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PS4 XMB @ EuroGamer Expo (Off screen footage)

coolasj19

Why are you reading my tag instead of the title of my post?
This thread has changed from XMB shots to Tidux to Touchpads to R3. Where will it go next?
Isn't that how the 360 labels the R3 buttons?
 

viveks86

Member
Is Tidux legit or not? Bish didn't say anything.

Ssshhhh! May be Bish had a rough day after the weekend and forgot. Don't remind him. Tidux seems like a fun chap, regardless of his mysterious background. We want to keep him ;)

He's legit........right?

I hope he is. I'm not even a few weeks old here and I've seen enough people bite the dust! Watching him go would make me a sad panda.
 

Yoday

Member
A quicky.
in a open world game like GTA V how would you like to see implemented touchpad controls on a DS4 to improve the game?
With a game like GTAV that has cover based shooting, I think that the touchpad could be really intuitive for alternative cover controls. You could swipe up to snap into cover, swipe down to back out of the cover, and swipe side to side for cover swapping. I think it would feel much better than having to point the analog stick and press a button in those kinds of games. This is of course assuming that the touchpad is easy to access during gameplay.
 

coolasj19

Why are you reading my tag instead of the title of my post?
If he's not legit, he has some serious balls to keep posting like he is =D
If you are legit Tidux, welcome.
If you're not, welcome.
 

Tidux

Member
With a game like GTAV that has cover based shooting, I think that the touchpad could be really intuitive for alternative cover controls. You could swipe up to snap into cover, swipe down to back out of the cover, and swipe side to side for cover swapping. I think it would feel much better than having to point the analog stick and press a button in those kinds of games. This is of course assuming that the touchpad is easy to access during gameplay.

Cool idea
 

viveks86

Member
With a game like GTAV that has cover based shooting, I think that the touchpad could be really intuitive for alternative cover controls. You could swipe up to snap into cover, swipe down to back out of the cover, and swipe side to side for cover swapping. I think it would feel much better than having to point the analog stick and press a button in those kinds of games. This is of course assuming that the touchpad is easy to access during gameplay.

Me likey!
 

FeiRR

Banned
This thread has changed from XMB shots to Tidux to Touchpads to R3. Where will it go next?
Isn't that how the 360 labels the R3 buttons?

It is quite a problem: how to name (symbolically) the new controls available with touchpad. You can write "swipe up" in English but how to replace it with an icon for other languages? How to tell people it's up on the touchpad, not analog stick or d-pad?
 

coolasj19

Why are you reading my tag instead of the title of my post?
It is quite a problem: how to name (symbolically) the new controls available with touchpad. You can write "swipe up" in English but how to replace it with an icon for other languages? How to tell people it's up on the touchpad, not analog stick or d-pad?

I always consistently under-estimate people but, I don't think people are that dumb. Then again, I can see the confusion creeping in. Especially since when the Vita launched I heard a story of someone watching a person trying to navigate the UI. He tried using all the buttons, failed, and got frustrated and left. This was back when the only way to control it was through touching the screen.
 

viveks86

Member
It is quite a problem: how to name (symbolically) the new controls available with touchpad. You can write "swipe up" in English but how to replace it with an icon for other languages? How to tell people it's up on the touchpad, not analog stick or d-pad?

Don't think they can standardize that. The trackpad may support custom gestures (not sure). If it does, there would be gestures that cannot even be described in 1 or 2 words, let alone symbols.
 
I'd love it if consoles gave us the choice between multiple environments, like we can do on Linux.
I love XMB, and one of the many reasons I'm not getting an Xbox is because of Metro. So in options, if you could switch between Tiles, XMB, and other environments... That would make me over the moon.

I don't care if they even charge for additional styles... Just give me a way to make things play my way.
 

TOYCOFFIN

Banned
Don't think they can standardize that. The trackpad may support custom gestures (not sure). If it does, there would be gestures that cannot even be described in 1 or 2 words, let alone symbols.

I dunno seems pretty easy.

Touchpads are wholly universal these days. A thumb icon showing movement and an up arrow or combination of both would be fine.

Or apparently this is pretty close
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Could even change the circle to the rectangular shape of the touchpad.
 

Chobel

Member
With a game like GTAV that has cover based shooting, I think that the touchpad could be really intuitive for alternative cover controls. You could swipe up to snap into cover, swipe down to back out of the cover, and swipe side to side for cover swapping. I think it would feel much better than having to point the analog stick and press a button in those kinds of games. This is of course assuming that the touchpad is easy to access during gameplay.

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velociraptor

Junior Member
With a game like GTAV that has cover based shooting, I think that the touchpad could be really intuitive for alternative cover controls. You could swipe up to snap into cover, swipe down to back out of the cover, and swipe side to side for cover swapping. I think it would feel much better than having to point the analog stick and press a button in those kinds of games. This is of course assuming that the touchpad is easy to access during gameplay.
Or have a dynamic cover system like The Last Of Us.

You don't have to press a button to snap in cover. The game does it automatically based on your proximity to the wall. It also pops over the shoulder over cover if you tap L1. It feels fantastic.
 
Looks GUUUREAAAAT! Hate how people were complaining in other threads how they will miss the XMB and how they hate the new OS. THE XMB IS STILL THERE!
 

KeRaSh

Member
Better late than never but I really like the UI. I was afraid that Sony might ditch the whole XMB concept but this looks like a really good evolution of the previous system.
 

viveks86

Member
I dunno seems pretty easy.

Touchpads are wholly universal these days. A thumb icon showing movement and an up arrow or combination of both would be fine.

Or apparently this is pretty close. Could even change the circle to the rectangular shape of the touchpad.

I was really referring to more free form gestures or combination of movements that invoke an action. Also the pad is clickable, which could be combined with gestures as well. A single symbol may not be able to convey that. They would have to make sequences of symbols, like the move set for a fighting game. That's what I meant by the lack of a standardized set of symbols. If the touch pad is fully programmable, it becomes the developer's responsibility to convey a complex gesture in the most intuitive way, as opposed to a standard they can follow.
 

andycapps

Member
Re: Tidux question for ideas for touchpad on new controller.. Anybody else feel like the new controller with the speaker, microphone included, touch pad, etc would be perfect for a game like Manhunt?
 

Tsundere

Banned
How practical is the speaker in the DS4? I can't imagine it being anything other than a gimmick and being completely useless.
It separates the audio from the primary game stream. Instead of having all the sounds bleed from the main Output you'll have more "directed" sound through the controller.

For notifications as an example this would be great.
 
For notifications as an example this would be great.

Excellent example, I think it would work just fine for that purpose. But I can't imagine any actual dialogue or sound effects being broadcast through that speaker and it be any good. I'm just imagining explosions or dialogue being transmitted through my iphone speaker.
 

viveks86

Member
Eh, not really, the OPTIONS button in that image is also wrongly called OPTION, and R3 and L3 will most likely stay. RS can't function as R3 in a manual and RS click is not used.

You may be right. There are so many things wrong with that image. I guess we need to wait and see what the final control scheme looks like when Bungie officially releases it.
 
You may be right. There are so many things wrong with that image. I guess we need to wait and see what the final control scheme looks like when Bungie officially releases it.

Stuff like this happens more often than people may think with games in development, placeholders everywhere :) Specially with a new generation.
 

Yoday

Member
It separates the audio from the primary game stream. Instead of having all the sounds bleed from the main Output you'll have more "directed" sound through the controller.

For notifications as an example this would be great.
That is a good idea. I never really thought about notifications being able to come through that speaker. My main worry is about the quality of the speaker though. If it is on par with the quality of the speaker in the Wii Remote, then my answer is use it for absolutely nothing, ever.
 
With a game like GTAV that has cover based shooting, I think that the touchpad could be really intuitive for alternative cover controls. You could swipe up to snap into cover, swipe down to back out of the cover, and swipe side to side for cover swapping. I think it would feel much better than having to point the analog stick and press a button in those kinds of games. This is of course assuming that the touchpad is easy to access during gameplay.

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never thought about this
 

Tidux

Member
so, if someone upps the gpu by 6.6%, and then reserve 10% for kinect on the gpu, how is that an upgrade?
can someone lend us some more DS4!, guys preorder them now!.

"you're fucking out i'm fucking in"

//Tidux
 

kornklown69

Neo Member
so, if someone upps the gpu by 6.6%, and then reserve 10% for kinect on the gpu, how is that an upgrade?
can someone lend us some more DS4!, guys preorder them now!.

"you're fucking out i'm fucking in"

//Tidux
is the ds4 going to be in short supply at launch?! better go preorder 5!
 

KoopaTheCasual

Junior Member
so, if someone upps the gpu by 6.6%, and then reserve 10% for kinect on the gpu, how is that an upgrade?
can someone lend us some more DS4!, guys preorder them now!.

"you're fucking out i'm fucking in"

//Tidux

lol, Tidux going full irrelevant console warrior on us.
 
so, if someone upps the gpu by 6.6%, and then reserve 10% for kinect on the gpu, how is that an upgrade?
can someone lend us some more DS4!, guys preorder them now!.

"you're fucking out i'm fucking in"

//Tidux

Wait... are you saying Microsoft increased the clock of their gup but then still reserved 10% for kinect and OS app?
 

Satchel

Banned
Looked too much like XMB to me.

But then it wasn't signed in so I assume we'll see something more substantial when its signed in?
 

Yoday

Member
so, if someone upps the gpu by 6.6%, and then reserve 10% for kinect on the gpu, how is that an upgrade?
can someone lend us some more DS4!, guys preorder them now!.

"you're fucking out i'm fucking in"

//Tidux
This isn't the only thread on GAF Tidux.

This thread owes it's life to Tidux apparently making this thread his GAF bookmark.
 

kornklown69

Neo Member
This isn't the only thread on GAF Tidux.

This thread owes it's life to Tidux apparently making this thread his GAF bookmark.
its the only thread im subscribed to.. i havent been this hyped since well.. the ps3 Rigby rumors... or "guesses"
 

jwk94

Member
So I started playing Assassin's Creed 2 and I really would love it if the switching weapons mechanic was mapped to the touchpad for Assassin's Creed 4 (assuming they haven't altered this somehow further in the series).
 

SHADES

Member
so, if someone upps the gpu by 6.6%, and then reserve 10% for kinect on the gpu, how is that an upgrade?
can someone lend us some more DS4!, guys preorder them now!.

"you're fucking out i'm fucking in"

//Tidux

Riddle me this, riddle me that?

Seriously tho, translation please if you'll be so kind, thanks.
 

Prelude.

Member
so, if someone upps the gpu by 6.6%, and then reserve 10% for kinect on the gpu, how is that an upgrade?
can someone lend us some more DS4!, guys preorder them now!.

"you're fucking out i'm fucking in"

//Tidux

We found our Sony's cboat, finally.
 

magawolaz

Member
so, if someone upps the gpu by 6.6%, and then reserve 10% for kinect on the gpu, how is that an upgrade?
can someone lend us some more DS4!, guys preorder them now!.

"you're fucking out i'm fucking in"

//Tidux
:lol :lol :lol

subscribin~
 
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