I was mainly referring to DQXI potentially being a mobile title.
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Dragon Quest 1-8 coming to smartphones.
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I was mainly referring to DQXI potentially being a mobile title.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Seeing what they're doing with Eidos, I don't think they give a crap about their fans.
GhostTrick
Banned
Of course I'm sure that SE can sell a more than 40 to 50 Dragon Quest title on smartphones (won't happen)
Also going by the way of your thinking, computers also has earned DQXI ?
The problem here is that you count a smartphone sold as a gaming platform sold.
That's not the case. But when a 3DS is sold, it's a gaming platform sold.
While I don't think quality is the probleme here, I just think that smartphones aren't made to play lenghty games. It's basically either you use it to play OR use it to phone. I don't want to have no more battery at the middle of the day because 1 hour of DQ8 killed my phone.
Also, while I loved DQIX as a multiplayer game, it was kinda boring on solo. TBH DQIV to VIII were all better IMO.
Petrae
Member
Considering that the potential customer base is so large for the mobile sector, this is really a great move. Granted, there may be some pushback if the pricing remains ridiculously high-- as it's been for the Final Fantasy games-- but you appeal to the widest range of people by putting these games on mobile devices.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Loved them, but DQVIII took the series to another level, which is why I felt IX was a step back.
Mobile phones would be even a bigger step back.
Case in point FFV on ios.
It doesn't really matter if they're sold as gaming platforms. They're used as gaming platforms, as SE are well aware.
It's not like the platform choice affected the story, characters, or personality, that was just the direction Square Enix chose to and continues to steer the franchise towards.
Very, true. It'll be easier to work with the Vita, but they got DQ7 on 3DS, so what's the excuse?
Box of Bunnies
Banned
I liked IX well enough but didn't love it and while the actual little vignette-y side story stuff in the villages (the bits were story is of any import in DQ) was good in IX, the problem was the lack of any personality from the party characters given that they were just dolls you dressed up. Yeah, DQ isn't story heavy, but the party members were interesting and fun before (at least in the DS games and VIII, I know you didn't have a party in 1 and haven't played 2, 3 or 7).
Anyway, I already said my problem with mobile games:
"The problem is when you want to actually invest any decent amount of time into them without setting your hands on fire or chewing up battery you want to use for actual phone functionality."
Of course this isn't a bad business decision. It's going make mad bank for Square-Enix.
maniac-kun
Member
They better localise everything and bring it to europe.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
But trend also effects the series. IX was more akin to Monster Hunter, right? With missions, local multi-play, etc. Which explains the bare bones story.
Just imagine if DQXI was a mobile game. The IAP frenzy and if it was F2P!!!
GhostTrick
Banned
It was a smart move at the time, I'd guess.
Doesn't matter when the numbers are as big as they are. Smartphone gaming is larger than dedicated gaming over there.
sublimit
Banned
If anyone will be surprised or angry it will be their own fault.The writing is on the wall for a long time now.
Heh people said that about the first BD sequel before it was announced to be headed to 3DS IIRC.
cascardian
Member
Knowing SE it would be p2p with iap.
Palette Swap
Member
Only some fans, let's not pretend it's everyone.
I'm one of them but that ship sailed a long time ago, with DQIX.
I wasn't a fan of DQIX because I felt it was taylored as a game on the go with social (multiplayer) elements. This approach was validated by sales so I don't see why they'd somehow go back and sink huge development costs into a "high fidelity" single player experience. That's the approach SE has taken with FF and KH and so far, they don't have much to show for it.
Bingo. Adding mobile support is only the logical next step.
People should also bear in mind DQ is meant to be played by the largest possible demographics, they're casual as hell and thrive on that mind share. Hence NES > SNES > PS1 > PS2 > DS. In that regard, having mobile presence (not necessarily exclusivity) makes sense.
Dragon Quest IX's direction was decided long before Monster Hunter took off.
And then they expanded upon that even further with Dragon Quest X, which was on more powerful hardware (though it can also be seen as a failure in comparison).
They're not changing the franchise based on the hardware, they're choosing the platforms which would best serve their vision.
michaelius
Banned
For the sequel is rerelease of first one with new content afaik.
To me it seems more like they just pick the platform that will make them the most money and then form a vision around that.
It would be a case of them either wanting to spend less money or making it something that would be a better fit for playing in shorter sessions.
If they can get DQVIII running on smartphones, I don't see why they can't make DQXI as good or even better.
Winnie the Pimp
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I already didn't want to live on this planet anymore but after this announcement... i don't even ugh
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Nobody here's arguing about the install base. The concern of most of us is that we might not see DQ on our preferred consoles and that by going mobile, the series might suffer a downgrade in quality due to the shitty practices that mobile usually brings, like micro transactions for example.
Then Dragon Quest X would've been on DS or PSP.
Is there really no room in this modern day and age for an epic single player RPG?
I feel sad. Really want them to make another game in the vein of DQ8 but more refined, with faster battle, job system, more than 4 characters. Sad but I don't think we are going to see that for a while...
Looks like its time for me to go back to enjoying DQ7 3DS.... May be the last DQ game I'll ever play...
I feel sad. Really want them to make another game in the vein of DQ8 but more refined, with faster battle, job system, more than 4 characters. Sad but I don't think we are going to see that for a while...
Looks like its time for me to go back to enjoying DQ7 3DS.... May be the last DQ game I'll ever play...
What I'm saying is that smartphones are capable of handling a DQVIII quality title.
Still waiting for a localization of that.
Earthpainting
Member
A bunch of ports aren't a huge deal to me, but I'm pretty wary of where they'll take it after these. It seems inevitable that the next main entry will be a mobile one as well. I'm aware they've mentioned multiplatform development in a previous interview, but it wouldn't surprise me if that just meant iOS/Android/whatever other mobile OS. Behind my cynicism, I'm still hoping for the best.
I do wonder what version of DQ7 they'll use for their ports. They could tap into the PS1 version or the 3DS one. If they bring over the 3DS version on mobiles in English, I'll be forced to support these ports.
I do wonder what version of DQ7 they'll use for their ports. They could tap into the PS1 version or the 3DS one. If they bring over the 3DS version on mobiles in English, I'll be forced to support these ports.
IX is far from my favourite, but I think VIII is easily one of the weakest entries in the series and would it even put it below several of the spinoffs. Not to say that I think it's a bad game, because it's not. From my perspective it's just one of the flimsiest Dragon Quests out there, earning a lot of its accolades to its impressive presentation and it being many people's first DQ in the west.
Wait. Once they:
- Release FFXV
- Localize Type-0
- Release FF X/X-2 HD
- Release KH 2.5 HD and KH 3
- Announce and release FF XII HD
THEN, they have my permission to die.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
But we don't know how much compromise they did with VIII to make it fit for mobile. For one thing why is it vertical?
But quality is only one issue. Like mentioned before, it's the other things that mobile gaming brings. We all know it. I'm willing to bet SE is going to milk it for all its worth and put in a ton of microtransactions into the game.
sublimit
Banned
Their goal of a MMO monthly subscription model for DQX pretty much required something more powerful than DS/PSP so it was money that made them form their "vision" around the Wii with much less costs in development than if it was on something like a PS3.
Their vision is always based upon the platform that will make them the most money and they would happily sacrifice the extra features another platform choice could give to their games if it meant that they could make more immediate money on a currently better established platform.
I see a lot of people worried if DQ XI will be or not on the 3DS, when after IX and X they should be more concerned about getting a decent DQ at all. I don't want another MMO or an MMO camouflaged as a single player game, which seems just the direction the series is taking.
Right now, I'm more concerned that we might never get a great DQ rpg. DQ VIII might the last one of those sadly.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Will Japan respond well with one of their most beloved franchise turning direction towards smartphone, I wonder.
Mobile phones nowadays are quite powerful, but yeah you're right, it could be a dumbed down port. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
iOS/Android FF ports don't have microtransactions or ads, so hopefully these DQ ports won't have any too.
IIRC DQ games have appeared on mobile phones previously.
KillerTravis
Banned
Good I guess. Unless they decide to start releasing new mainline games exclusively on mobile. Don't shit where you eat SE, don't shit where you eat.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
They'll port the PS1 version to pour extra salt in the wounds, not just any salt but the pink Himalayan salt with extra vinegar!
VIII was to me like Mario 64 was to Super Mario.
Plus the voice acting and character personality was great. I loved it.
IX had no story or personality whatsoever. It wasn't a step back from just VIII but also from IV and V as far a story goes.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Merely appearing on smartphone is different than turning the focus towards smartphones. The latter is I think Square will turn DQ series (and their every fucking goddamn brand under the sun) into.