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[Felix Lighter]

the BF4 beta running so much better on windows 8 then 7 might of been a hint of the xb1 being the superior port... it will be very disappointing tho

That is one bizarre analysis.

 

[k4n3]

hahaha wut

8-7=1

XBOX 1 superior now

they did a very poor job optimizing it for win7 and built this game from the ground up around win8

im not the one saying its going to turn out that the xbone is the one that looks best but if its true it would have to be some crazy reason

 

[frizby]

the BF4 beta running so much better on windows 8 then 7 might of been a hint of the xb1 being the superior port... it will be very disappointing tho

What the actual.

hahaha wut

8-7=1

XBOX 1 superior now

Nice.

 

[Chamber]

the BF4 beta running so much better on windows 8 then 7 might of been a hint of the xb1 being the superior port... it will be very disappointing tho

#dead

This thread has been a treat.

 

[SRTtoZ]

the BF4 beta running so much better on windows 8 then 7 might of been a hint of the xb1 being the superior port... it will be very disappointing tho

Yea makes sense.

 

[Netherscourge]

DX 11.1+ really demands a lot of hardware power.

If anything, it's holding the XB1 back since it has no GDDR5 in it, like most top-end PC video cards do.

GDDR5 lets you push big, HD textures a lot better, but the XB1 only has DDR3 with 32MB of eSRAM of cache.

PC GPUs all pretty much use GDDR5 for their dedicated VRAM and it's because DDR3 alone is a bottleneck.

XB1 fans shouldn't be too proud of DX11 being XB1 exclusive. It's not really a game-changing API for that console.

The fact that the PS4 has GDDR5 AND an open-ended GPU is a significant advantage.

 

[Pug]

DX 11.1+ really demands a lot of hardware power.

If anything, it's holding the XB1 back since it has no GDDR5 in it, like most top-end PC card do.

GDDR5 lets you push big, HD textures a lot better and the XB1 only has DDR3 with 32MB of eSRAM of cache.

PC GPUs all pretty much use GDDR5 now for it's dedicated VRAM and it's because DDR3 alone is a bottleneck.

XB1 fans shouldn't be too proud of DX11 being XB1 exclusive. It's not really a game-changing API for that console.

The fact that the PS4 has GDDR5 AND an open-ended GPU is a significant advantage.

Well that's cleared everything up.

 

[Jburton]

im not saying next gen consoles need to compete with PCs its just funny to watch people fight over scraps, and we all know the PS4 version will look better and if it doesn't DICE dropped the ball big time

Please take the PC shit into a PC thread, stop shitting console threads with your irrelevant horseshit.

 

[Jburton]

A+++ post, quality from beginning to end. Would wholeheartedly recommend to friends, family and coworkers alike.

It's a work of fantasy up there with the greatest.

It's also mental.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

DX 11.1+ really demands a lot of hardware power.

If anything, it's holding the XB1 back since it has no GDDR5 in it, like most top-end PC card do.

GDDR5 lets you push big, HD textures a lot better and the XB1 only has DDR3 with 32MB of eSRAM of cache.

PC GPUs all pretty much use GDDR5 now for it's dedicated VRAM and it's because DDR3 alone is a bottleneck.

XB1 fans shouldn't be too proud of DX11 being XB1 exclusive. It's not really a game-changing API for that console.

The fact that the PS4 has GDDR5 AND an open-ended GPU is a significant advantage.

When you put it that way, its hard to disagree. Powerful posting.

 

[Fersis]

It's thuway banned again? Dude had insider info.

 

[Netherscourge]

Well that's cleared everything up.

Glad to be of help!

(I'm just reiterating what I've seen about the RAM stuff. I honestly don't even know if it's true or not. It just makes me sound really important and knowledgeable to repeat what has been stated elsewhere.)

 

[Rainy Dog]

If either next gen console version was immediately noticeably better than the other, it could very likely come as a surprise to him. I wouldn't get so hung up on the word "surprise." Not everyone is so aware of the spec differences between the 2 next gen consoles.

Exactly.

Jackfrags is a PC gamer and wasn't likely aware of the actual spec differences between the two consoles. The average gamer only visits the main sites such as Eurogamer, IGN, Gamespot etc. and they've been quite disciplined in keeping a lid on the reality.

I'm honestly expecting 1080p vs 720p. Simple as that.

 

[TheOctodad]

It's thuway banned again? Dude had insider info.

Yup, he got banned recently for claiming Thief was 900p for X1 without the two sources needed.

 

[MysticGoujon]

DX 11.1+ really demands a lot of hardware power.

If anything, it's holding the XB1 back since it has no GDDR5 in it, like most top-end PC video cards do.

GDDR5 lets you push big, HD textures a lot better, but the XB1 only has DDR3 with 32MB of eSRAM of cache.

PC GPUs all pretty much use GDDR5 for their dedicated VRAM and it's because DDR3 alone is a bottleneck.

XB1 fans shouldn't be too proud of DX11 being XB1 exclusive. It's not really a game-changing API for that console.

The fact that the PS4 has GDDR5 AND an open-ended GPU is a significant advantage.

Hahaha, you do read some shit on these forums.

 

[Angelus Errare]

The statement "ONE is looks better than the other" coupled with the "surprise" gives makes me suspicious that the X1 version might actually end up better looking. (which I wouldn't understand technology-wise)

Kinda like Final Fantasy X is coming to Xbox.

 

[iceatcs]

At least we don't have to wait for launch. Looking forward what the surprise. A lot of things won't be surprised after what we know about the systems.
But I think only something like XO - 720p/30fps vs PS4 - 1080p/60fps, or other way like xbox one got the advance, these both would be very surprised to me.

 

[wapplew]

I don't know, maybe Xbone really have some secret sauce, some high tech upscaler,
can make 720p/900p look 99% like 1080p, and "surprisingly" look identical to PS4 version.
All those recent Ryse footage, people count the pixel and it look like 1080p.

 

[Chobel]

DX 11.1+ really demands a lot of hardware power.

If anything, it's holding the XB1 back since it has no GDDR5 in it, like most top-end PC video cards do.

GDDR5 lets you push big, HD textures a lot better, but the XB1 only has DDR3 with 32MB of eSRAM of cache.

PC GPUs all pretty much use GDDR5 for their dedicated VRAM and it's because DDR3 alone is a bottleneck.

XB1 fans shouldn't be too proud of DX11 being XB1 exclusive. It's not really a game-changing API for that console.

The fact that the PS4 has GDDR5 AND an open-ended GPU is a significant advantage.

But DirectX 11.1 is just an API, it has nothing to do with GDDR5. And it's not holding Xbox One because Xbox One is not using DirectX 11.1+ (PC) only, it adds more instructions to the API (eSRAM, move engines...etc)

 

[Chobel]

I don't know, maybe Xbone really have some secret sauce, some high tech upscaler,
can make 720p/900p look 99% like 1080p, and "surprisingly" look identical to PS4 version.
All those recent Ryse footage, people count the pixel and it look like 1080p.

Ryse gameplay videos that we saw are definitely rendered in native 1080p.

 

[HariKari]

Ryse gameplay videos that we saw are definitely rendered in native 1080p.

Well, that'd be weird, considering Crytek have openly said it's 900p.

 

[RoboPlato]

let me tell you guys exactly what will happen

Guy will run the SP of XboxOne which has more localized and sharper assets than its MP version. it looks good it looks sharp like every SP version

Then he will run the MP version of PS4 which has multiplayer assets and looks less stellar than SP for obvious reasons. it does not look as sharp as SP.

Comparison will show the Xbox One SP version has slightly better textures and slightly better asset IQ than the MP version of PS4 for obvious reasons.

People who are oblivious to this obvious fact and don't know what really was compared will erupt saying OMG XO footage looks better than PS4. it will be all over twitter and reddit until people finally realise what is the fact. Neogaf will have 200 pages of uninformed folks saying Megaton and WOW everywhere. several meltdowns will occur on both sides and the thread will live in infamy.

This is exactly what will happen and I'll have a stroke while explaining it over and over.

 

[SniperHunter]

Yup, he got banned recently for claiming Thief was 900p for X1 without the two sources needed.

Dang

 

[RedRooster]

If either next gen console version was immediately noticeably better than the other, it could very likely come as a surprise to him. I wouldn't get so hung up on the word "surprise." Not everyone is so aware of the spec differences between the 2 next gen consoles.

Yup. This makes the most sense for sure.
This forum is such a minute slice of the real world, its taken for granted all the time here. Tip of the spear, as they say.

 

[RealityPales]

I wonder if the marketing and DLC deal between Microsoft and EA on Battlefield will see DICE intentionally downgrading the PS4 version in favor of parity with XB1?

Is that too much of a conspiracy theory?

 

[Tau]

If the comparison is SP (XBOX1) v MP (PS4), then it's not even a comparison. More like Microsoft affiliate marketing.

I don't know, maybe Xbone really have some secret sauce, some high tech upscaler,
can make 720p/900p look 99% like 1080p, and "surprisingly" look identical to PS4 version.
All those recent Ryse footage, people count the pixel and it look like 1080p.

Seriously? what are you smoking?

 

[SenjutsuSage]

This guy joined GAF in June and is averaging over 7 posts a day that are about the equivalent of that last gem. I know this may be hard for him to grasp but some of us do have a genuine interest in both consoles. To quote John Boehner here..."This Isn't Some Damn Game!". Well...BF4 is...but the whole system wars isn't. At least it shouldn't be.

I just want to get the best version of BF4. If both are identical than I'm going for the XB1 version because I have a Gold membership good through next summer. That is me grasping at straws to save $50.

I agree on the genuine interest in both consoles part, but I wouldn't use John Boehner's quote as an example, since he hardly ever means what he's saying, at least not if it sounds positive and constructive anyway.

 

[TheOctodad]

The theories in this thread about the Xbox One being upclocked/superior/balanced almost deserve a slot on the History Channel at this point.

 

[SniperHunter]

A+++ post, quality from beginning to end. Would wholeheartedly recommend to friends, family and coworkers alike.

Lol

Poor lad is on bishops crosshair now

 

[SmoothRunningGun]

I hope he's not comparing SP footage to MP.

 

[Nirolak]

Note to be too much OT, but these Kinect settings are interesting.

I'm going to split this off separately.

 

[crozier]

I wonder if the marketing and DLC deal between Microsoft and EA on Battlefield will see DICE intentionally downgrading the PS4 version in favor of parity with XB1?

Is that too much of a conspiracy theory?

Is that even possible to do? I mean, if the PS4 is more powerful and both versions are at visual parity, the PS4 version (assuming framerate is unlocked) will run noticeably smoother/faster.

 

[DeltaJay]

I'm going to split this off separately.

Thank you sir! I have played FPS's for the PC using TrackIR and it's a great feature (invaluable even). Was hoping one day I could do it for consoles.

 

[nikos]

PS4 multiplayer vs XBONE single player?

EDIT: Exactly!

let me tell you guys exactly what will happen

Guy will run the SP of XboxOne which has more localized and sharper assets than its MP version. it looks good it looks sharp like every SP version

Then he will run the MP version of PS4 which has multiplayer assets and looks less stellar than SP for obvious reasons. it does not look as sharp as SP.

Comparison will show the Xbox One SP version has slightly better textures and slightly better asset IQ than the MP version of PS4 for obvious reasons.

People who are oblivious to this obvious fact and don't know what really was compared will erupt saying OMG XO footage looks better than PS4. it will be all over twitter and reddit until people finally realise what is the fact. Neogaf will have 200 pages of uninformed folks saying Megaton and WOW everywhere. several meltdowns will occur on both sides and the thread will live in infamy.

 

[f0nz0]

So direct x 11 comes through in the clutch for Microsoft??? Interesting,...


Any other multiplats that are using or will use frostbite engine?

 

[yodathesoda]

If PS4 was as much more powerful as many of you have been saying then even single player Xbox One wouldn't look as good as the mega powerful PS4. But it isn't and many Xbox One ports will look just as good or even a little better depending on the developer.

This thread will be fantastic for crow eating.

 

[jaaz]

PS4 multiplayer vs XBONE single player?

EDIT: exactly.

Apparently, that's the comparison he will be posting. Crazy, we know.

 

[TheOctodad]

So direct x 11 comes through in the clutch for Microsoft??? Interesting,...


Any other multiplats that are using or will use frostbite engine?

I believe NFS:R, Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mirrors Edge 2, Battlefront and the Untitled Mass Effect game.

 

[TheOctodad]

If PS4 was as much more powerful as many of you have been saying then even single player Xbox One wouldn't look as good as the mega powerful PS4. But it isn't and many Xbox One ports will look just as good or even a little better depending on the developer.

This thread will be fantastic for crow eating.

I think the comments that think the PS4 MP will outshine the X1 SP are ... unlikely to say the least.

The prevailing rumor for a few multiplats does seem to indicate that there may be a resolution difference all other things being equal though (MP vs. MP comparison). Are you debating that?

 

[btkadams]

If PS4 was as much more powerful as many of you have been saying then even single player Xbox One wouldn't look as good as the mega powerful PS4. But it isn't and many Xbox One ports will look just as good or even a little better depending on the developer.

This thread will be fantastic for crow eating.

how do you even know this?

 

[imt558]

Ryse gameplay videos that we saw are definitely rendered in native 1080p.

Wrong!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-HDUBbtgQ

 

[netBuff]

I don't know, maybe Xbone really have some secret sauce, some high tech upscaler,
can make 720p/900p look 99% like 1080p, and "surprisingly" look identical to PS4 version.
All those recent Ryse footage, people count the pixel and it look like 1080p.

Pretty much impossible.

Well, that'd be weird, considering Crytek have openly said it's 900p.

And recent Ryse cutscene screenshots were in 1080p, it seems possible that cutscenes in that game are pre-rendered and were recorded at a higher resolution than the game itself (think Uncharted).

Or they are bullshots.

If PS4 was as much more powerful as many of you have been saying then even single player Xbox One wouldn't look as good as the mega powerful PS4. But it isn't and many Xbox One ports will look just as good or even a little better depending on the developer.

This thread will be fantastic for crow eating.

But it is: The PS4 is very significantly more capable than the Xbone.

 

[Gen.Grievous]

Who knows, wasn't BF3 CPU intensive? It could be a factor or I could be completely wrong.

Nah GPU is boss in Frostbite.

PS4 multiplayer vs XBONE single player?

EDIT: Exactly!

Would be awesome to behold though. And then another thread when people actually play the game and rage how MP looks like crap haha.

 

[SniperHunter]

Game will probably run on medium settings I guess? Wish these consoles could run it at high to ultra

 

[Globox_82]

MP vs SP?

Yeah no thanks. click bait coming on 29th

 

[Skeff]

Comparing single player to multiplayer is crazy.

Anyway my Body is (red)E to pixel count.

The comparison thread is going to be soo bad though, the multiplayer is going to have higher framerate and the single player is going to have better assets.

 

[Appollowexx]

Wow really great idea there comparing single player to multiplayer.

There's no way the PS4 version comes out on top outside of maybe resolution.

Is the guy doing this comparison an idiot, a fanboy or just under strict instructions from MS about what exactly he can use for his videos?

Basically a useless comparison, but still will be nice to see how the next gen versions are running.

 

[Cuyejo]

I don't know, maybe Xbone really have some secret sauce, some high tech upscaler,
can make 720p/900p look 99% like 1080p, and "surprisingly" look identical to PS4 version.
All those recent Ryse footage, people count the pixel and it look like 1080p.

It's because Crytek has been showing 1080p footage with a ridiculously good image quality, which makes me think it's pre-rendered, only the most gullible think that's how Ryse will look in game.

 

[Demon Ice]

the BF4 beta running so much better on windows 8 then 7 might of been a hint of the xb1 being the superior port... it will be very disappointing tho

Yes because the PS4 is running Windows 7.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

the BF4 beta running so much better on windows 8 then 7 might of been a hint of the xb1 being the superior port... it will be very disappointing tho

I have no idea wtf is going on in this post