It will be interesting what other multiplat titles will look like
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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
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It will be interesting what other multiplat titles will look like
How is that more "bullshitty" than people saying X1 is superior because of TV setting sharpening effects and saturation? We wouldnt need such a "bullshit" comparison if people would stop using the bad DF comparison.
Vire
Member
Yes. Yes they do.
nelsonroyale
Member
Jackfrag uncompressed footage is the best comparison in my opinion. Differences in IQ and AA are pretty evident.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
The cynic in me says they did it to make the Bone version look "better" to brogamers and cause controversy and get more clicks, but it could be that they just fucked up.
Terbinator
Member
The only thing is you will never experience a Killzone moment in Killzone, never mind something as *gasp* visceral as you do during a Battlefield moment.
#truthfact
digoutyoursoul
Member
Multiplayer looks a bit meh in the visual stakes
You are again talking about the fucked up DF recording. You just saw the pictures I posted, how can you say that the X1 textures look better?
Because this is the texture difference you get from 720p to 900p.
wow
dark_prinny
Banned
So, who won in this first Battlefield?
Yeah now the difference is the exact opposite in that correct comparison..the Xbox One version looks the more blurry softer version while the PS4 version looks cleaner and more crisp.
Although again most people wouldn't know the difference but most in here would and i definitely see the difference.
One has to wonder how could DF drop the ball so bad on their comparisons? That kinda baffled me to be honest. A person would really have to be in a stupor to not notice the hiccup on the capture variations when publishing the images. Someone at DF must of been out of it? Sheesh!
What gap though?, is there other vids around other than the ones in the op?.
It's the 360 vs PS3 all over again except the PS4 is the winning console this time. Good thing I have a PS4 preordered!
I could fathom a guess.
djjinx2
Member
The IGN video should be linked in the OP
http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/10/28/battlefield-4-xbox-oneps4-graphics-comparison
"However, I can give you some impressions based on my time with the PlayStation 4 multiplayer and single-player. Purely from a gameplay perspective, I can say with confidence that Battlefield 4 on PlayStation 4 and PC are equally excellent. The two are visually comparable, with minor detail differences if youre really trying to pick it apart. The single-player and multiplayer look beautiful, and DualShock 4 is the best thing to happen to PlayStation in terms of first-person shooters. The analog sticks give you much more room for precise movements than the PS3's DualShock 3, whose sticks I've always felt are a bit clumsy. With aim/fire moved back to the redesigned L2/R2, youre now pulling a trigger rather than pushing a button. It just feels more natural than hooking my index fingers over the PS3 controllers bumpers. Ill probably use this controller to play PC games for the foreseeable future.
Playing with 64 players on consoles is something else. Im used to that on PC, especially with Battlefield, but I prefer playing on a couch, on PSN or Xbox Live, and using a game pad. Battlefield 4 on PS4 really is the best of those worlds. The scale of the PlayStation 3 versions maps is fine as I mention in the review, they sacrifice space and scale without significantly damaging the gameplay but the addition of 40 more players, additional control points, and vehicles really shows you what youve been missing if youve been playing Battlefield on consoles all these years."
http://www.ign.com/blogs/mitchy_d/2013/10/29/wheres-the-xbox-one-or-ps4-battlefield-4-review
http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/10/28/battlefield-4-xbox-oneps4-graphics-comparison
"However, I can give you some impressions based on my time with the PlayStation 4 multiplayer and single-player. Purely from a gameplay perspective, I can say with confidence that Battlefield 4 on PlayStation 4 and PC are equally excellent. The two are visually comparable, with minor detail differences if youre really trying to pick it apart. The single-player and multiplayer look beautiful, and DualShock 4 is the best thing to happen to PlayStation in terms of first-person shooters. The analog sticks give you much more room for precise movements than the PS3's DualShock 3, whose sticks I've always felt are a bit clumsy. With aim/fire moved back to the redesigned L2/R2, youre now pulling a trigger rather than pushing a button. It just feels more natural than hooking my index fingers over the PS3 controllers bumpers. Ill probably use this controller to play PC games for the foreseeable future.
Playing with 64 players on consoles is something else. Im used to that on PC, especially with Battlefield, but I prefer playing on a couch, on PSN or Xbox Live, and using a game pad. Battlefield 4 on PS4 really is the best of those worlds. The scale of the PlayStation 3 versions maps is fine as I mention in the review, they sacrifice space and scale without significantly damaging the gameplay but the addition of 40 more players, additional control points, and vehicles really shows you what youve been missing if youve been playing Battlefield on consoles all these years."
http://www.ign.com/blogs/mitchy_d/2013/10/29/wheres-the-xbox-one-or-ps4-battlefield-4-review
Lovely Salsa
Banned
ehh...are we going to update the OP? Or is it really how the games compare?
Because xbox 1 version looks clearly better going by the comparision screens
Because xbox 1 version looks clearly better going by the comparision screens
Which is nonsense. UI elements should be at the exact same spot, regardless of the native render resolution of the games since the output resolution is 1920x1080 for both versions.
I stabbed him in the water!!!!!
zomgbbqftw
Banned
You should have at least made both pictures look equally sharp.
Impossible because of the resolution difference. You can't create details that don't exist.
call_kotaku
Member
It's interesting to see the contrast between the sort of person who would care about calibration and image quality and the "layman" in these sorts of situations, though. A lot of people (myself included) that encounter things in which image quality matters, like design, digital photography, video processing, etc., learn that you need to find as good a source as possible and try to do whatever changes you need while losing the least amount of information. Meanwhile, someone who frequently encounters stuff like social media or video upscalers are mostly familiar with things that try to make garbage sources look less garbage (instagram, sub-HQ graphics, "vivid" LCD settings, etc).
There are some who see how much information contrast and sharpening boosting destroys, while a large number of people see them as additive features.
There are some who see how much information contrast and sharpening boosting destroys, while a large number of people see them as additive features.
I thought you were talking about the textures but it doesn't matter, higher resolution and less aliasing aside, the PC and PS4 version look similar, including lighting and colours. Saying that the XB1 version looks better because the PS4 one looks too soft is also saying the same for the PC version.
nelsonroyale
Member
Differences will be marginally bigger, but pretty much. I mean there shouldnt be a single instance when the Xbone has the upper hand.
Stillmatic
Member
With sharpening already being applied the Xbox One version is going to look terrible for those that already ramp up sharpen on their tv's.
Lovely Salsa
Banned
Are you impressed by the PC version?
Yeah...it goes without saying that unless you are trying to highlight and element or something, don't alter images and post them unlabeled to prove a point. That's Mickey Mouse, mate. Spurious.
The DF comparison that is in the OP is altered too though. Isn't that kind of a double standard?
BigDaddyFatSack
Banned
This type of shenanigans have been going on all throughout this gen. Look at the COD comparisons. Looks exactly like what's going in here again except this time Xbox's version suffers from frame rate issues. You'll be naive to think that they're not doing it again next-gen.
iJudged
Banned
Aawww ;( ok
You can make the PS4 version look as sharp on your TV, its just post processing everyone can apply himself:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87940929&postcount=4020
Here is a video comparing PS4 and PC version:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Battl...-PS4-x-Wie-gut-ist-Next-Gen-wirklich-1094755/
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Battl...-PS4-x-Wie-gut-ist-Next-Gen-wirklich-1094755/
You're just seeing things apprently. I trust my eyes and to me the Xbox One version looks better and its as imple as that. The PS4 version may look better on a huge 1080p tv but i only have a 32inch tv so why would i care about that.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Because it looks like there is a sharpening filter applied to the Bone versions of the game either as standard on all output or by DF in post. The same effect can be achieved by setting your TV for higher sharpening.
I'm confused. Why is the above gif the complete opposite of this gif in the original post?
As far as detail, lighting and sharpness is concerned.
iJudged
Banned
Lmao, so good, Ty for giggles...
Impeccable
Member
I mean if you're happy, you're happy. No one can argue that. Just except a worse version for 360/PS3 differences. If they didn't bother you this generation then they won't bother you next.
What's the origin of the sharpening effect? DF's capture hardware, the Xbox One's upscaler or Dice's rendering engine for BF4 on the Xbone?
ConteZero76
Member
They strangely keep fucking in favor of XBox one.
Digital Foundry. Someone who worked with them mentioned it.
Battlefield ran 60FPS on the N64?
I believe Battlefield has been running at 30FPS on console's until BF4.
RaGMasTeR90
Member
They apperently comfirm that the PS4 picture is so brighten because of the recording devices.
That's because the initial use of AO (it was introduced by ILM in Pearl Harbor if I remember correctly) was not really to create shadows, but to mask environment lightning.
At the time, they were running out of memory when trying to use full global illumination, so they decided to go with environment maps to light the planes instead. The drawback is that this technique couldn't produce good self shadowing (the shadows cast by an object on itself). So they creted AO, which they used as mask in compositing to add the contact shadows environmental lightning couldn't generate.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Holy shit. Wtf is happening here? Have people actually been altering the PS4 version of the gif?
Because the person who made the gif, used sharpening on the PS4 picture, to showcase the difference between using it and not using it.
That is my understanding, the Xbox One picture is not messed around with in either the gif or the picture you linked
The purpose (as i understand it) is to show what sharpening can do, which is really what DF footage has essentially been about and why people are confused
GameAddict411
Member
WOW, so you weren't lying when you said that you're a compulsive liar huh? the PS4 performance is much better than XO in almost every situation and that's according to DF.