Barack Lesnar
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This game has some really sweet motion blur so if they can get it to a solid 30 fps it's going to play really smooth.
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Capcom: "We're targeting 30fps"; working with MS to improve Dead Rising 3
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RadarScope1
Member
Whoa. I saw this thread title a few hours ago and just assumed they meant 60 and it was another case of the OP messing up a thread title. Wow.
Am I the only one who isn't sensitive between 30fps and 60fps?
I have played games in both 30fps and 60fps, yes there is a difference, but it doesn't impact me at all what so ever.
Maybe the difference isn't so big between 30fps and 60fps on a HDTV, which is what I play on 99% of the time, compared to a PC monitor, I just ain't that sensitive to it, therefore don't care if the game is 30fps, as long as it doesn't fluctuate between 60fps and 30fps.
I have played games in both 30fps and 60fps, yes there is a difference, but it doesn't impact me at all what so ever.
Maybe the difference isn't so big between 30fps and 60fps on a HDTV, which is what I play on 99% of the time, compared to a PC monitor, I just ain't that sensitive to it, therefore don't care if the game is 30fps, as long as it doesn't fluctuate between 60fps and 30fps.
dragonbane
Member
Sounds pretty bad. Targeting 30 fps and not even 1080p native? Man...
Any word on the size of the world? Based on the previews, the zones didn't appear to be any larger than the previous games.
Templar_Dante
Banned
So..
Wait. You're telling me Capcom is locking down a 360 port at 30FPS on the Bone..
Wow.
Wait. You're telling me Capcom is locking down a 360 port at 30FPS on the Bone..
Wow.
IC_Champion
Member
Now all Capcom is known for is 30fps.
This is hilarious. Why can't they get their shit together?
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Delay the fucking game. Don't even release it until they improve the performance. Once its steady at 30fps then release.
Duxxy3
Member
Too much outsourcing.
Next gen baby. Until they require 1080p 60fps it will not happen except for a few games. Even for next next gen.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Yeah, hadn't heard this before? Just assuming it because of the screenshots?
IdreamofHIME
Member
30fps for this kind of game is ok, but it has to maintain that and be stable. No dips please.
I'm getting a bit sick of this '30fps is unacceptable' bullshit. As a PAL gamer of 30 years, I've seen it all. From slow NES conversons, to shitty Megadrive games, poor N64/PS1 conversions, Capcom's shitty PAL jobs on the PS2 and playing FFX with Tidus running like he's stuck in molasses.
People don't know how good they have it nowadays.
I'm getting a bit sick of this '30fps is unacceptable' bullshit. As a PAL gamer of 30 years, I've seen it all. From slow NES conversons, to shitty Megadrive games, poor N64/PS1 conversions, Capcom's shitty PAL jobs on the PS2 and playing FFX with Tidus running like he's stuck in molasses.
People don't know how good they have it nowadays.
poopninjamvc3mk
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30FPS and no native 1080p? Should've just kept it on 360.
Dynamic res is likely due to how some of the screen shots that capcom put out a day or so ago clearly show the game rendering at a much lower res (and I also saw way too much shimmering in some parts of the videos for it to be 1080p).
You have to remember though 30fps on a console game on a HDTV feels different (more like 40fps) compared to 30fps on a PC game with monitor
The 30fps example on the site above is worse then what a console game @ 30fps looks/feels.
I actually felt dizzy looking at that 30fps example on that site
Thanks for the site, it's really helpful
I know is not in topic but if I disable the motion blur 30fps and 60fps looks almost identical to me. Also both balls looks better without the motion blur to my eyes.
Moon_frogger
Member
Yes where it would have run at a speedy 15 frames per second and at an eye popping sub hd resolution. Seriously, nobody cares about the actual games anymore its just how many pixels it has and how many frames it runs at. Glorious.
Just sounds like very poor/lazy optimisation, as the new hardware can easily run this game at 30fps or above
FeiRR
Banned
I expect this question to pop up a lot next gen.
poopninjamvc3mk
I sucked six dicks to get this tag.
Lol wut? Excuse me for wanting more out of a new game on a new console that's about 10x more powerful.
I also love you how you do that typical nobody cares about the gameplay anymore, it's all about graphics complaint you see on blogs and in youtube comments. If I only cared about graphics then I damn sure wouldn't be playing all the nes,n64,ps1, dreamcast, and San Andreas on PS2(which is straight ugly with a terrible framerate) these past 2 weeks.
Moon_frogger
Member
It's a tradeshow demo is it not? Am I missing something? Is the Xbox one already out? Is this the release build? Also If people are expecting 60 fps and 1080p to be the standard this gen they are in for a disappointing gen.
What browser are you using? Some browsers are not very good at not sucking arse and displaying the frames at the correct time.
You have to remember though 30fps on a console game on a HDTV feels different (more like 40fps) compared to 30fps on a PC game with monitor
The 30fps example on the site above is worse then what a console game @ 30fps looks/feels.
I actually felt dizzy looking at that 30fps example on that site
No, 30FPS on a TV looks like 30FPS on a monitor.
Maybe they are going for the maximum amount of zombies and targeting 30 because at 60 they couldn't get the minimum number of zombies/effects they wanted?
That's my best guess.
While the object itself looked much clearer, it was significantly choppier, which wouldn't work well in a game. But to get a better comparison of how it would translate to a game, change the background to 60 FPS and 30 FPS. An object within a scene that's independently running at 30 FPS is not the same.
It's just a general example. It depends a lot on the content within the scene, what's going on, etc.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
No, people are expecting solid 30fps. Do we really need to keep going over this? The issue isn't 30fps. The issue is Capcom's inability to even reach 30fps, and it seeming more like a lofty goal than a guarantee.
Also for more people curious to compare FPS. I use this link below:
http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html
As you can see, 15fps has noticeable and irritating judder that is painful to watch. 30fps is much smooth and very common in all forms of media. 60fps is even smoother and idealized in gaming. If Capcom doesn't get their act together and hit 30fps, we're looking at a juddering mess of a game.
HORRORSHØW
Member
Some of the screens look decidedly last-gen:
Pearlito's Way
Neo Member
I don't get all the fuss. I'm sure he's speaking in terms of when there's so many zombies they fill the screen. I'm sure if there's just a few it's a non issue.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Grimløck;77860089 said:Some of the screens look decidedly last-gen:
This also happened last gen.
Gamescom demo. It was a totally new area and they claimed the build was a few weeks old.
This also happened last gen.
Thats a multiplayer shot.
ArkkAngel007
Member
That fact really doesn't matter to a lot of people. Framerate>everything else. If they can't reach the framerate with what they have, then they need to start cleaning house until they can meet it on a solid, consistent basis. Which is understandable, as far as having a locked or minimum 30 FPS set.
60 FPS is fantastic, but that should never, ever be a detriment to the rest of the game. I'd rather have a game pushing things gameplay-wise from various angles (with a solid 30 FPS) than a mutton 60 FPS experience.
RoboGeorgeForeman
Banned
No shit. But when the entire game's gimmick centers around overwhelming you and your survivors with as many zombies as possible that's a problem. Hell, the only time there aren't shittons of zombies on screen are during Psychopath boss battles.
As I've said, the issue now is that the game currently operates under 20 fps most of the time with persistent tearing. It's extremely choppy. Unplayably so right now.
I also questioned them on vsync and they didn't seem too certain that it would be enabled. They would like to do so, of course, but it may not be possible.
As long as it's steady. This gen thrived on 30 fps games and the next will survive it as well.
Posts like these are the reason I try to stay away from GAF at times. The outlandishly hyperbolic negativity can be like a pit of poison for morale sometimes.
Posts like these are the reason I try to stay away from GAF at times. The outlandishly hyperbolic negativity can be like a pit of poison for morale sometimes.
Duxxy3
Member
The infinite power of... delaying a game that just isn't finished.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
The Dead Rising games are not massive budget titles so perhaps the dev team working on it is quite small.
However it's a bit of a PR disaster to say they are targeting something like 30fps. But I'm sure the end game won't be a 'slideshow' though...
However it's a bit of a PR disaster to say they are targeting something like 30fps. But I'm sure the end game won't be a 'slideshow' though...
leatherhat
Member
I apologize if you already talked about it, but where did you play this?
nailbombxx
Member
The feel of 30fps
R10Neymarfan
Member
Won't this game eventually get a PC release?
One could only hope so because that will give 60fps
One could only hope so because that will give 60fps
cripterion
Member
Driveclub seemed to run smooth
I attended a presentation yesterday at Microsoft's Gamescom area. There were just 5 of us in the room as well so we had a very close look at the game.
There were 3 developers on hand and the demo lasted a good 20 minutes.
I actually thought the game looked really interesting and fun but the framerate is so low that I fear it will ruin the experience. It's just as bad as Far Cry 3 and Saint's Row 4 on consoles.
I'll have more to say about it once I compile my thoughts.
leatherhat
Member
Thanks! I look forward to reading what you have to say.