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[Markitron]

Sorry Mates,

Kinect just isn't good enough tech for your country..


besides, you got better things to talk to:

just trying to ease the pain..

Whilst I applaud your efforts, I can guarantee you that is nowhere near what the average Irish woman looks like. Unfortunately

 

[Wurdfurd]

So I guess the console will only be released in these countries after all? Because you know, it got delayed to 2014 in 8 of the original 21 countries because of supply issues.

FTFY. I honestly think MS has zero intention on releasing next gen this year. Then Sony came and messed with their master plan.

 

[Bomber Bob]

Voice commands will be available at launch in US, UK, CA, FR, and DE.

NSA's favourite countries

let's spread the FUD

 

[Hana-Bi]

Albert claimed that the only issues causing the delay were language and voice support. Now we find out that 8 of the 13 countries it is launching in don't even have voice support. This begs the question: why couldn't they launch in the delayed countries then?

He never said that. He claimed localisation issues for the delay. And this includes the language but also local services and media apps.

 

[Lamptramp]

EmptySpace wants to ask which advertised innovative features of the xbone are actually going to work in a non-us/uk country?

I would also like to know this too.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

I got the solution to their problem. Bring this guy in, you can launch in ALL the countries.

 

[AngryMoth]

Wait, I thought the delay for some euro countries was due to localisation? I assumed that was to do with voice commands? But they are happy to release in some countries without voice commands?

 

[Curufinwe]

I hate to break it to you, but you have an accent.

Americans who think they don't have an accent remind me of Japanese people who think only Japan has four seasons.

 

[kaching]

You're losing me here. The 5 countries getting voice support blurb does not mean any less HARDWARE is rolling out. Sounds like localization issues to me.

They chopped 8 countries from the initial launch and claimed that was because of localization issues. Meanwhile, of the remaining 13 countries in the initial launch, 8 will have very limited Kinect support because of...localization issues. Do you see the problem yet?

 

[Prince Vultan]

Not like you guys care for kinect, so no loss.

Yeah, no one's forcing them to pay for it.

 

[Minions]

I wonder what tier it makes these 5 countries? Tier 1+? Seems pretty odd. I does this not require voice training (like the windows computers?) I remember the demo they showed doing voice translations from one language to another just by talking. The guy said he had trained the PC over quite a few hours (6+) to get it to a acceptable state.

I guess the small changes in languages (despite being the same language) is being a huge barrier (in addition to manufacturing issues)

 

[nampad]

Waiting on Albert reply now. Don't like this contradiction at all.

We all do

 

[Subitai]

Wrong English.

Yup. Like Spain had the wrong Spanish, but Mexico didn't.

 

[DieH@rd]

English, French and German are the most important languages on this planet.

AND I SPEAK THEM ALL!!!

I feel now very special. Thanks, Microsoft. :3

The only thing that matters is where you have registered your MS account.

 

[jond76]

They chopped 8 countries from the initial launch and claimed that was because of localization issues. Meanwhile, of the remaining 13 countries in the initial launch, 8 will have very limited Kinect support because of...localization issues. Do you see the problem yet?

Yeah, I saw it on the last page. Thanks for being late AND condescending.

 

[Sephiroth503]

I'm not sure.. when they listed the countries it was releasing in, wasn't Ireland and the UK listed separately?

Still though you do have a point, it's a fairly common (and stupid) thing to do by listing Ireland as part of the UK. Although we'll not go in to that argument. lol

Could well have been listed that way, just an observation really as there is simply no excuse for requiring Ireland to have a unique language separate from the UK when they have equally distinct accents. The Irish accent is not that strong and I highly doubt they are calibrating thing for "cupla focal gaeilge". Hell if people actually buy the thing and it doesn't recognise what they're saying maybe the 500euro investment will encourage them to speak better.

 

[Whiteshirt]

You're losing me here. The 5 countries getting voice support blurb does not mean any less HARDWARE is rolling out. Sounds like localization issues to me.

What people are suggesting is that there are supply issues. There was some suggestion that there were supply issues from Microsoft only launching in 13 countries then handing them a free copy of Fifa 14.

Because Microsoft seems adamant that there are no yield problems (CBOAT, some other dudes, some Chinese business newspaper claim there are supply issues), it looks like they're trying to throw the Kinect under the bus to muddy the water.

Why does it look like this? Well...if localisation is the reason why launch is delayed in some countries, why are some tier one countries getting an Xbox One that doesn't do what the Kinect 2 is meant to do?

Through elimination, there's only one reason: supply issues.

 

[Flatline]

He never said that. He claimed localisation issues for the delay. And this includes the language but also local services and media apps.

Incorrect.

Launch volumes are not really an issue. This was simply a software issue in terms of getting local language and voice support in the dash. it's pretty straightforward, but disappointing I know for people who are missing launch.

Obviously, I support people waiting for the official supported launch in the affected markets for the best experience

 

[Zeth]

This is a common problem with voice command tech - see Siri - staggered roll-out.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

God you're annoying.

Stop typing in the third person.

I assume it's an attempt to get a tag.

 

[Liamario]

I suspect they're including Ireland in that list.

 

[jayu26]

This launch is just sad Microsoft.

ShakeHead.gif

 

[Xanonano]

He never said that. He claimed localisation issues for the delay. And this includes the language but also local services and media apps.

So Microsoft are missing out on console and game sales in 8 countries because some of their media apps aren't ready. Ok.

 

[beast786]

This is a funny coincidence:




This is the discussion I had with Opus just a few hours ago. I kind of feel bad for the people who want to believe Microsoft's bullshit excuses, they have been disappointed repeatedly the last few months.

but.. But GAF hates MS and stuff...all of GAF . it's GAF fault.

 

[Kleegamefan]

How ,exactly, is a lack of voice support indicative of supply issues? Seems like the countries are still getting the box.

Because:

Initially, XB1 was supposed to launch in 21 countries

Now, that number has been reduced to 13 countries

The official reason given for that reduction is more time is required for Kinect2 voice recognition localization

But now it seems not all (not even most) of those 13 launch countries will have Kinect voice recognition enabled, which casts severe doubt over the
prime reason given for the reduction in launch regions......if Microsofts excuse it truly valid, it should only launch in 5 countries first, not 13.

The most logical conclusion is MS is having supply issues......not an unusual or even unexpected problem, but one MS is unwilling to admit to as of yet.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Guys jond76 gets it now lol.

 

[silver.tongue]

EmptySpace wants to ask which advertised innovative features of the xbone are actually going to work in a non-us/uk country?

I know it's not against GAF rules to write like that, but you really should stop.
It's anoying and makes you sound like a douche soccer player from Brazil.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

Serves you guys right for speaking a foreign language.

 

[Flatline]

Waiting on Albert reply now. Don't like this contradiction at all.

What do you expect him to say? Everyone should have expected that, he's a nice guy and all but if you expect him to repeat anything other than Microsoft's PR you're gonna have a bad time.

 

[kaching]

Yeah, I saw it on the last page. Thanks for being late AND condescending.

Sorry, but I gotta tag to live up to.

In my defense, I totally started responding when no one else had.

 

[Hana-Bi]

Incorrect.

He later said that localisation also includes services and apps. iirc

 

[TheJollyCorner]

God you're annoying.

Stop typing in the third person.

if you imagine him/her talking in Elmo's voice does it make it better or worse?

 

[Sez]

Lot of people doubt about CBOAT, but he was right on this!

X1 have supply issues and the localization is BS!

 

[LordBaztion]

Acording to the FAQ for importers leaked by CBOAT voice commands will be avaliable in english, italian, french, german and spanish, but you can set up your locale in any marketplace you want and change it whenever you want.

 

[juicyfruitas]

Kinect 1 was a buggy POS and these rumblings are not inspiring confidence in Kinect2 improving the experience

 

[kaching]

He later said that localisation also includes services and apps. iirc

And what is kinect if not a service that integrates with apps?

 

[Caode]

Could well have been listed that way, just an observation really as there is simply no excuse for requiring Ireland to have a unique language separate from the UK when they have equally distinct accents. The Irish accent is not that strong and I highly doubt they are calibrating thing for "cupla focal gaeilge". Hell if people actually buy the thing and it doesn't recognise what they're saying maybe the 500euro investment will encourage them to speak better.

Without a doubt, our accent isn't too thick at all (unless your in the back arse of nowhere in Cork maybe) but there's a lot of thicker, stronger accents spread out across the UK, so it'll be interesting to see how the voice commands go down across the UK on launch.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

Serves you guys right for speaking a foreign language.

MS' problems with XBone aren't Kinect and yield issues, it's that the whole world isn't American

 

[The Crimson Kid]

While this is truly embarrassing, it isn't surprising at all to see this kind of managerial waste and silliness from Microsoft.

Someone unfamiliar with MS corporate might wonder: "Wait, why are they having so much trouble with voice recognition in many languages for XB1 when MS has been working with those languages for several years now? Hasn't there been multiple language voice recognition in Windows since Windows 7? And haven't they been working on Kinect specifically for a few years now?"

To that, I would reply: "You don't know Microsoft."

This is the company that spends several years developing a new version of Windows,
scraps that work, spends another couple years, and the end result is Windows Vista. This is the company that spends over $400 million acquiring and funding Rare, and then utterly squanders the company. This is the company that has a team of 500 people working for multiple years on the Music app for Windows 8, and yet what they have to show for it in Windows 8.1 is less functional and practical than their own Zune desktop app.

MS are chronically inefficient and managerially incompetent across the board.

 

[jond76]

Guys jond76 gets it now lol.

Man, that was exhausting. Ha.

 

[BigDug13]

Serves you guys right for speaking a foreign language.

But what's weird is that Microsoft isn't saying these are the languages supported on the platform. They're saying these are the only countries with language enabled. Why are they doing it this way instead of simply releasing Languages supported, so that someone in Ireland can speak English to it. I mean are they going for Gaelic support or something?

The way they did that disclaimer or the way they're implementing localization is weird to me. There are people in Europe who speak English as a second language. Can they buy an XBO and expect to be able to talk to it? Or does voice commands have to be enabled for their nation, no matter what language they speak?

It's a common misconception that the US has a national language, we do not, so just saying voice commands work in the United States is not the same as saying English and Spanish are supported in all Countries.

 

[Trickster]

Surely it's possible to use english voice commands even if you don't buy and X1 from an english speaking country?

 

[Roland1979]

The whole argument around it being accent is silly.

Have you heard people from the north of England, or Wales, or Scotland?

Don't worry, they have a answer and a solution:

Why on earth would I live there?

Fortunately we have a product for people who aren’t able to get some form of connectivity, it’s called Xbox 360.

 

[Flatline]

He later said that localisation also includes services and apps. iirc

So you're going to completely ignore one of the two main excuses in order to keep believing him?

 

[Dead Prince]

But what's weird is that Microsoft isn't saying these are the languages supported on the platform. They're saying these are the only countries with language enabled. Why are they doing it this way instead of simply releasing Languages supported. So that someone in Ireland can speak English to it. I mean are they going for Gaelic support or something?

The way they did that disclaimer or the way they're implementing localization is weird to me. There are people in Europe who speak English as a second language. Can they buy an XBO and expect to be able to talk to it? Or does voice commands have to be enabled for their nation, no matter what language they speak?

It's a common misconception that the US has a national language, we do not, so just saying voice commands work in the United States is not the same as saying English and Spanish are supported in all Countries.

they are probably making things up as they go. let this hit news site and we'll just wait for clarification on their part.

 

[Quadraphonic]

Of course, we already knew it was a lie when they were skipping Portugal but not Brazil.

The big question is, why did Albert say it was localization issues if this was going to be revealed at launch?

 

[Guymelef]

What do you expect him to say? Everyone should have expected that, he's a nice guy and all but if you expect him to repeat anything other than Microsoft's PR you're gonna have a bad time.

Sometimes it's better to remain silent.

 

[Kleegamefan]

Just waiting to see how concerning/troubling this news is to IGN executive editors :/

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Three languages supported at launch? So, what are those features that set it apart from the PS4 again? At least you don't need to speak any specific language to lean.

Just waiting to see how concerning/troubling this news is to IGN executive editors :/

Will it even be mentioned?

 

[stryke]

Just waiting to see how concerning/troubling this news is to IGN executive editors :/

Yeah...I lol'd.