There's really nothing special about that. Sorry but after hearing this nonsense about bf4, I'd rather buy knack with my money.
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XB1 Retail Version of Battlefield 4 Will Still Run at 720p, 60 FPS, EA Rep confirms
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DigitalDevilSummoner
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quoted for importance.
true talk right here.
Small and sexy with internal Power brick. need more?
gigantor21
Member
Yeah, I was speaking more in general. Indeed, I've tended to avoid shooters as a whole because of that. The Bioshock games and the Tomb Raider reboot are the only ones I've really spent a lot of time with this gen.
TheBioLover
Member
Jesus, some of the overreactions and people saying they're going PC only are hilarious.
Daffy Duck
Member
This really is making my XO decision even harder.
Such a headache choosing again which one to get at release.
I want/expect decent performance for my money. What are we likely to see in 3 years time? That's the worrying part for me with the XO.
Such a headache choosing again which one to get at release.
I want/expect decent performance for my money. What are we likely to see in 3 years time? That's the worrying part for me with the XO.
that's not how it works. It's the gpu that determines that.
TheRealTalker
Banned
lol so where back to square one now of knowing nothing.... for both platforms
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm not buying a single game with enforced parity unless we're talking about indie and small games that should easily be running maxed on both systems.
Jawbreaker
Member
Yeah, that's the one thing I can see making it difficult. Perhaps if we weren't already so close to launch, though it could potentially be effective to prevent it from happening in future titles.
mugurumakensei
Member
Same as PS4, and PS4 doesn't have 8 GB vram it has 8 gigs ram for gpu and cpu purposes. So, it's 8 gigs total for system and graphics purposes.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Those graphics drivers must be fucking shit atm.
Why are MS so unprepared?
Why are MS so unprepared?
SirButterstick
Banned
This is a game that needs to be played on the PC. It's the definitive version.
Felix Lighter
Member
What if the game has improved textures or higher quality AA or SSAO on the PS4? When is the extra effort put into the Sony version considered enough to justify a purchase?
To be fair, ALL Sony exclusives are running at 1080p, it just DICE didn't bother to push PS4, or being $$$$$$ to keep parity with X1.
I agree. - but to be fair it's a launch title that has a 60fps target and large scale so people need to adjust their expectations a bit. The hardware in the consoles is known and it isn't magic.
They've got 5 to work with for both CPU and GPU, basically, not 8 after all is said and done
iLLmaticV3
Member
This is upsetting. Unnecessary console parity is upsetting.
Well seeing as how every console i can think of seemed to get much better performance out of games through the years after launch, i would imagine it will be the same deal here. Lets compare 360 launch titles with the likes of Gear 3, Halo 4 and Forza Horizon. Lets look at the PS3 launch titles and compare them to the likes of Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 or GOW3.
Why are we gauging the lifetime performance of a console based on the launch titles all of a sudden?
Killzone 2( the one that i played) had a pretty underwhelming campaign. That game's saving grace is it's graphics.
AgentP
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1080P frame buffer doesn't use much space, 10's of MB depending on how many buffers and what type (i.e. FP16).
KingGreasy
Member
This is disappointing but I can deal with it. In the next couple of years I'll do a new build for SteamOS. Right now a 7970 is already significantly stronger than the PS4 GPU. The R9-290 looks absolutely awesome. A couple years that kind of performance will only be like $200. Steamroller or Excavator shouldn't matter, they'll both be more than enough for a gaming PC.
Mantle and SteamOS/linux are promising better performance and I for sure will be going Linux for my next gaming PC. Probably Linux Mint unless SteamOS has a fully functioning desktop then that might do. Last gen targeted 1280x720. I played at 1920x1080. This gen they're trying to target 1920x1080 with varying success but even then I'll still be playing at 1920x1080 so the performance hit with a higher resolution monitor probably won't be as bad as last gen.
The next gen consoles aren't powerhouses but if you're a multiplatform gamer PC/PS4 or PC/XboxOne then I guess it should be fine if you're really looking for that eyecandy. If only these were 3-4tflop machines. Imagine the next DOA Xtreme Beach Volleyball on that.
Mantle and SteamOS/linux are promising better performance and I for sure will be going Linux for my next gaming PC. Probably Linux Mint unless SteamOS has a fully functioning desktop then that might do. Last gen targeted 1280x720. I played at 1920x1080. This gen they're trying to target 1920x1080 with varying success but even then I'll still be playing at 1920x1080 so the performance hit with a higher resolution monitor probably won't be as bad as last gen.
The next gen consoles aren't powerhouses but if you're a multiplatform gamer PC/PS4 or PC/XboxOne then I guess it should be fine if you're really looking for that eyecandy. If only these were 3-4tflop machines. Imagine the next DOA Xtreme Beach Volleyball on that.
Laughing_Man__
Neo Member
*Raises hand*
QUESTION!
Why are we freaking out at the first wave of games?
QUESTION!
Why are we freaking out at the first wave of games?
SoldierGryphon
Banned
Geez people, we're talking about rushed out launch titles. Compare the graphics of Call of Duty 2 to Call of Duty: Black Ops 2.
I'm sure more games in the future will look better and run in 1080p.
Edit: btw, probably could have made the game 1080p if people hadn't been so demanding about 60fps.
I'm sure more games in the future will look better and run in 1080p.
Edit: btw, probably could have made the game 1080p if people hadn't been so demanding about 60fps.
GameSeeker
Member
I will make the same comment I made in the Ubisoft thread.
Sony will deliver Killzone:SF, Driveclub, Knack, Resogun, and Infamous:SS all running at 1080p on the PS4. This sets the bar for the PS4 and clearly demonstrates that 1080p games are not only doable, but doable with very high quality graphics on the PS4.
If EA/DICE can't deliver games at 1080p on the PS4, then they aren't as good at game development as they think they are. If DICE can't deliver 1080p then they should ask Sony for help. Delivering a 720p or 900p game just shows that they don't have the proper skillset or they just don't care.
Sony will deliver Killzone:SF, Driveclub, Knack, Resogun, and Infamous:SS all running at 1080p on the PS4. This sets the bar for the PS4 and clearly demonstrates that 1080p games are not only doable, but doable with very high quality graphics on the PS4.
If EA/DICE can't deliver games at 1080p on the PS4, then they aren't as good at game development as they think they are. If DICE can't deliver 1080p then they should ask Sony for help. Delivering a 720p or 900p game just shows that they don't have the proper skillset or they just don't care.
Everything is a case-by-case basis, but again, it's become enough of a concern to warrant not buying 3rd party titles until they're in the wild and gamers know what they're getting.
At this point, I'm just getting the console and waiting on reviews/general consensus/the DF verdict.
iamvin22
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Eclectic Jabber Monkey
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1 minute left in BF4 Beta download...
DigitalDevilSummoner
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yeah because bringing a 300+ $ card into the discussion is so constructive
HORRORSHØW
Member
Actually is that true?
The 360 could only output a framebuffer from eDRAM. It could not from the unified memory. Does anyone know whether XBone has a similar constraint?
Because there is a console war going on! The narrative from some is that the X1 was weak and MS is paying for console parity, so they are holding back the PS4 version! Has nothing to do with devs getting a handle on new hardware which has traditionally been a rough transition in the past. It's what happens when two consoles are releasing in the same month.
PodcastFips
Member
Do you guys really think it's possible that Microsoft moneyhats third party developers to force parity on both platforms?
I always thought DICE were trying to be perfectionists in what they do, and stuff like this could really hurt their image.
KZ:SF multiplayer for example.
I always thought DICE were trying to be perfectionists in what they do, and stuff like this could really hurt their image.
KZ:SF multiplayer for example.
gigantor21
Member
- Hardware makers overselling their shit (as usual)
- "In-engine" renders and PC footage used for promotion (as usual)
- x86 architecture with 8GB of RAM and off-the-shelf parts for both consoles
- The 360 came out 8 fucking years ago
- Killzone and Forza running at 1080p (and 60fps in Forza's case)
And so on.
TBH, though, I'm much more worried about the games themselves than what resolution they run at.
Laughing_Man__
Neo Member
babyghost853
Member
Same, a friend of mine ask me why I didn't pre order any games, to which I replied, "why should I? It's not like I won't be able to pick up any game I want in the stores". When was the last time people had a hard time finding a new game in stores?
I plan to play DC all the ftp stuff on PS4 at launch, it will give me time to see whats good and whats not. By the time I'm finished with those, I'll know if I'm going to get the full version of DC, and all the dust will have settled around the third party stuff.
Call of Duty 2 = 1280x720/30fps
Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 = 880x720/60fps
So BF5 will look better than BF4 but be lower than 720p, or 720p once again?
Laughing_Man__
Neo Member
The video quality is kinda crap.
I'm saving this and using it for any time in the future.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
I thought the ESRAM is very expensive, and that would have pushed the price of the Xbone significantly?
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
is this guy a shill? I'm pretty sure I've only seen him promote the ps4 and talk shit about the xb1.
why is he not banned like the Microsoft shill from the eurogamer or edge thread that said something positive about the xb1 and was banned immediately?
But that's not true? It's a shared pool of memory meaning it can be used as VRAM with a variable ratio? To some degree at least. Which in the end must mean that it has more available video memory if you want it to?
Amen to that.
I know it's not that easy, but Sony should really be pushing developers to get the best out of the PS4 with their games. Bring out the chequebook if necessary. The PS4 is going to be market leader meaning most of (in this case EA)'s customers will be on PS4. It will be in their best interests to ship the best product they can.
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