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[ShadyJ]

Ive got a 96 Paragon 250k dps Barbarian, 200 hours played..

The game is bad, its en endless hunt for a drop that RARELY ever comes. At end game you are forced to just play optimized runs for Paragon experience, playing any other way hampers your Paragon experience gain if its not optimized.

90% of legendary drop are in instant Brimstone, people wont even stop to pick up most of them now because they know they are going to absolute rubbish/ Loot 2.0 is hopefully going to alleviate this when it hits PC which is a plus.

Everyone in this this thread claiming the game is "good" are you even playing Inferno? what Paragon are you? how much time did you "really" play...?

Im looking forward to the expansion but as the game stand right now on PC its a bloody disaster, the expansion will hopefully fix alot that is wrong.

 

[stargateheaven]

Bold prediction!

whats that gif?

 

[dog$]

I was merely listing out the reasons why I feel like this version will be better than the PC version.

"I don't like spending money on microtransactions" is a far cry from "it was all a grand conspiracy to force everyone to use RMAH".

[Diablo 3 is an] endless hunt for a drop that RARELY ever comes. At end game you are forced to just play optimized runs for Paragon experience, playing any other way hampers your Paragon experience gain if its not optimized.

90% of legendary drop are in instant Brimstone, people wont even stop to pick up most of them now because they know they are going to absolute rubbish/ Loot 2.0 is hopefully going to alleviate this when it hits PC which is a plus.

Attention, everyone else: Notice how all of this is true despite the presence of an AH. Taking away the AH changes nothing of this factual quote. This is what you have to look forward to in this console version of the game.

Everyone in this this thread claiming the game is "good" are you even playing Inferno? what Paragon are you? how much time did you "really" play...?

Most folks are claiming this version is good because they played the game for 10 hours in May and quit, and they are assuming that the removal of the AH will make it the game that they wanted it to be.

 

[UnrealEck]

Oh, I see what's happening, you're going to shoot down every feature because it interferes with your PC master race view of the game. (I am a part of that master race)

mmmm okay. When people ask questions more than once in succession they're fanboys. For the record I played D3 back in may last year and finished at and never returned to it. I asked the things I did out of curiosity and was skeptical of the other things I commented on.

 

[OmegaTreeFish]

Sounds good. I didn't get it on PC because:
• I was starting to get tired of playing games with M/K (been a long time PC game but also consoles and in recent times just prefer the comfort of a controller).
• I hated the idea of the RMAH and knew it would ruin the late game
• I hated the no offline mode (I would still now and then go back and go through D2 with a new char now and then).
• My game time is more limited these days, especially on PC, so servers down would mean I wouldn't get to play at all that day.
• Torchlight 2 was about to come out and was cheaper, closer to D2 gameplay wise and didnt rely on servers.

Seeing as my biggest issues with it are gone I will be tempted to get this if they bring it out on PS4.

 

[-tetsuo-]

The Internet seems to swear D3 is terrible. I didn't believe them and still don't. 9 from EG? Come on, son.

Only best game or worst game exist.

 

[Burger_Baron]

You can buy/sell loot for real money. That's the gist of it.

Does Diablo currency and real money have their own AH or are they cross-over?

And can the player sell stuff for real money, or does he get all the income as Diablo currency?

 

[V_Arnold]

Ive got a 96 Paragon 250k dps Barbarian, 200 hours played..

The game is bad, its en endless hunt for a drop that RARELY ever comes. At end game you are forced to just play optimized runs for Paragon experience, playing any other way hampers your Paragon experience gain if its not optimized.

90% of legendary drop are in instant Brimstone, people wont even stop to pick up most of them now because they know they are going to absolute rubbish/ Loot 2.0 is hopefully going to alleviate this when it hits PC which is a plus.

Everyone in this this thread claiming the game is "good" are you even playing Inferno? what Paragon are you? how much time did you "really" play...?

Im looking forward to the expansion but as the game stand right now on PC its a bloody disaster, the expansion will hopefully fix alot that is wrong.

So what? Who gives a shit? Why does it matter if you get to paragon100 in two months instead of in six? What will happen? (Says someone who has more hours clocked in with my WD alone than your total gametime, and still only paragon60 )

 

[BigDug13]

Ive got a 96 Paragon 250k dps Barbarian, 200 hours played..

The game is bad, its en endless hunt for a drop that RARELY ever comes. At end game you are forced to just play optimized runs for Paragon experience, playing any other way hampers your Paragon experience gain if its not optimized.

90% of legendary drop are in instant Brimstone, people wont even stop to pick up most of them now because they know they are going to absolute rubbish.

Everyone in this this thread claiming the game is "good" are you even playing Inferno? what Paragon are you? how much time did you "really" play...?

For someone who has never experienced the game on PC, and has no Auction House begging them to buy overpowered lowbie gear for pennies to unbalance the gameplay, this game offers probably 100 hours of gaming for you just getting through Hell with every class.

I personally think Paragon grinding and Inferno runs are boring. But if someone wants a decent action RPG to play through on their couch with a few friends, this one is it. Just stop after Hell and either play a new class or sell the game. Diablo 3 endgame is crap. Thankfully it takes you many, many hours to get there with all 5 classes.

 

[darth_infamous]

Ive got a 96 Paragon 250k dps Barbarian, 200 hours played..

The game is bad

Sorry, I couldn't read past this point as I was laughing too hard. Good one.

 

[Dr_Boris_Goltz]

What's the framerate on the current console versions?

Not sure if I should wait for the PS4 version, or grab a copy with my brother.

 

[FrostuTheNinja]

Only best game or worst game exist.

Truer words have never been spoken. Especially recently. Seems like it's been all or nothing the past few years.

Edit:

What's the framerate on the current console versions?

Not sure if I should wait for the PS4 version, or grab a copy with my brother.

We were trying to figure that out in the OT last night. I wonder if it was ever resolved?

 

[Kurod]

Auction house Real Money? I mean,can somebody enlighten me?

Cause I have not heard about this and nothing makes me more furious than microtransactions. Let those big corporations suck our pocket dry

PC game uses two separate auction houses: One that uses gold for purchases and one that uses actually money tied to a paypal account. Blizzard gets a cut of the money but the player selling gets the lion's share. Personally, I made back the cost of the game and then a little bit some from the RMAH before I simply lost interest.

Edit: And yeah I got it as real money deposited into my paypal account.

 

[BigDug13]

"I don't like spending money on microtransactions" is a far cry from "it was all a grand conspiracy to force everyone to use RMAH".

Did you not read what I wrote? There is a conflict of interest. Developers intentionally make gameplay slower and less fun to push you towards spending money to bring back the fun. I DO believe it was a conspiracy by Blizzard to create a revenue stream to offset their declining subscription money from WoW.

We can be in disagreement here. We are allowed that right here on Neogaf.

 

[Santar]

Those are some great scores.
I just hope this sells well so that the consoles gets the expansion as well.
If everybody waits for the next gen versions that might not happen.

And for those who are waiting for the PS4 version, you might be in for a long wait, Blizz has just barely started on that version of the game they've said.

 

[V_Arnold]

Did you not read what I wrote? There is a conflict of interest. Developers intentionally make gameplay slower and less fun to push you towards spending money to bring back the fun. I DO believe it was a conspiracy by Blizzard to create a revenue stream to offset their declining subscription money from WoW.

We can be in disagreement here. We are allowed that right here on Neogaf.

This would hold true if Diablo III were not ultimately praised for its insanely fun and fast gameplay, though. Which it was and still is. So....

 

[ShadyJ]

Sorry, I couldn't read past this point as I was laughing too hard. Good one.

Whats so funny?

The fact that ive clocked enough time to tell you the facts and not dribble about how im in "hell" and the game is a 10/10?

 

[Yoshichan]

Ive got a 96 Paragon 250k dps Barbarian, 200 hours played..

The game is bad

God damn!

 

[BigDug13]

mmmm okay. When people ask questions more than once in succession they're fanboys. For the record I played D3 back in may last year and finished at and never returned to it. I asked the things I did out of curiosity and was skeptical of the other things I commented on.

Sorry, i thought you were being intentionally obtuse. I apologize if that was not your frame of mind, as it's impossible to read people's emotions through a forum post. Your post read to me like a defense of the PC version of the game as every feature that I saw as an improvement over my hundreds of hours of Diablo 3 PC gaming you shot down like they were frivolous.

 

[ShadyJ]

God damn!

Get of your high horse, go to any site that exclusively covers Diablo and visit the forums.

The state of the game right now is troubling at best.

I have clocked 200 hours and by point about it being bad is laughable? ok then

I PLAYED FOR 5 HOURS. Its still bad,...

 

[Dr_Boris_Goltz]

We were trying to figure that out in the OT last night. I wonder if it was ever resolved?

This is a problem I have with reviews; they should mention the FPS and more technical details. They're important!

 

[dog$]

I have clocked 200 hours and by point about it being bad is laughable? ok then

To be fair, reaching PL96 on a scant 200 hours is honestly surprising to me, even in knowing that you used a Barb.

 

[ShadyJ]

To be fair, reaching PL96 on a scant 200 hours is honestly surprising to me, even in knowing that you used a Barb.

Ill check it now to give you a solid number

 

[Cipherr]

To be fair, reaching PL96 on a scant 200 hours is honestly surprising to me, even in knowing that you used a Barb.

Ehh, not so much as a barb. Easy mode class, and has been for a long long time.

 

[BigDug13]

This would hold true if Diablo III were not ultimately praised for its insanely fun and fast gameplay, though. Which it was and still is. So....

Fun and fast gameplay true, horribly difficult without good gear in Inferno? Yes. Drops in Hell difficulty were complete garbage early on and you would farm and farm for hours and come up empty. Inferno was insanely difficult without some strong yellow gear and a fantastic weapon dps. You ended up looking at the AH and gearing up that way. I only stuck to gold AH but I was playing a loot game and being pushed into a marketplace to buy gear needed to advance so that I could sit in Act 1 Inferno for days and days not finding good gear drops which would send me back to the gold AH to try to gear up for Act 2.

Playing the game didnt reward me with loot. Visiting the AH did. If I was willing to spend real money, the gear was all there and would have been easier than farming the gold and items to sell in the AH to attempt more gold AH purchases.

Bottom line is that in D3, you were pushed towards the AH to try to succeed. They wanted you to browse the RMAH as well and hopefully buy items that someone else was selling. Someone in this very thread mentioned the $1000 or something they made by selling items. Someone bought that stuff. Blizzard took a 10% cut or some such.

 

[DJwest]

Hum... I will mostly play that game alone, reviews seem to praise the coop but what about one player walkthroughs? If good I might buy it on PS4

 

[Cipherr]

Fun and fast gameplay true, horribly difficult without good gear in Inferno? Yes.

Someone commenting on the game that hasn't played since the first month or so of release?

Check....


Inferno hasn't been difficult without good gear for a long time. You can cruise right out of Hell and do Inferno MP0 with shit gear just fine. And the difficulty of Inferno near release was fun and challenging. It took a long time to get the gear needed to clear it, but it was possible many of us did it.

 

[toastyToast]

Wonder how this will level out seeing as its clearly better than D3 was than what it launched at on PC. Will hype or sense triumph?

 

[V_Arnold]

Fun and fast gameplay true, horribly difficult without good gear in Inferno? Yes. Drops in Hell difficulty were complete garbage early on and you would farm and farm for hours and come up empty. Inferno was insanely difficult without some strong yellow gear and a fantastic weapon dps. You ended up looking at the AH and gearing up that way. I only stuck to gold AH but I was playing a loot game and being pushed into a marketplace to buy gear needed to advance so that I could sit in Act 1 Inferno for days and days not finding good gear drops which would send me back to the gold AH to try to gear up for Act 2.

Playing the game didnt reward me with loot. Visiting the AH did. If I was willing to spend real money, the gear was all there and would have been easier than farming the gold and items to sell in the AH to attempt more gold AH purchases.

I was there, and I actually enjoyed the difficult part. It was a very unique time in gaming, something not easily replicated. It required micro, skill, endurance, luck and perserverence to go through that barrier. Defeating pre-nerf Belial with a Wizard on 400~ all resists and 20-25k dps was a feat worthy to be proud of, because you could make exactly zero (or maybe one in the first phase) mistake to clear it.

But, as you said, it is okay to have different feelings about this. I expected the difficulty to be hard on Inferno, and I got exactly that. Others expected something...else, and they did not get that. Now it is a moot point anyway, cause the game can be scaled however you want it. If you have issues with inf mp0, go to hell( mp5+ ofc), if too easy, scale it up.

 

[Cipherr]

Wonder how this will level out seeing as its clearly better than D3 was than what it launched at on PC. Will hype or sense triumph?

I reckon itll do fine at launch, and be dead a year later. The expansion will hit the PC, but not the consoles on time. It will all be late ports and 'modified' gameplay and whatnot to fit consoles. The vast majority of the active playerbase will definitely still be on PC. Especially once the expansion comes out.

 

[BigDug13]

Someone commenting on the game that hasn't played since the first month or so of release?

Check....


Inferno hasn't been difficult without good gear for a long time. You can cruise right out of Hell and do Inferno MP0 with shit gear just fine.

Someone commenting on my post which was in response to Blizzards original "milk gamers through RMAH" design by talking about something completely different?

Check.

It wasn't the first month, more like 2-3 months. And that doesn't change what they tried to do with the RMAH and loot drops. Their 10 million strong first month playerbase started dropping like flies so they changed it up and that's great. But their RMAH and the loot drops tuned for providing a revenue stream to Blizzard was easy to see when it was first implemented. They just didn't get away with it long term as people left in droves.

 

[Covilicious]

FUCK this game on both pc and consoles

 

[Nasym]

For me diablo 2 had rmah (d2jsp) and needed an always online connection, battle.net. This did nothing to stop it from being awesome. Loot, flavour, difficulty and lots more smaller details were all really good. You could fool around with a random build based on an item rarely used and have a good time. Gold barb!!

With diablo 3 this is reversed, i still dont care about rmah or online but everything Else is complete shit and i could rant for hours about it.

 

[dog$]

Ehh, not so much as a barb. Easy mode class, and has been for a long long time.

I'm aware.

I expected the difficulty to be hard on Inferno, and I got exactly that.

One of the most disappointing things about D3 is that its base difficulty (meaning, ignoring MP) was nerfed with every patch that changed difficulty.

I only made it to A3 before the first big reduction. I was honestly saddened that I'd never have a chance to work my way to clearing the game as it originally stood.

 

[V_Arnold]

One of the most disappointing things about D3 is that its base difficulty (meaning, ignoring MP) was nerfed with every patch that changed difficulty.

I only made it to A3 before the first big reduction. I was honestly saddened that I'd never have a chance to work my way to clearing the game as it originally stood.

Same here, I got till Siegebreaker, if I remember correctly. But it was insanely hard out there, with the folks that hit the ground and spikes came out at you...good old times! And pre-nerf Ghom, jeez.

 

[ShadyJ]

To be fair, reaching PL96 on a scant 200 hours is honestly surprising to me, even in knowing that you used a Barb.

Here we go, ive sold my self way short.

93 Paragon, 310 Hours played.

So id say my opinion is somewhat warranted.

 

[V_Arnold]

Here we go, ive sold my self way short.

93 Paragon, 310 Hours played.

So id say my opinion is somewhat warranted.

Nah, since you played a Barb.

 

[-tetsuo-]

You do not play a game you dislike for over 300 hours. It just does not happen.

 

[ShadyJ]

Nah, since you played a Barb.

LOL ok then, i didnt play the game for 300 hours dude.

I played a Barbarian since release day, i was forced to use a shield and 1 hander then, IT WAS THE MOST BORING CLASS

But now since the HoTA/WW/Rend builds were devised because of the upgrade of the Skorn my opinion is not valid?

You guys are pathetic sometimes.

 

[Krappadizzle]

Whats so funny?

The fact that ive clocked enough time to tell you the facts and not dribble about how im in "hell" and the game is a 10/10?

The fact that you play a "bad" game for 200 hours is pretty funny to me.

 

[-tetsuo-]

Barbarian? Boring? He is fucking murder machine.

 

[Recall]

I love how everything turns into an argument especially of whether or not someone enjoyed a game.

Looking forward to getting this on my PS3

 

[Neki]

You do not play a game you dislike for over 300 hours. It just does not happen.

I don't understand this either. Why are you playing a game for so long that you dislike?

 

[ShadyJ]

You do not play a game you dislike for over 300 hours. It just does not happen.

I was trying to gain Paragon 100, you think i was enjoying grinding the same ACT1 farming route for hours a day?

No i didnt, but i did it.

So please GAF keep telling me what i like and what i didnt like since you all have a window to my soul.

 

[ShadyJ]

The fact that you play a "bad" game for 200 hours is pretty funny to me.

Yeah? go ask anyone who gained Paragon 100 and see if they "enjoyed it"

All these comments show me just how little any of you played

 

[Krappadizzle]

I don't understand this either. Why are you playing a game for so long that you dislike?

I have diablo 3 for PC. I didn't really enjoy it, i only played it for maybe 8 hours. 200+ hours means you found something you liked about it.

 

[dog$]

LOL ok then, i didnt play the game for 300 hours dude.

I played a Barbarian since release day, i was forced to use a shield and 1 hander then, IT WAS THE MOST BORING CLASS

But now since the HoTA/WW/Rend builds were devised because of the upgrade of the Skorn my opinion is not valid?

You guys are pathetic sometimes.

I think he was joking.

My post wasn't trying to call you out, it was just an observation.

I never played D3 solo, and even after 750 hours on my Wizard I only reached PL81.

Bear in mind I quoted the majority of your first post to agree with it, and to inform others.

 

[BigDug13]

Yeah? go ask anyone who gained Paragon 100 and see if they "enjoyed it"

All these comments show me just how little any of you played

But what's the purpose of grinding to 100 Paragon? It seemed like filler as soon as Blizzard announced it, especially if you no longer enjoy the game.

 

[Krappadizzle]

Yeah? go ask anyone who gained Paragon 100 and see if they "enjoyed it"

All these comments show me just how little any of you played

Exactly. You have a really poor argument calling it a bad game. I don't think it's a good game. I didn't play it for very long either.

 

[Liamario]

Will buy on PS4. Hopefully they'll start talking about next gen ports again.