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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)

GQman2121

Banned
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I'm going to bed.
 
But what does Digital Foundry have to do with Microsoft or Sony? I mean, again, I have a PS4 pre-ordered, but I'm not blind. I mean I'm reading their analysis saying that the PS4 one is better, but I watch the video, screen shots and everything and the PS4 version looks washed out to hell. Christ, even the textures on the XO version look better from these screen shots. If you told me the PS4 version was actually the 720p one and the XO version was the 1080p one I'd believe you. How is that possible if the PS4 version is running at a higher resolution?

The PC version has the same color as the PS4 version are you going to say the X1 version better than PC also .
If you want the PS4 version to pop and hide detail like the X1 version all you have to do is send up the color \contrast on your tv .
 

Jomjom

Banned
Aquamarine's comparison post really shows just how much nasty aliasing and pixellation is being hidden by the crushed blacks.
 
What I have learned in this thread is that it is ok for a 100 dollar more expensive console to have a lower res and framerate as long as the image is calibrated really badly.

If you prefer the controller layout and have friends to play with, I say that is worth $100 extra. If people want the better quality play on PC it's that simple.
 
I wonder why the PS4 version looks clamped? Or doesn't have the super whites like on the XO version. It's most apparent in this pic, when looking at the sun. As if the sun is dimmed, and not pure white, like in the XO clip. That is the most notiecable difference to me. Or perhaps it is from the XO version just having cranked contrast. But I would hope both versions have the same white point. regardless.

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sorry if this has already been discussed.

Otherwise, yeah XO looks more crisp, except PS4 looks much sharper or better when looking at thin lines, like electrical lines or steal beams in the distance. Obviously an advantage of the resolution bump.

XB1 looks blown out. You guys should use the PC as baseline. That's how it's supposed to look
 
And makes textures sharper too

Curiously, the top end is also affected, causing the image to appear distinctly washed out, as if set to limited range. This is particularly evident on PS4, which is kept free of a comparable black push to Microsoft's platform to compensate. Right now there's every possibility that it could be a capture situation, but it is worth noting that we saw no such issue on our PC captures and after returning to base, the same equipment produced a perfectly balanced picture on our PlayStation 3.
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
38 secs PS4 is on a shadow. The gif I posted the Xbone isnt.

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Atleast you accepted the crushed blacks before you continued on your meltdown.
Are you going to ignore all the other replies? From the scene with no shadows at all?

Probably. This is a rhetorical question.
 
Has it been discussed that all footage used by DF and videogamer etc. was captured at the Stockholm preview event on capture equipment that was provided for them by EA or DICE?

Videogamer tweaks the PS4 contrast due to the washed out effect from the capture equipment
 

madblazer

Neo Member
Has anyone pointed out that is all single player footage, and we all know BF4 is about multiplayer. Presumably multiplayer will look worse than single player, and there is still no xbone multiplayer footage, so if ps4 multiplayer comes down and looks like xbox one single player where what does the xbox one multiplayer end up looking like.
 

Ploid 3.0

Member
Wow looking at that helicopter gif the xbox version really don't have those dark clouds. I thought it was probably just a moving clouds caught out of frame situation.
 
This is the craziest post I've read in this thread, PC is leagues ahead of either console.

No one's saying the PC doesn't have the best detail of the 3 but look at the colors, contrast, brightness, black levels and tell me which one doesn't belong. Also the PC has the soft look the PS4 has and PS4 is closer in terms of AA to the PC.
 

Toki767

Member
bingo bingo bingo....

take a look at the shots here...which one of the three doesnt belong??...in each and every shot (except for the one getting out of the elevator where the white stripe on the couch/chairs is missing on the PS4) the PS4 is WAAAAAAY closer to what the PC version looks like....the PC looking even more "washed out" (ie: more accurate) than the PS4 in some shots...

unless we are going to argue the Xbone looks better than the PC version...

That's the part that confuses me. People are saying the Xbox One version looks better, but the PS4 version is obviously looking more like the PC version. The same people saying the Xbox One version looks better then go on to say they'll get it on PC and it's like what?
 

IN&OUT

Banned
From videogamer.com:

nd with the console war heating up as we edge closer to the next-gen launch, DICE’s shooter may end up being a key factor in the war between Microsoft and Sony, with the PlayStation 4 version displaying a clear advantage over the Xbox One.

The differences between the two versions will come as great concern to Microsoft. Just as it appears to be regaining traction from its fumbling Xbox One campaign, the revelation that at least one of next-gen’s major launch titles is noticeably weaker on its console will be enough to threaten to send the platform holder back to square one. It’s difficult to tell how big a problem it may end up being until we’ve compared the complete multiplatform launch line-up it, but if the trend continues with further releases (as last week’s Call of Duty: Ghosts rumour suggests it may well do) even players heavily invested in the Xbox platform could be prompted to starting look elsewhere.

It may just be teething problems, of course, and as developers grow accustomed to working with Xbox One, issues related to native resolution may soon become a thing of the past. But that goes both ways. With the PS4 off to a stronger start, the divide between the two consoles may remain a constant as developers look to push that GDDR5 RAM and impressive GPU in ways they simply can’t on Microsoft’s console.


Now enjoy your crushed blacks
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
38 secs PS4 is on a shadow. The gif I posted the Xbone isnt.

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Atleast you accepted the crushed blacks before you continued on your meltdown.

Yes it is, that's the same spot the xbox one moves at later. Look 3 seconds beyond the gif you made. -_-

And I'm not blind, of course I see the crushed blacks.

Yours:
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Here's the rest:
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Pain

Banned
But what does Digital Foundry have to do with Microsoft or Sony? I mean, again, I have a PS4 pre-ordered, but I'm not blind. I mean I'm reading their analysis saying that the PS4 one is better, but I watch the video, screen shots and everything and the PS4 version looks washed out to hell. Christ, even the textures on the XO version look better from these screen shots. If you told me the PS4 version was actually the 720p one and the XO version was the 1080p one I'd believe you. How is that possible if the PS4 version is running at a higher resolution?
Its simple, to compensate for the lower resolution of the Xbox One, the colors are oversatured. The PS4 in comparison looks washed out, although that is how its supposed to look. The textures aren't better on Xbox One, DF said it themselves that they are equal.
 
At first I was on the XBone version looking good compared to the PS4. But after seeing the detailed gif comparisons... Hands down the ps4 takes the cake.

Edit:
The ps4 version has HBAO and it still holds a higher frame rate AND resolution? Yeah the XBone is completely outclassed.
 

Sanke__

Member
Wait a minute can everyone agree that killzone looks significantly better than both versions of bf4?
that bf4 singleplayer will be an unplayable piece of trash so it doesnt really matter what it looks like and we need multiplayer footage?

it seems like you can find a shot that makes either version look better but I assume the resolution difference and jaggies would be more noticeable on a tv at 60 fps
 

Metfanant

Member
At this point in the thread, I fear some would argue that....it's maddening.

People are missing this as well. It's obviously at least partially by design, but people are too caught up in how "sharp" the X1 version looks -_-



Goddamn son lol

even the infamous hair on the black guy in the elevator...the PC version and the PS4 version are near identical...the Xbone? sharp as fuck...but is that good?
 
Mislabeled? The ground textures are gone/blurry on the lower pic.

Anyhow, the differences are tiny and I'd say that it'll be more important to see current gen vs next gen Face Offs this generation if this is the "big" and "twice as good" differences we're going to see between the hd twins. Especially if neither is guaranteed to get 1080p res.

Judging from the nextgen videos and the videos from current Gen beta, that's nit realm a discussion worth having. Nextgen wins pretty easily.
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
I know fuck all about the subject matter and can tell the PC version is better.

Parity my ass.
Read
"most parity visually"
not
"parity"
or
"full parity"

If you did clustering based on visual similarities, the ps4 version looks closer to the pc version than the xbox1 version.
 

Hawk269

Member
1600x900 is a disappointment. My roommate plays BF4 in 1920x1080 and Ultra Settings with an HD7870 (I'm not sure about the framerate, though). It's even more so disappointing after seeing the Killzone Shadow Fall graphics in 1080p.

Killzone is a 1st party game, closer ties to Sony and they helped the development of the system as well. I am sure they had much more access and earlier access to tools than a 3rd party did.

But regardless, this is a Battlefield thread, so don't want to go too o/t.
 
So is the reason JF does not have the XBO MP videos is due to the OS/Live issues on the system? Maybe they are not showing MP on XBO because of that.

btw SHAME on DF for putting those washed out videos and bad comparisons
 
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