Rizsparky
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lmao, sums up this thread pretty much.
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Nintendo Announces Nintendo 2DS
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lmao, sums up this thread pretty much.
Completely agree with you.
Video games can be for everyone. There can be games for kids, games for adults, and games for everyone.
Similarly, there can be models of video game hardware there are tailored to children. And we shouldn't need to freak out about it.
Using your movie example, it would be similar to movie afficionados taking personal offense at Dreamworks releasing animated movies instead of movies akin to Saving Private Ryan.
WHY NOT BOTH.JPG?
Ninja Scooter
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On the surface this sort of appeals to me because the 3DS' 3D does nothing at all for me. Upon closer inspection however...
It is ugly as shit and looks like a cheap leap pad knockoff or something.
The name of the device is stupid because it denotes a clear inferiority to an existing product
It's ugly as fucking shit
Is the 3D that expensive? Couldn't they just drop the price if the OG 3DS to $130 soon?
It also makes the 3DS' biggest feature look completely unnecessary.
It is fucking ugly. It looks like a next gen speak'n'spell.
In conclusion: Iwata has lost his damn mind and Nintendo do are desperate as fuck but out of ideas.
It is ugly as shit and looks like a cheap leap pad knockoff or something.
The name of the device is stupid because it denotes a clear inferiority to an existing product
It's ugly as fucking shit
Is the 3D that expensive? Couldn't they just drop the price if the OG 3DS to $130 soon?
It also makes the 3DS' biggest feature look completely unnecessary.
It is fucking ugly. It looks like a next gen speak'n'spell.
In conclusion: Iwata has lost his damn mind and Nintendo do are desperate as fuck but out of ideas.
I'm going to guess they didn't do that because those things were cut in order to get to this price point.
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toddhunter
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Any fighting game or 2D DS platformer like the megamans. Resident evil, kid icarus...there are lots.
I think the design is fundamentally flawed in this regard and this revision does not seem to fix it.
Can't you see his index fingers are resting on the shoulder buttons comfortably?
Can't you see he is using the stick not the d-pad? To use the d-pad, he needs to move his hand down the console or contort his thumb. How then does he still rest comfortably on the trigger? The answer is by bending your hand out into a claw shape, which means you lose your support base when holding the console.
You go from holding it comfortably in two hands to balancing it on one and a bit. It doesn't work.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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That "Are you embarrassed to play your handheld in public?" topic from a while ago was a real hoot.
ShironRedshift
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Having worked 2 holiday seasons at the R Zone in a Toys R Us, not the way people typically think about this. People typically buy some kind of case or pouch for these systems regardless, just so they can make sure that their kid keeps the system and all its games together in one place with the additional benefit of protecting it. In other words, the case is typically seen as an assumed cost regardless of which version they get.
Ninja Scooter
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I love how now people are embracing the idea of nintendo being kiddie when it's convinient. The 3DS was already aimed and marketed largely at kids. It already was a toy in the eyes of most consumers. Why exactly does it need a "kids version"?
Rizsparky
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Fighting games (notably SSFIV3D) that require the d-pad and shoulder buttons will have a hard time with this.
redmetal86
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Wait, I'm kinda missing the part where it was mentioned that this was aimed at younger kids. The video on the first page has a child, man, and woman playing it. Seems like an everyone device.
How much does 3D functionality cost?
How much does 3D functionality cost?
Ultimadrago
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Man, that is ugly.
KillerTravis
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You are the only one losing his shit over here. It's a low budget alternative, the 3DS is not going away.
fredrancour
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My initial reaction was bewilderment. Now, I think it is a decent idea but a branding nightmare.
It will sell monstrously in a year or two when all 3ds iterations drop in price. 100 dollar 2ds, 130 regular ds, 160 or 170 xl?
If they were willing to make this, a wiiu sku with no pad will probably also happen in a year or two when they admit the gamepad isn't a system seller.
It will sell monstrously in a year or two when all 3ds iterations drop in price. 100 dollar 2ds, 130 regular ds, 160 or 170 xl?
If they were willing to make this, a wiiu sku with no pad will probably also happen in a year or two when they admit the gamepad isn't a system seller.
ShironRedshift
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In regards to the latter, I said not including matters of preference, which are things young kids won't care about that much. The Circle Pad isn't optimal for those, but it's usable and the kids this is targeted at won't care that much.
Ah, true. My mind blanked on me for some reason. Unfortunately, those are both while great games I can't really see them selling much more anyway, so I can unfortunately see why Nintendo probably didn't give them much thought either.
jts
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Because it's cheaper to manufacture, so it can be sold for less thus widening its market (especially towards younger children and casuals) without biting into the margins.
No chance for a kid to break the hinges. No 3D to "ruin their eyes". Easier for them to hold.
toddhunter
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To be honest, I don't care much what kids want.
I just want a 3DS/2DS/Whatever DS that is comfortable to hold and play for me like the original DS was.
Swapping the stick and d-pad locations would do it. Having a "clip out" area where you could swap it around for different games would be perfect. I welcome this idea, but it does not fix the major problem I have with the platform.
tehrik-e-insaaf
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this *may* tell us where nintendo is headed in terms of product roadmap
if this is successful, next handheld is going to be a single-screen tablet IMHO with a similar form-factor
if this is successful, next handheld is going to be a single-screen tablet IMHO with a similar form-factor
fastford58
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This is real? Holy shit. I thought people were joking in other threads. Yet here it is.
What's wrong with its faaaace.
What's wrong with its faaaace.
Red Chocobo
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I'm thinking the same thing. In fact, it looks chunkier than both the original ones.
It looks like the ergonomics were aimed more at adults.
I have just woken up to this news and boy, was I confused. First saw it on Serebii, thought it was a weird April Fools Day article, realised its August...go over to Kotaku and there it is... >_>
I can see what they are trying to do for the American and European markets and still, I can't help but feel there must have been some other, more appropriate way of dealing with the situation than releasing this device....it just doesn't look very 'Nintendo'. As discussed, the L button+D pad usage make it not especially ergonomic and to me, it just doesn't feel like a Nintendo device. Kinda reminds me of the Nintendo Vii.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vii
I can see what they are trying to do for the American and European markets and still, I can't help but feel there must have been some other, more appropriate way of dealing with the situation than releasing this device....it just doesn't look very 'Nintendo'. As discussed, the L button+D pad usage make it not especially ergonomic and to me, it just doesn't feel like a Nintendo device. Kinda reminds me of the Nintendo Vii.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vii
TheGreatMightyPoo
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No 3D, won't ruin their developing eyes for good.
MicroByter
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I think I'll wait for the 2DS XL or maybe the 2DS Micro.
Zombie James
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Where are people getting the idea that this is a kids-only system? The Kotaku article in the OP doesn't mention it and Nintendo's press release doesn't say anything like that, either:
And someone already posted a press shot of two adults using it. Unless "entry-level" is now a synonym for "under six"?
CosmicQueso
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Why does it have to be an either/or situation?
I view the 3DS XL as the luxury system..more comfortable, bigger screens, fits better in an adult hands.
Nintendo's handheld business has always been fueled by kids, that's no secret. And they obviously had obtained feedback that parents were hesitant about picking up the 3DS for little Johnny. My guess is they heard negative press about 3D use by young kids, and they got burned by broken hinges on DS systems.
The power buttons are easily remapped.
Immaculate
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smart move I guess to release the same time as Pokemon X/Y and market it towards kids but jesus its fucking hideous
The round shoulder buttons are flexible so I don't see how it will not work.
2DS is just 5 inch high so it's not really that big.
He can still reach the L shoulder button with his finger tip pressing on the side.
I guess we will have to wait and see for ourselves.
PreyingShark
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Most people I know dislike 3D as well, be it on movies, on the 3DS, whatever. I think this is perfectly for basically everyone that was on the edge for the 3ds but was waiting for a pricedrop and hated the 3d slider because they would only get a headache from it. It has no added value to those people (including me).
Actually it should be really great for me. Only I wish I could clap it down for easier traveling. Now it seems like a big tablet that is hard to take with you on the bus/train.
When I was a kid I would've thought it was really cool-looking.
I still think it's cool looking for a handheld gaming device.
Weren't there a lot of mockups before the 3DS came out that pictures it exactly like this?
Opus Angelorum
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I think this product is too confusing and clearly awful looking to be successful, but maybe I'm under valuing the affect a price drop can have.
It's disappointing that Nintendo is backing down from 3D, because while I know many consider it to just be a gimmick, I think it's really interesting technology that does add value.
I wonder if their reasoning is mostly price drop or if they genuinely were finding that some parents were reluctant to buy a 3D product for their children and Nintendo was having trouble communicating that the 3D was optional.
It's disappointing that Nintendo is backing down from 3D, because while I know many consider it to just be a gimmick, I think it's really interesting technology that does add value.
I wonder if their reasoning is mostly price drop or if they genuinely were finding that some parents were reluctant to buy a 3D product for their children and Nintendo was having trouble communicating that the 3D was optional.
Immaculate
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heh same hereWhen I was a kid I would've thought it was really cool-looking.
lmao bravoA friend gave me the idea. Could not resist:
nintendoman58
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A friend gave me the idea. Could not resist:
My sides.
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