lol. Whatever the outcome of this one thing is for sure, this thread is fucking hilarious!
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F'DUPTON 3: Back in the Tub with 5.0/5.5/6/7/several Inches of RAM-Flavoured Water
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lol. Whatever the outcome of this one thing is for sure, this thread is fucking hilarious!
Then I'll respond to you for him:
Stop replying to people who ask for specific information when you have no idea as to what you're talking about. It's extremely off-putting and disingenuous.
LiquidMetal14
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Back in the tub!
lol this made me laugh more than I expected.
Considering it was announced at e3 that they would be coming to the Xbox One, it's unlikely that the decision to bring them to the console was made on a whim. That's the type of decision that's made at the beginning of a development cycle, or at the very least, months prior to the announcement.
The PS4 has better (faster) RAM, a better GPU, is cheaper.
Shin
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That is the question....Windows 8 vs BSD...so why does it need so much memory reserved (even if we might not need it now or ever).
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Deleted member 80556
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What, I'm sure that Shinobi never confirmed the RAM allocation, he simply explained the reasons if it really was done like that. He never said it was like that, don't put words in his mouth.
Also, the latest correction from Digital Foundry is from a B3D member, the same member who has been talking how MS will update their RAM to 12GB.
Coulomb_Barrier
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The last 3 DF have been Intresting
1). http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-xbox-one-memory-better-in-production-hardware
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3) Now this
That XbOne memory boost rumour has still not been corroborated by anyone outside DF's sources afaik.
What about the CPU?
BRUTALBOWN
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Guys get real, this is just some bullshit cg video that has no bearing on what the actual game will look or run like! This kind of crap has gone on in video games since day 0.
Capcom will have got virtually nowhere with development on this game, it will be a long time till it sees the light of day.
IonicSnake
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Identical if I'm not mistaken.
Exactly the same in both systems.
Bam Bam Baklava
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CG videos don't have obvious aliasing.
BruceLeeRoy
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You would think so but that is not the case. I know about games that had deals finalized the night before conventions. SE even said they hadn't looked at the XBONE architecture at E3 but that it would be added to the workflow.
Unnamed Sony employee who made a "no comment" comment to respond DF's ram capacity inquiry isn't the people you want to believe to.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Stop being deliberately obtuse.
It if were true, it would still be inferior to Sony's solution as well as speak to extreme incompetence in Microsoft's engineering team
Reading comprehension is really suffering these days.
Wow
This thread started of with less RAM for games on PS4.
It finish of with even less RAM for Xbox One - now with only 4,5GB.
And it also moves to 6GB RAM for games + 0.5GB + unlimited page file on PS4.
And now Pagefiles are something good..........
Wow people are really working hard make 1 article spin positive PS4 and negative Xbox One.....even when the article do not even mention Xbox One.
NeoGAF magic.....
Wait, canukians eat cereals? ;0
ChorusLindarr
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I think this is the only reasonable to take out of this entire fiasco.
Not only do they seem to know very little about the subjects they supposedly post as if being "authorities" on, they;re now actively promoting misinformation and parading it around as facts.
smh indeed.
Read my last post first and then come to conclusions.
Depends on how they render it. I guess if they wanted to intentionally trick people they could do it.
SEGAvangelist
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This crap again?
It's not because people wanted it to have a bigger number than the One. It is more along the lines of the One was criticised for using so much resources on non gaming functionality and was looked down upon for only having 5 GB available for games. Now Sony is speculated to potentially block off even MORE ram, all of a sudden the narrative changes that 4.5 is more than enough. There is NO reason a gaming machine should reserve 3.5 GB for the OS, especially when you are putting in expensive GDDR5 RAM. The Xbox One came out the gate for being a general purpose multimedia box, got roasted up and down about how all these resources were being used for everything but the games and Sony came out the gates boasting about being the machine for core gamers... so there is no reason for Sony to reserve as much if not more resources when their claim to fame is a focus on gaming.
Sure developers aren't complaining about the lack of RAM NOW, but 5 to 7 years down the line, the more resources they have at their disposal, the better. No developer will come close to maximizing a system in the first generation, especially when they are transitioning from previous generation's hardware and working within those limitations, but years into development, when they start pushing the system to the max, the more resources you give developers to push the system even further, the better. The less resources used for the OS and the more freed up for developers the better IMO.
Sure developers aren't complaining about the lack of RAM NOW, but 5 to 7 years down the line, the more resources they have at their disposal, the better. No developer will come close to maximizing a system in the first generation, especially when they are transitioning from previous generation's hardware and working within those limitations, but years into development, when they start pushing the system to the max, the more resources you give developers to push the system even further, the better. The less resources used for the OS and the more freed up for developers the better IMO.
And the missed Microsoft copyright in FF XV trailer.
BRUTALBOWN
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You can't honestly think that is for real!? looking like that at such an early stage with virtually no information about it!? nothing else looks anywhere near as good as this and they are out in a few months time!
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That game is coming if anything in fall 2014.
LeeFowler.CU
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I'm almost sure he did. It was in the Fridayton MKII thread which seems to have disappeared from the forum haha.
You'd have a point, but this is the quote:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62495686&postcount=345
In terms of Final Fantasy XV, that's about as hard lined a confirmation as you're going to get. I concede the Kingdom Hearts rumor, since in talks gives you wiggle room, but outright saying that Final Fantasy XV is exclusive and that Sony is helping with the development doesn't give you room for the game to all of a sudden be coming to the Xbox One.
MoonLightWave
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I think it actually was In-Engine realtime. However, there is much doubt it will be able to achieve it on consoles etc.
DragonSworne
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https://mobile.twitter.com/BriProv/status/361200597300543488
Brian Provinciano is a PS4 developer and says the article is ridiculous and false.
I'll trust a public source instead of unnamed ones.
SEGAvangelist
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Da fuq is this? Lol
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Deleted member 80556
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And I am sure he didn't. He said the person he talked to didn't want to give numbers, but that the people in the studio were very happy with the RAM allocation. That's all he said.
And then we've had 3 insiders saying that this supposed RAM allocation is false EDIT: so I don't know why you keep saying this.
Thuway? He's pretty on point the majority of the time, so that's good.
DragonSworne
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Yeah, why do you think it's a zoo in threads like these? MS has had such bad news that people are growing tired of even shitting on them. Now that Sony is also giving gamers ammunition to shit on someone, they're going crazy.
But make no mistake, the insanity is the same on both sides of the isle.
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