DeviantBoi
Member
The XBone's case looks so freaking huge that they could probably have fit a PC motherboard in there and try to pass it off as a retail unit.
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IGN: Sony has yet to show anything running on PS4, using PCs [actually Dev-kits]
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MaxwellParrish
Member
Off topic, but I hope this boot screen is only temporary and the retail PS4 is going to have something a little more elaborate or colour me dissapointed
Well Demon has spoken.just so that you know, test kits (not DevKits) are in the PS4 shell... and they've been in the office for a while
forgot to mention its the Xbox One inside
boredandlazy
Member
The fact it's even gotten to that point is embarrassing.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
And the size of the dev kits shouldn't be a concern, because it's simply much easier to throw the hardware in any case that can be properly ventilated, as long as the hardware inside is representative of what's going to be in the actual system. Why waste money for some super special and custom design for cases that are more or less just a means to an end so development can go forward unhindered?
So, I don't think anyone thinks Sony is secretly running stuff on more powerful PCs, but you would think after the reveal of the PS4 design, that you would see something resembling a PS4 retail unit at least once since both E3 and Gamescom running a single PS4 game.
So, I don't think anyone thinks Sony is secretly running stuff on more powerful PCs, but you would think after the reveal of the PS4 design, that you would see something resembling a PS4 retail unit at least once since both E3 and Gamescom running a single PS4 game.
lifa-cobex
Member
Asking a journalist to do journalism.............fuck.
People aren't being serious about the size thing right!?
How do they fit quad core cpus, sli/crossfire gpus, hdds, etc.. in laptops which are half as thin as PS4.
Microsoft is targeting 100W TDP max with Xbox One, that's not a lot of heat compared to a regular desktop PC.
beaten.
There were TONS of PS4 resembling PS4 retail kits at Gamescom.
Will you stop with your bullshit?
Sweet, people can finally get tha kinectless SKU for $100 cheaper.
Cerny should have turned and slapped him with a fish
Gonna love it when November 15th rolls around, and people are asking, 'Wha--where's my PS4?'
Then the retailers and Sony are all going to be like, 'Haha, you actually thought we're releasing a PS4? Oh man. We got you real good. PS3 offers fantastic value. Please pick up the PS3 and Beyond this Christmas!'
Then the retailers and Sony are all going to be like, 'Haha, you actually thought we're releasing a PS4? Oh man. We got you real good. PS3 offers fantastic value. Please pick up the PS3 and Beyond this Christmas!'
Okay, no need to start spreading lies now.
I agree. I put it in the OP.
Yeah. It probably will have all that annoying epilepsy stuff and what not. I'm not so concerned with that part though. The most important thing to me is that it's quickly out of suspend.
My new TV turns itself on and is switched to HDMI within 2 seconds. So the PS4 needs to match that. ;-)
(Better than the 7 seconds from my previous TV.)
Oh that works? It used to be #t= though. I tried it with Firefox and it worked with #. Thanks.
Well it is
Not a chance, They'll at least reveal a super super slim sku right?
Proof ?
There were photos brought more questions on what we saw at Gamescom at previous 5 pages.
PS4 = Taris. To fit the Xbox One it must be bigger on the inside.
boredandlazy
Member
There's a console for people who like to buy retail units 3 months out from the actual launch of the PS4, it's called the PS3.
Great. So, that confirms the casing. Next?
In the GAF Gamescom thread. Not the big one but the one describing what was on the floor. I honestly can't remember what the name of the thread was, but the first post was describing all the various games that he saw but didn't get to check out yet and he was going to do it the next day.
The person who posted pictures had a big ass red colored avatar. The picture was in front of the screen, him holding the DS4, plugged in to a RETAIL looking unit.
Also, why are we even discussing all this?
I thought it was well known that at SONY and MS booths they were using real units while all 3rd parties were using devkits/PCs.
fastford58
Member
So this is another tales from my ass thread? Sweet. I love these.
Just in this thread, we have picture about people holding DS4 ,connect to PS4 inside the box, at PS4 show floor.
But the cable connection and big boxes in the bottom of each demo unit raises more questions about what Sony really showed at GC.
I think at this point the discussion is more how incompetent a certain tech editor is.
(His alley-op partner that I edited out of the twitter conversation is already a known enough entity.)
I mean asking the lead architect of the console how they managed the physical dimensions of the console.
Receiving an explanation with a comparison to the familiar PS3 that received well known iterations.
Then posting on twitter how everything at Sony was running on "PCs"
Having it pointed out to him for 11 hours how several other outlets and he himself said they were PS4 devkits, and only then using the correct term.
Basically he didn't understand the answer from Cerny whenever that interview was done and then at least 4 days later decided to raise his concerns publicly that he originally raised to Cerny himself.
I know what you mean. That the systems were on a pedestal surrounding a plastic case. But I mean...come on now..the system has to be resting on something.
So what's the conspiracy theory?--DS4 plugs into PS4, and then a cable from PS4 runs beneath the pedestal into a magical PC?
I dunno man, seems kinda silly to me.
Besides, Demon already said they have the real thing at the offices so good enough for me and should be good enough for the thread.
That's pretty what I've gotten from it as well.
I really don't understand why it's so hard for them to do a tiny tiny bit of reporting/research before taking to Twitter.
If I can be serious for a brief moment, this kind of stuff is really embarrassing to see. It's a sad state of affairs when games 'journalists' don't understand anything. I mean, if this dude is an Executive Editor at IGN, I'm going to recruit some 18 year old to start a games website out of the corner of my office. I believe even a crackhead could do a better job. Heck, I could even make it work in a smart way.
I give him crack. He gives me articles.
I'll drop him off at Konami one day, tell him to go to do some 'games journalism' then he can catch the taxi, or a boat, or a plane, back and I can just upload his articles with grammar and spelling mistakes.
I could call him Crazy Crackhead on a Plane. But that's not right really, and it's copyright. Maybe just call him something else, like Dave. Or John. Bob could work.
If he gets all negotiator on me, I'll knock him out, sprinkle some crack on him, and call the Police before bailing to a different town. Rinse and repeat.
I give him crack. He gives me articles.
I'll drop him off at Konami one day, tell him to go to do some 'games journalism' then he can catch the taxi, or a boat, or a plane, back and I can just upload his articles with grammar and spelling mistakes.
I could call him Crazy Crackhead on a Plane. But that's not right really, and it's copyright. Maybe just call him something else, like Dave. Or John. Bob could work.
If he gets all negotiator on me, I'll knock him out, sprinkle some crack on him, and call the Police before bailing to a different town. Rinse and repeat.
Vinsanity.
Member
The more I read threads like this, the more I lean towards XB1 having better-designed hardware for next gen. Maybe not the bleeding-edge fastest, but the more well thought out design from top to bottom. What that means in the long run, who knows....may mean nothing.
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Deleted member 17706
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Fuckin' video games journalism, man. So little understanding of the actual topic they cover, yet no hesitation to throw out wildly inaccurate statements as something to be concerned about.
This post is the complete opposite of reality.
boredandlazy
Member
How in the hell did you come to that conclusion?
Didn't Cerny say he was really surprised how PS4 could be so small when he first saw it?
Maybe case design is not in his field. He handles software and hardware framework.
/sigh
Sony has been making hardware for about as long as Microsoft has been making software...
I think he was just surprised at seeing it in person being that small. He knew vague dimensions since he knew what was going inside of it.
He didn't know the final design aesthetic, by choice.
He knew the dimension, because that's part of his domain.
Maybe you're confusing it for Shuhei Yoshida, boss of SCEWWS that said:
"We were there as a team. But the box, it’s just a box. When I finally saw it, it was near-final and I was amazed by the thinness and lightness of it. It looked already like the second generation of a console. I compared it to the second generation of the PS3. On PS4, first-gen is almost exactly the same dimensions. More than the aesthetics of it, the smallness of it. I am so psyched."
FeiRR
Banned
Early PS3 devkits (those "VHS" shaped DECR-1000) as posted in this thread, are enormous, heavy and noisy as hell devices. I once had to carry one around and, damn, it was incredibly heavy.* They later fit them into a regular PS3 Fat case (DECR-1400), a picture was also posted in this thread. The only thing that distinguishes them visually from fats at quick glance is the word "Tool" under the Spiderman-font PS3 logo. There are also "Test" units which devs also use and which are given to the press too (IGN has to have at least a few of them!) Those two kinds of units can run unpublished code. Retail PS3s (I assume PS4s too) can't run unpublished code. It's a security measure and every journalist out there has to know it because they deal with it every day. This brings me to the conclusion that this IGN guy did this on purpose, no doubt. Why? I'll let you judge.
*) A speculation: PS4 devbox looks a lot smaller than DECR-1000. I haven't seen one in person yet, just judging by the pictures. Therefore it seems logical the console will be smaller too.
More information on the models here http://www.psdevwiki.com
PJV3
Member
Perhaps he values empty space and the extra air.
How do they fit quad core cpus, sli/crossfire gpus, hdds, etc.. in laptops which are half as thin as PS4.
Microsoft is targeting 100W TDP max with Xbox One, that's not a lot of heat compared to a regular desktop PC.
Laptops will automatically downclock and lower the voltage of the CPU/GPU if it gets too hot. Laptops can also get quite loud when running at full tilt.
The XBox One will also lower the frequency and the voltage of the CPU/GPU (they announced this), and presumably so will the PS4, but it wouldn't exactly be desirable. How loud either console is in retail form remains to be seen.
Definitely not borne out of any information they could have possibly gleaned from this thread. A more powerful machine in a box probably 1/4 of the volume? I flat-out can't accept the claim that the XB1 is better engineered, barring some unforeseen complications.
Hmm?Not sure how that you came to that conclusion.
He said the exact opposite.
Much longer, they made the Sony transistor radio in 1955
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TR-55
(not disagreeing with you)
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Oh man, these comments are gold.
yes , a design to a console that is weaker in power yet is actually a lot bigger than its more powerful competitor and has a power brick outside instead of inside compare to its more powerful competitor is some how a better-designed hardware.
I have heard it all now.
SniperHunter
Banned
Not to pile on this even further, but how the hell do you come to this conclusion?
Blows my mind.
