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COD:Ghosts PS4/XBO Comparisons show the same resolution (720p)?
- Thread starter Oni Jazar
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If the capture device was set to record at 720p from a 1080p source there would be a lot less aliasing. Kind of super sampling.
If the PS4 was set to output 720p signal, game would still run at 1080p but just get downscaled. Resulting somewhat super sampling again.
I really don't believe in a scenario where the game would actually render at different resolution if the console is set to output a certain resolution.
If the PS4 was set to output 720p signal, game would still run at 1080p but just get downscaled. Resulting somewhat super sampling again.
I really don't believe in a scenario where the game would actually render at different resolution if the console is set to output a certain resolution.
Paracelsus
Member
Worse because you make money off reviewing games and you have no idea what you're doing.
Primedoughnut
Banned
Nonsense, anyone that gives that idea any credence is surely grasping at straws.
Going by TheSixthAxis comparison, both consoles are outputting 1080p and being captured at 1080p but the game is native 720p on both.
yeah, wtf is going on?
TheCanisDirus
Member
You'd think all the straws in all the world would be gone by now lol.
Metallix87
Member
Oh man, if this game is 720p native on both, I hope Infinity Ward is forced to fess up to it soon.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Those screenshots are not 1080p native.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
The PS4 is in 1080p. This is about reviewers only setting the PS4 on 720p, not the game running in 720p.
Rey
Member
Well apparently it was not what the PS4 was set to output.
Gemüsepizza;89650629 said:
Its beyond stupid to mess up the settings for the console to not output in the native res ofcourse, I agree with you there.
But the fact it, somebody set it up, maybe somebody else? and he clearly couldn't see that much difference in 720p vs1080p because there wasn't.
maabus1999
Member
The images look like they come from the same base resolution source IMO.
Just one or two and some are holding on for their lives.
Remember dat secret sauce or the GPU? ........ never seen craziness like it.
dreamer3kx
Member
The xbox screenshot looks like a pretty good phone cam pic while the ps4 screenshot looks like a hd pic is how I see it
but that doesn't make sense with the footage we are looking at ...
The footage is identical is it not?
I know NOTHING about resolutions etc and the technicalities but these guys are making logical arguments.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Oh my God. What part of the OP are you not understanding?
maabus1999
Member
That would super sample the 720p picture, making the PS4 look better then the X1 "jagged line" wise. And that didn't happen, so something else did.
No one said they weren't .......... I am talking about anyone disbelieving that Ghosts is 1080p on PS4.
Someone it seems has messed up that's for sure.
moniker
Member
Scenario one seems more likely, at least for the reviewers who said they couldn't tell the difference in resolution between PS4 an XB1.There should have been a clear difference.
Primedoughnut
Banned
Both versions are in fact the XB1, with different button icons...... /s
*if* the ps4 is only doing 720p then the real question is wtf did IW do with all the additional gpu resources on offer on the PS4... Ignore them???
*if* the ps4 is only doing 720p then the real question is wtf did IW do with all the additional gpu resources on offer on the PS4... Ignore them???
gamerforever
Banned
Maybe the Reviewers TV sets are 720p only?
Huh? Happened in many games on PS3. Change the resolution down to 480p, and the game actually renders at 720x480 resolution.
That activision dev that "confirmed" 1080p won't have a good day at work if that's true.
That's my point, if that was the case it shouldn't be identical. So what gives?
Please don't upset the apple cart with sense and fact.
Grasping at the straws of conjecture is the only hope for some of these guys.
Lmao I was gaming on my commodore 64 and a black and white TV
Wow. Only ever used mine on a 14" colour portable.
zx81 on the other hand... Still remember keying in all those magazine code only to find there were errors in it. Bah!
For the supersampling theorists, consoles will render at different resolutions depending on their output, so you wont get a downsampling effect. See dark10x's post:
It's not.
My understanding is that if the ps4 version is rendered at 1080 and then downsampled in order to be output at 720p, it will look better and different than a version rendered @720 and output at 720. People with high end gfx cards use this downsampling method in order to get really good looking games.
I suppose it is possible to have the engine be able to render at 1080 and 720, but that makes no sense because it would involve more effort on the part of the coders for no benefit. In fact it would be a downgrade.
edit: just saw dx's post, so the ps4 probably was rendering at 720.
ahaahahah i remember too that time where we could find little games code on magazines (and there was always an error!) ...WAS AMAZING!
maabus1999
Member
Remember the PS4 is about 50% faster, not 225% faster; while it was believable that IW had a huge problem programming the X1 so it wasn't at full throughput, it is becoming now more believable that there is something else (who knows what) going on.
Don't know, since sites like Digital Foundry never actually test the 480p mode of PS3/360 games.
Just to make things a little more complicated, some PS3 games actually ran at the oddball rendering resolution of 960x1080 if you set the PS3 to only output at 1080p. Uncharted 1 and Killzone 2 are two examples of this off the top of my head.
It's more likely the PS4 was set to 1080p. Otherwise they would have had to upscale all the comparison videos and screens from 720p.
Having the ability to change resolutions is (or at least should be) trivially easy.
depending on the output ? he seem talking about framerate goals....
TheCanisDirus
Member
And besides... it's FAR more entertaining to watch said straw graspers flounder about apologetically defending the Xbone.
yeah, wtf? If PS4 + XO are both rendering at 720p, PS4 is 50% more powerful but it has the worse framerate...I guess we know where IW put most of their development efforts. XO really will be a boat anchor this gen, like Lottes said.
cheers.
Yes! It absolutely affects framerate.
There were a number of games that ran much smoother in 480p mode versus 720p on PS3.
The best example is Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 which ran at about 40 fps in 720p mode (judder was severe) while it hits a perfect 60 fps in 480p. Many other games exhibit similar improvements.
So you're an advocate of the "PS4 version got downgraded to native 720p" theory, I presume?
I'm a PS4 fan, but I would actually love to see that happen, just to see the internet explode. And, it would save me $60 bucks.
We need reviews from people who really understand this. It seems that technical reviews are always in the hands of people that know a shit about tech.
It would also be interesting to see screenshots with HUD. Possibly xbone version uses multiple planes to get clear 1080p HUD over game rendering at 720p. And maybe in ps4 (if those screenshots are finally real) have had to render the game at 1080p to have a clear HUD, and then they set "image quality" option in Medium. Doing this in the pc version, the renderer's internal resolution is much lower than native, although the game is running at 1080p.
It would also be interesting to see screenshots with HUD. Possibly xbone version uses multiple planes to get clear 1080p HUD over game rendering at 720p. And maybe in ps4 (if those screenshots are finally real) have had to render the game at 1080p to have a clear HUD, and then they set "image quality" option in Medium. Doing this in the pc version, the renderer's internal resolution is much lower than native, although the game is running at 1080p.
Stop discussing things you know nothing about, sweetie.
That's his guess/hope. Would be great with clarification on this from Sony source. And wouldn't having the game change actual rendering resolution make it harder to QA test, when you need to test both/all resolutions. specially if it will drastically change the fps output
velociraptor
Junior Member
Which doesn't make sense since Mark Rubin confirmed the PS4 version is running 1080p native versus the Xbone's 720p.
maabus1999
Member
So then the framerate dropswould be worse at full 1080p if this theory is correct, which could have made the game almost unplayable IMO, and never gotten through QA.
I don't think this is the full answer.
One day most of us on this forum will sit back and realize just how much time was wasted arguing about a game as bad as this.