Sickboy007
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Square Enix's new plan: Eidos focus = online games; Japan accelerating work on phones
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Henry Jones Jr
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FFXV last console FF game?
You bastards.
You can feel good by thinking that Motomu Toriyama would have taken over the remake...
In what universe COULD it have been released years ago? They COULDN'T move on to its development before FFXIII was done. That's a fact. And that wasn't until early 2010. Since then they DID work on it and like I pointed out the game's development advanced quite smoothly (they had the whole world traversable 1,5 years later). The game was just too ambitious for PS3 that they decided it would be better to move it to next-gen instead of neutering Nomura's vision for the game.
It IS mostly a case of announcing it too early. When Versus XIII was announced, Nomura even said not to expect it in a long time. Like I pointed out, a lot of publishers have all kinds of prototypes under works all the time (some are in the oven longer than others) and they appoint resources to make those prototypes into actual games in whatever order they seem appropriate. The thing with Versus XIII is, it was always going to be a massively ambitious project that Nomura & his team needed to prepare for properly, so they couldn't just jump into its development head-on. They needed that lengthy pre-production/prototyping phase where they figured what direction they would take the game and what would and would not work (i.e. world map vs. FFXII-esque overworld, cutscenes vs. more interactive scenarios). Of course what was happening around the company altogether did delay them from getting to work on the game once they were finished preparing, but there's nothing they can do to that afterwards. It is what it is.
I mean, for fuck's sake, Final Fantasy XIII was originally planned for PS2, but then FFXII's development was such a clusterfuck that the team ended up moving that project to next generation. These kinds of things happen. We can wish they didn't happen, but they did and Square Enix has had to live with those consequences for a long time.
Of course they didn't mean to skip a generation, but in the end, AFTER ALL THAT _HAS_ HAPPENED (with Crystal Tools, XIII & XIV 1.0), Versus XIII was delayed for so long that they started to hear about the next-generation by the time they were heavily into the game's development. And at that point it became clear that PS3 was not good enough a platform to realize all their plans for the game, so they moved it to next-gen. XIII & XIV were alwas going to have priority over Versus XIII (Nomura wanted to prepare for its development properly and that took time), they can't change that. Then Toriyama & XIV's original director screwed up those two games majestically and Square Enix had to try to do something to that.
*sigh* That simply wasn't possible in the universe we live in. Maybe in some La-La Dreamland where everything goes according to plans, but in this universe Square Enix was already struggling with PS2 level development (FFXII's development was much bigger of a clusterfuck than Versus XIII/XV will ever be) and those problems culminated with XIII & XIV's development. The fact is, Square Enix DID run into problems with the Crystal Tools and PS3 IS a bitch to develop for. Final Fantasy XV will be better off with them moving it to next gen. Would I have wanted to play FFXV in 2011? Sure, but I'm also super excited about it being on PS4Bone.
Eh? I'd rather let Nomura realize what is as close to his original vision as possible than them succumbing to impatient fans demands & cutting corners because of shitty hardware.
Wow how the mighty have fallen. Maybe we will get lucky and ffxv will bomb massivly and they will have to liquidate some IPs to more compident studios. And ffs it will be a cold ass day in hell when I give anyone the kind of money SE charges for their phone and tablet games.
Parasite Eve is dead, man. Did you not watch as Toriyama raped it, strangled it to death, devoured its corpse and then defecated it into a shallow grave? Tabata and Shimomura could do nothing to save that game, man.
We just have to let it go.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
You bastards.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I am convinced they have a FF7 HD remake ready in a storage unit some where and they're waiting to release it into the world as soon as they hit true financial crisis.
It is under 7 locks, and seven members of the board each have one key and together they will decide when the world is ready for it to be unleashed.
What's wrong with him posting his thoughts?
His resilience is admirable lol.
Also yay more smartphone games, dat revolution.
Also yay more smartphone games, dat revolution.
Whatever happened to worldrevolution anyway?
I'm not bothered what becomes of Square Enix, I gave up hope for them some time ago. I do care however that they're dragging Eidos down with them. Tomb Raider, Sleeping Dogs, Just Cause were all great games, I'm not interested in multiplayer being shoved into everything.
I will say that I enjoyed the multiplayer in Uncharted, but that still paled in comparison to it's single player experience. I guess if they produced something like that, I'd be okay with it. But not everyone can be Naughty Dog.
I will say that I enjoyed the multiplayer in Uncharted, but that still paled in comparison to it's single player experience. I guess if they produced something like that, I'd be okay with it. But not everyone can be Naughty Dog.
ZombiePlatypus
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Oh god, I mean, the idea of SE not being able to live up to the original with a new remake crossed my mind of course. But, I never really thought about good ol' Tori having free reign and murdering it the way he did PE and XIII.
Also yay more smartphone games, dat revolution.
Lol WTF is this?
-Pyromaniac-
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Kagari can you post the gif of noctis in the car for me. That's how I feel now and I'm too lazy.
An ad for Takehiro Ando's (producer for most of SE's smartphone games) blog on Famitsu: Smartphone Game Revolution. They're all very silly but it seems to suit his personality.
Now that they've announced their plans for Japan I'm expecting the blog to update with new game announcements soon, or at least I hope so. Announce Rise of Mana already!
ZombiePlatypus
Member
They'd have to release some sort of a drawing game first that bombs. FFXIII-4: U Draw Lightning Waifu WiiU.
speculawyer
Member
Well, EA, Take-Two, and Activision will have fun picking at the corpse for anything good that is left.
What's wrong? Well for one he's effectively calling people stupid. And for two... the apologist attitude can only work for so long.
-Pyromaniac-
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ahh there it is. I'm just so indifferent to everything. They can just give me versus and go die doing whatever. But I have a feeling these slides don't tell the full story but maybe I'm just being hopeful. I don't doubt it's their main strategy going forward but not their only one....
Been trying to come up with something sarcastic/witty for a while now. I got nothing for Square. Just.. man... why 
Edit: Alternatively, what other developers/companies primarily make jrpg games for current gen? I'll need a fix soon, and I prefer not having to replay an old Square classic again because of the-now Square's inept ability to make something worthwhile.
Edit: Alternatively, what other developers/companies primarily make jrpg games for current gen? I'll need a fix soon, and I prefer not having to replay an old Square classic again because of the-now Square's inept ability to make something worthwhile.
LowerLevel
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Wow... I actually have no words. I was going to say that maybe they will backtrack when they see the lack of sales. But something is telling me Japan is going to eat this shit right up. Mobile/Phone gaming? Ugh! Fine SE, just put it out on Vita too!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I simply will never understand why Square stopped producing the Chrono series when the first two were wildly successful and critical darlings. Like, it is literally one of the most incomprehensible business decisions I can think of.
I would, but they won't...
Nightstick11
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This is one of the saddest days of my life.
Good god, Square, what did they do to you? I loved Square more than any company. They were Heaven's Studio.
Now what the fuck is this shit? Online games and smartphone games? How about console and 3DS/Vita games? Sheesh.
At this point I prefer that Square-Enix die so that at least Nintendo/Sony/Atlus/Sega etc. can purchase and make use of their IPs.
To sit on the Ogre Battle and Chrono IPs and make useless mobile games is unforgivable.
Good god, Square, what did they do to you? I loved Square more than any company. They were Heaven's Studio.
Now what the fuck is this shit? Online games and smartphone games? How about console and 3DS/Vita games? Sheesh.
At this point I prefer that Square-Enix die so that at least Nintendo/Sony/Atlus/Sega etc. can purchase and make use of their IPs.
To sit on the Ogre Battle and Chrono IPs and make useless mobile games is unforgivable.
ZombiePlatypus
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When did SE do things that make sense?
Remember when people were hopeful about the new CEO?
Anticitizen One
Banned
Square and Eidos are done
I think our differences are ones of emphasis. Yes, considering the circumstances, it's a good move to make XV a next generation title. It shouldn't be rushed, and corners should not be cut. There was nothing inevitable about those circumstances, however. You attach far too much deliberateness to XV's ultimate fate, and act as if there was something about Nomura's vision that somehow made it a given the game would experience such a long delay. The only thing that's a given is that a ~10 year delay of a game like Versus XIII would probably be related to difficulties within the company at large - the existence of those difficulties is the reason, not the excuse. Your standards of SE seem to be abysmally low: you can hardly accuse people of living in a La-La Dreamland for expecting better of SE than what they got (utterly dropping the ball left and right throughout the entire generation), as if their horrible performance this generation is somehow indicative not of a company in decline, but merely of hardware limitations.
Well you do realise that they have created an uphill battle for themselves. If they teased 2011 and released this year the media would have taken it upon itself to literally market the game for them. Now? I think it may well be snarky comments until they get a playable game for review and then many may have hyped this up to much.
We still have Atlus. Right? Right.....?
Ask Sammy.
And with our Proud relationship with Sammy we here announce P3G! Coming to Smartphone in Japan!
No really, this is my biggest fear, after that that the Cobra Kai will actually find me.
But I have decided to believe.
All I've seen so far, in chartz, is that mobile are actually just a few % of their gains whereas MMO and "HD" are their bread and water making up to 20-30 times more.
I've had my head in the sand for a while with Square. Always thought that they would fix production, and get back to mainline FFs every third year or so, something like that. At this point, I think that we will get FFXV, then XV-2 and XV-3, and that's that. We won't even sniff Chrono, Parasite Eve, ect. Game over, man.
If that Kotaku article about Sony Japan Studio making a Final Fantasy Rival was on the money, it couldn't be timed any better.
If that Kotaku article about Sony Japan Studio making a Final Fantasy Rival was on the money, it couldn't be timed any better.
They are TRYING to make money in the only Japanese markets that are offering more growth.
Whats wrong with portables? It's effing wonderful to see what the Vita can do and the fact that it keeps dev costs down for something that is becoming more of a "niche" is just good. Sure I might miss hopping down to the basement and kick the projector up and play an visually(artistic?) stunning RPG on the silver screen.
But choosing between playing on the vita and just pairing it with a nice surround system? Or not getting it all. The choice is easy.
Anticitizen One
Banned
I think thread title is a bit disingenuous. They will still continue to make real games too this is just stuff they plan to focus on on top of the regular games. Obviously PS4 is getting FF 15 and KH 3 and I am sure Crystal Dynamics will continue to make single player Tomb Raider games. Also didn't Square just put together a Final Fantasy brain trust to ensure quality in future FF games?
It's really up to the gamers to not buy there bullshit and let them learn the hard way. But judging by the number of people even on gaf who are eating up the various versions of "FF XIV" and buying their mobile games I mean I can't really blame them I blame the fans who should be taking a hard line stance.
It's really up to the gamers to not buy there bullshit and let them learn the hard way. But judging by the number of people even on gaf who are eating up the various versions of "FF XIV" and buying their mobile games I mean I can't really blame them I blame the fans who should be taking a hard line stance.
Not only in Japan but also around the world, but most people here seem to believe that is not the case.
An EGM issue.
Everything Taito ever was: Forgot they even bought it
Nanashi no game: Forgotten, never localised because focus group said it sucked because you didnt shoot anyone with guns
Well, there are a lot of Taito games for smartphones. Groove Coaster recently got ported to arcades even since it's so popular.
And at least they localized 774 Deaths. Obviously not the Nanashi no Game people were waiting for, but still.
UberTag
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Tomb Raider will get bought by someone to get rebooted for the umpteenth time.
Not so sure about any of the other IPs. Square's done a good job of devaluing them.
At the time, who could of thought it could get worse then Wada as CEO. Clearly the joke was on us
metalslimer
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I suspect Square Enix and Capcom will both be vastly different companies by the end of this generation. Well if mobile allows us to get DQ localizations I would be for it.
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