SaucyJack
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.... whilst downloading the Day 1 patch in the background.
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Xbox One practically unusable without day one update
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.... whilst downloading the Day 1 patch in the background.
Impeccable
Member
Honestly should have included a disc with the update on it if it really is a paper weight without it.
sixteen-bit
Member
I thought this was common knowledge since the 180
They REALLY want you to sign in and have an account. Then you'll use the XBL trial and hopefully like the functionality. I suppose eventually they'll have other means of updating but they want you connected.
No and yes, respectively.
Portugeezer
Gold Member
I doubt they will be on launch game discs. Games have been gold for a while, they've still been working on the day one update since then.
They were going in with the expectation of being online only
Patch isn't done before games are gold
Infrastructure would need to be built from scratch to accept updates from disc.
Not enough time to build and test this before manufacturing starts.
Maninthemirror
Banned
opticalmace
Member
KungFucius
King Snowflake
I don't know why people expect any different. Many launch day consoles were made several months ago and thus had an old build of the OS installed. The OS with the original online only rev1 DRM system. Do the people who have issues with this not want MS to update anything including the way the Bone works? Even without the policy changes I would want the software engineers to find and kill bugs and optimize the OS further in the ~ 6 months since they provided the rev1 OS build.
This make some sense, maybe it's a security thing who knows.
Portugeezer
Gold Member
Doubt it.
Anyone without an internet connection will be in for a surprise or they will have to take it somewhere to update it.
nature boy
Member
Azure is gonna take a hit on launch day.
MightyHedgehog
Member
And why would anyone skip day-one updates to the launch games? This seems to be a really dumb distinction to make, as if it seriously matters to anyone buying a next-gen console on day-one. I mean, who wouldn't update when every internet-connected device you can buy today pretty much offers day-one firmware/OS updates?
Assuming the file size is somewhere around 1.5gb, here are the estimated download times per connection speed:
Times are in HH:MM:SS
Code:
1.024 Mbps 03:15:18
1.544 Mbps 02:09:32
2.048 Mbps 01:37:39
10 Mbps 00:20:00
25.6 Mbps 00:07:48
34 Mbps 00:05:52
45 Mbps 00:04:26
51 Mbps 00:03:55
100 Mbps 00:02:00Lol, it's a money thing. They want you in that ecosystem. It's kind of the main point behind the console, if nobody connected to XBL they'd be fucked. Luckily for them I like having my consoles connected. I can imagine at the least some bad press could come out of this but it shouldn't be too bad.
Things like this should really be a nonissue in 2013. Most likely this stuff is done as a cost saving / manufacturing move so that they can get rolling on making the consoles before the firmware is 100% tweaked and ready to go, under the assumption that anyone buying a console will have some form of connection to update with.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
This is something that won't matter in a very short time.
This is why I am holding out for the ability to download it prior and install from a USB pen.
Stone Ocean
Member
15-20 minutes when no one else is trying to patch their consoles?
Oh boy launch day is going to be a blast.
Any idea how long it will be before the box (either one - PS4 or XBO) ships with these day 1 patches already installed as the default firmware? Could it happen for shipments that arrive before the end of the year?
And yet Penello still tries to hedge in answering the question.
chickdigger802
Banned
well thats something... surely you can dl the update right now and install it via usb drive or something?
Gonna be a lot of angry gaffers day 1 otherwise.
Gonna be a lot of angry gaffers day 1 otherwise.
la flama blanca
Banned
this is going to be a fucking disaster at launch
opticalmace
Member
Pristine_Condition
Member
Stone Ocean
Member
If the second wave of shipments doesn't come working out of the box it'll be fucking retarded.
Portugeezer
Gold Member
GameAddict411
Member
That's really huge considering that the PS4 day one patch is 300 MB.
I don't think so. You can call and request a disc with it or install via a usb drive
Clockwork5
Member
No way!! You mean I will have to wait 2 minutes to play my xbone? Nooooooo... Is this news? I have known this for months, MS has been saying this for months... Why is this an issue?
Those consoles are already packaged. They will be working on that patch until the 21st.
Those consoles are already packaged. They will be working on that patch until the 21st.
3rdamention
Member
Can you download the patch ahead of time? I know the PS4 is going to do it (the patch they already released was not the real one I guess).
It would really be useful if you could download the patch a few days before launch, save to a USB, then install it. Thus saving tons of time trying to download it with the millions of other people.
It would really be useful if you could download the patch a few days before launch, save to a USB, then install it. Thus saving tons of time trying to download it with the millions of other people.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Good thing they are updating it then.
PS4: (I think) You can download it to USB on a PC whilst playing games
You can download it after an initial 'this is awesome and I've just put my name in' first play session with Killzone
(I think) you can download whilst playing a game in the background
Xbox One: You can do nothing
PS4 = options
Xbox One = zero options
Should this influence your decision to buy day one? Probably not. But to suggest the first experience for customers on day one will be the same is flatly wrong.
Put it this way, even if PSN's download speeds are as slow ass as people claim the PS3 version of PSN is, or the servers crap up constantly because everyone is trying to connect at the same time, I can still have the update running in the background while playing games on the PS4 while I am at the whim of how smooth or rough the download would go on XBL before I can even play any game.
Juh? So people are to unbox their console in the store, and set it up there? lol wut? Am I interpretting this wrong?