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Rumor: PlayStation 4 gets graphically definitive version of Watch_Dogs

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antitrop

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I swear the future better not make ANY room for that BS.....otherwise I don't understand the difference in architecture if that is going to be the case....I mean who cares? Just copy the other platform's hardware and label them Sony or MS and all games released for each platform will be the same given the 'parity for political reasons' at the end of the day. Just use each platform to its fullest (and creative) abilities, which ever console is unable to do this or that, that is on the architects that designed said console and nothing more.
The next Naughty Dog game is going to be fucking amazing, bro. That's what.
 
Uhh no. A 660ti is enough to run WD at a better quality than the ps4 plus if I'm not mistaken WD will get exclusive visual features from nvidia. You think 4k is needed to top consoles when 1080p isn't guaranteed at the moment? Not to shit on the consoles like you're shitting on PC users, but the PC version is gonna see higher assets on top of better performance.

I highly doubt 660ti will be enough. If so, there won't be such a large buzz about Mantle that's coming from AMD.

Also a PC running a 660ti will not run WD better than a PC running a 680. And that PC with 680 will not run it better than a PC with 780 etc.

So unless you have the absolute top of the line PC, you're not gonna get the definitive version. There's always a bigger fish.

Edit: I don't remember shitting on PC users?
 

Skeff

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Uhh no. A 660ti is enough to run WD at a better quality than the ps4 plus if I'm not mistaken WD will get exclusive visual features from nvidia. You think 4k is needed to top consoles really?

He didn't say to beat the PS4 he said to get the definitive version.

With your 660ti (which may or may not beat out the PS4, it beats a 7850 but your forgetting about the inherent advantages of a closed platform) you wouldn't have the definitive version, because someone with a Titan, would have a better version which would then be the definitive version, then someone with 2 titans would come along and that would be the definitive version.

Then again, maybe your monitor is only 1080p/60hz(and therefore no more than 60fps) and someone is running it on a 1440p monitor at 60fps on a less powerful card, which would be the definitive version?

Variable hardware (and software) cannot be compared to fixed hardware with absolutes such as "definitive"
 

jaypah

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Link? That's what the rumor in OP says.

"Both hit 30fps easy. I think Xbox One suffers a few dips from 60fps. PS4 is pretty smooth. Definitive version"

Both hit 30fps easy. Xbone in 60fps have drops and PS4 is pretty smooth [60fps]... and Ubisoft both will run at 30fps... I mean they are holding the PS4 performance.

Sorry, you said it so definitely and with such concern and sorrow I thought you had read confirmation somewhere. My bad!
 

IN&OUT

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I should have considered the title " Expected PC tea party, don't even bother with consoles", Classy PC gaf, so classy indeed.
 
All these official statements recently from companies about how "they are trying to meet certain resolution and certain framerate" means they are struggling, and from the specs we know they will be struggling with one machine more than the other. DF is going to be happy, they'll have a job to do next gen!!
 

ethomaz

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Sorry, you said it so definitely and with such concern and sorrow I thought you had read confirmation somewhere. My bad!
Sorry... I forget the ? at the end... I was asking if I understood the rumor right.

PS. English is not my primary language.
 

badb0y

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I like this new narrative of fuck consoles go PC version that people going on here. Unlike the balance narrative at least this one is based on facts.
 
I have a launch PS4 ordered mainly for this game but every new video released for WD makes me regret getting the game. I'll get the system on launch for sure but I'm thinking about canceling my WD preorder for something else. And no, it has nothing to do with GTA.
 

ethomaz

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Ohhhhhhh god... this is so real... like a boss.
 
It's more like people in here being such a stickler for 100% accuracy of every sentence. Everyone knows the PC version will always be the best and everyone should have known what the statement in the OP and thread titles actually meant, that it's the definitive console version. But let's get all offended that they didn't say it the most correct way.

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one on the internet who understands what comments are implying instead of just taking them at 100% face value.

I highly doubt 660ti will be enough. If so, there won't be such a large buzz about Mantle that's coming from AMD.

Also a PC running a 660ti will not run WD better than a PC running a 680. And that PC with 680 will not run it better than a PC with 780 etc.

So unless you have the absolute top of the line PC, you're not gonna get the definitive version. There's always a bigger fish.

Edit: I don't remember shitting on PC users?

He didn't say to beat the PS4 he said to get the definitive version.

With your 660ti (which may or may not beat out the PS4, it beats a 7850 but your forgetting about the inherent advantages of a closed platform) you wouldn't have the definitive version, because someone with a Titan, would have a better version which would then be the definitive version, then someone with 2 titans would come along and that would be the definitive version.

Then again, maybe your monitor is only 1080p/60hz(and therefore no more than 60fps) and someone is running it on a 1440p monitor at 60fps on a less powerful card, which would be the definitive version?

Variable hardware (and software) cannot be compared to fixed hardware with absolutes such as "definitive"

And we're done here. Debate over.

getting back to the topic of the thread... Some are saying this is a shit unreliable source and some are saying this is the same guy who accurately predicted the xbone up clock. Which one is it?
 

RaikuHebi

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I have a launch PS4 ordered mainly for this game but every new video released for WD makes me regret getting the game. I'll get the system on launch for sure but I'm thinking about canceling my WD preorder for something else. And no, it has nothing to do with GTA.
Knack it.
 

UNCMark

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I like this new narrative of fuck consoles go PC version that people going on here. Unlike the balance narrative at least this one is based on facts.

How is this a new narrative? It's been like that since about 2008 when consoles started falling well behind PCs again.
 

sqwarlock

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I like this new narrative of fuck consoles go PC version that people going on here. Unlike the balance narrative at least this one is based on facts.

I'd much rather hear things like, "PC, Xbox One, PS4? Who cares, just get the one you want and enjoy it." I'm just as tired of "PC MASTER RACE" as I am the bickering between Sony and Microsoft fans. This past gen I gamed on PC, PS3, and 360, and enjoyed each system. I'm planning on continuing that trend next-gen by getting a new video card for my PC, a PS4 at launch, and an Xbox One down the road once it gets some exclusives I'm interested in.
 

IN&OUT

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The PS4 is a bit more powerful, every console multiplat should perform better on it. Nothing to see here.

Then tell me how come EDGE thread about PS4/X1 power is reaching 7000+ posts?

There is something to see here, which should silence the power doubter of the green camp (X1 not nVidia calm down MASTER RACE), but X1 defenders are hiding behind the big daddy (PC) which successfully derailed this thread into PC this and PC that.
 
We have three groups:

PS4 Group: They want to prove that 50% difference is gonna show.

X1 Group: They believe that this 50% on paper is not enough to show differences.

PC MASTER RACE: Will derail the thread into PC regardless of everybody knowing that PC will ALWAYS be superior to consoles.


No PS4 group doesn't wanna prove anything. We just want both systems to be used to their full potential.
 

Twio

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Guys, Examiner made this shit up. The source is this article, you can see the link at the bottom. NO WHERE does it say PS4 is getting a definitive edition. It doesn't even go anywhere near into this bullshit speculation.

Welp, there goes my hope for 1080p & an unlocked frame rate.
 

Skeff

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Are you really bitter that PC Gamers ruined your "let's make fun of the xbox one" thread?

Theres been hardly any laughing at xb1, theres been more laughing at the Wii U being compared with PS360 and general "yay, no false parity, PS4 version should be good

Very little shitting on XB1 IMO.
 

vpance

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Can't wait to see side by side comparisons and everyone who backed Microsoft has to swallow their words in despair.

How to learn to love 900p and 30 FPS.

-More film like in blur and framerate
-Easier to invoke nostalgia of the good ol' days of PS360 @ 720p30
-Enforces the discipline of sitting further away from the TV protecting oneself from harmful electronic emissions
 

IN&OUT

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Are you really bitter that PC Gamers ruined your "let's make fun of the xbox one" thread?

I expected rational discussion about the topic at hand, EDGE article are reaching 7000+ post debating this power difference, and once we finally have something to further the discussion, we have PC masters who just ruined the thread. got what happened?
 
If a poster posts a post about power and seems to be acting as though PC and/or WiiU don't exist, you can assume it was intentional. ;)

Its updated with bullshit that even contradicts its own bullshit. 30 FPS is the max they are going for yet supposedly the PS4 does 60 FPS
When a dev says they're targeting 30fps (or whatever), they generally mean that's the minimum acceptable frame rate, not the maximum. :p
 
Even if the article is bullshit. We know for a fact that PS4 is more powerful. No reason why multi platform console(notice how I said console) games shouldn't perform better on PS4.
 
I call BS, people are so quick to post and jump on Xbone.
Please look at this then... OMG maybe I should make a new thread (jazz hands).
http://www.oxm.co.uk/57743/watch-dogs-will-have-a-more-dynamic-city-on-xbox-one/

"These improvements will also stretch to the AI: "We're also able to spend more time giving brains to the other people on the streets so that they can basically be smarter, and there can be more of them." Ultimately, Guay makes the claim that "The way the city reacts to you, we are able to push further on the Xbox One."
 

Freki

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I expected rational discussion about the topic at hand, EDGE article are reaching 7000+ post debating this power difference, and once we finally have something to further the discussion, we have PC masters who just ruined the thread. got what happened?

Sorry - you post a thread stating that the PS4 will get the "graphically definitive version of Watch_Dogs" and expect PC Gamers to just ignore it?
I am all for rational discussions about the power difference between PS4 and Xbox One - but the threads should be labeled accordingly then ;-)
 

badb0y

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How is this a new narrative? It's been like that since about 2008 when consoles started falling well behind PCs again.
High-end PCs are always ahead of consoles and the Spongebob is yellow. We don't need to keep repeating something that is established as a fact.
I'd much rather hear things like, "PC, Xbox One, PS4? Who cares, just get the one you want and enjoy it." I'm just as tired of "PC MASTER RACE" as I am the bickering between Sony and Microsoft fans. This past gen I gamed on PC, PS3, and 360, and enjoyed each system. I'm planning on continuing that trend next-gen by getting a new video card for my PC, a PS4 at launch, and an Xbox One down the road once it gets some exclusives I'm interested in.
Why did you even enter this thread then? This is obviously a thread about the technical difference in consoles that is leading to a difference in graphics quality, something that a lot of people here try to downplay on a daily basis.
 

mavs

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I expected rational discussion about the topic at hand, EDGE article are reaching 7000+ post debating this power difference, and once we finally have something to further the discussion, we have PC masters who just ruined the thread. got what happened?

Then make a thread saying this game is better on PS4, which is not a surprise, instead of a thread saying the PS4 version is the best version, which would be a big surprise.

I call BS, people are so quick to post and jump on Xbone.
Please look at this then... OMG maybe I should make a new thread (jazz hands).
http://www.oxm.co.uk/57743/watch-dogs-will-have-a-more-dynamic-city-on-xbox-one/

"These improvements will also stretch to the AI: "We're also able to spend more time giving brains to the other people on the streets so that they can basically be smarter, and there can be more of them." Ultimately, Guay makes the claim that "The way the city reacts to you, we are able to push further on the Xbox One."

All this seems to align with what Ubisoft told us about how the Xbox 360 and Xbox One versions would differ back at E3

C'mon.
 
I call BS, people are so quick to post and jump on Xbone.
Please look at this then... OMG maybe I should make a new thread (jazz hands).
http://www.oxm.co.uk/57743/watch-dogs-will-have-a-more-dynamic-city-on-xbox-one/

"These improvements will also stretch to the AI: "We're also able to spend more time giving brains to the other people on the streets so that they can basically be smarter, and there can be more of them." Ultimately, Guay makes the claim that "The way the city reacts to you, we are able to push further on the Xbox One."

An article about how the xbone version will push further than the 360 version? okay...
 
I expected rational discussion about the topic at hand, EDGE article are reaching 7000+ post debating this power difference, and once we finally have something to further the discussion, we have PC masters who just ruined the thread. got what happened?
I'm not sure what you expect when you're not exactly setting a blazing trail for the level of discourse:
There is something to see here, which should silence the power doubter of the green camp (X1 not nVidia calm down MASTER RACE), but X1 defenders are hiding behind the big daddy (PC) which successfully derailed this thread into PC this and PC that.
 
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