and "future-proof"?

C'mon now, we all know the PS4 is gonna be a great games box but there's no need to actively shill for it.
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PS4 has 6 GB for games. Nice try buddy. Go call someone else a shill.
 
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sunnz

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beast786 said:
How can this be not disappointing. we went from 7 to 4.5?

I am still buying ps4 day one. But , being half of what I thought Naughty gods had to play with is disappointing. personally I don't care for fancy OS. just give me best eye candy on the games in open world
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Cause, for the 1 millionth time, it was NEVER confirmed to be 7GB, just some rumour that you, me and many many other believed was official.

Not SONY's fault, it's ours for believing something that wasn't official.
 
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Daingurse

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Anhkow said:
ErntEPo.gif
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Oh god, this made me lol. Goodfellas is too good.
 
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amstradcpc

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thuway said:
Beast:

You assumed the PS4 had 7 GB of RAM available to gameOS. It was never official, just a number people wanted to throw around. C'mon mang :/.
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The thing is how much is real mem and how much virtual.If of the 6 GB 1 is virtual it is still not better than we thought in the beginning.
 
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chris0701

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JonathanPower said:
But now we also have a dev saying clearly the article is false and ridiculous. I think that's enough confirmation, ultil we hear something official from Sony.
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Why Sony didn't debunk the figure ? If there is nothing conflicted to their internal SDK guideline?

How the dev said the figure is wrong ? Wrong by what extent ? The ram usage definition or ram capacity ?
 
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harSon said:
He also told us that Final Fantasy 15 was exclusive to the Playstation 4 and that Kingdom Hearts 3 would be following suit since Sony was in talks to nab it up as well.
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He also explained that these deals were in progress when he heard them, and that Sony preferred not to buy exclusivity from them. But hey, who cares.
 
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chris0701

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How is the 6GB composition ?
4.5+0.5(flexible but virtual ram in harddisk)+1 (OS, but might be used by game)
=6

It is still 6GB, but only slightly better than DF report data.
 
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milsorgen

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lordchompy said:
I like how people keep saying something to the effect of 'we now have 6GB of RAM to work with,' as if they themselves were developing the games.

6GB, 5GB; just play the damn games and judge the textures when you see them.

Remember the days when console gamers didn't care so much, or even know about hardware specs? It's like for a few months Gafers the world over become PC hardware experts and act like they're upgrading their rigs. Both consoles are close enough in hardware strength to make the differences negligible.
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6 or 8 cylinders who cares!
 
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Shin

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And the confusion continues without any facts to go by...would have been great if Sony just said 6 for games 2 for OS and be over with it.
Still so damn close to Xbone reservation and that has all sorts of entertainment stuff going on, I'm not seeing as to why they would reserve so much.
Hopefully GC/TGS shed some light on more of PS4's features...
 
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Chrisness

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Sony's probably just playing it safe and waiting to see if they'll need the RAM to copy whatever Microsoft does (or Gaikai). You can always give developers more RAM later on, you can't take any away.
 
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DragonSworne

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chris0701 said:
Why Sony didn't debunk the figure ? If there is nothing conflicted to from their internal SDK guideline?

How the dev said the figure is wrong ? Wrong by what extent ? The ram usage definition or ram capacity ?
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Probably because Eurogamer never mentioned the RAM amount to Sony in their question, and only asked for clarification on the purpose of the flexible memory.

It is supported by the fact of Sony making no mention one way or the other amount the amount of RAM. At the very least they would have said no comment acknowledging they were asked the question.


Edit - so they say no comment. Missed that
 
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amstradcpc

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Arai said:
And the confusion continues without any facts to go by...would have been great if Sony just said 6 for games 2 for OS and be over with it.
Still so damn close to Xbone reservation and that has all sorts of entertainment stuff going on, I'm not seeing as to why they would reserve so much.
Hopefully GC/TGS shed some light on more of PS4's features...
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Wait till the start talking about GPU reservation.Then the flood will be Noe-ous.
 
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thuway

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Pistolero said:
Truer words have never been spoken. It went from OMG! why 5,5 GB to Yes! 6 GB motherfu*****! As if those 500 MB were about to revolutionize the way 3D graphics are conceived.
It's merely a case of "my console of choice is ahead in every departement or I'm gonna bust in tears" syndrom.
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You are ignoring the best argument:

fat-nerd-with-glasses_full.jpeg


"Since the PS4 does not give developer's all 8 GB of GDDR5 for games, it is not a true games machine. PS4 is really a faux media device parading itself as a gaming platform."

The ignorance on display when third parties are perfectly happy with the RAM given, first parties have yet to ask for any more, and when engineers went out of their way to insure an optimal development environment.
 
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nib95

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Where is the 6gb number coming from? That is s logical number for Sony to target given they can only access 5.86gb per second with a 30fps game given the consoles current bandwidth.
 
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