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COD:Ghosts PS4/XBO Comparisons show the same resolution (720p)?
- Thread starter Oni Jazar
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The silver lining here is that it may be possible for the PS4 to output games at a lower resolution (rather than simply downscaling from 1080p).
I see this as a potential positive simply because it would allow us to choose to run games at a lower resolution should we desire. This could be useful in a situation where you're dealing with a game without a framerate cap that is unable to hold its framerate. Take Knack, for instance. It might be possible to drop the resolution to 720p and actually hit 60 fps instead of 30-60 fps we see now.
Hitting the native resolution of your display is very important, but an unstable framerate can spoil otherwise good image quality. Reducing image quality in order to solve framerate issues can be a good alternative even on the PC.
This was completely possible with some games last generation. A number of titles which operated at unstable framerates in 720p mode could be switched to 480p where they would then deliver a smooth 30 or 60 fps. Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 works like this (unstable at 720p, smooth as butter at 480p).
Not a great compromise but definitely something that might prove useful in some circumstances. Would be curious to see if KZ-Shadowfall supports 720p output as its unlocked framerate could allow for a higher framerate in SP mode (ie - closer to hitting 60 fps).
Krisprolls
Banned
1080p definitely has more seats.
They told us Black Ops 2 on WiiU would be 1080p before release...
Gemüsepizza
Member
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
I can't wait for Digital Foundry to redo the analysis. Shit is weak here.
Quoting myself from yesterday:
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All these impressions don't sound like one version is rendering 2.25 as many pixels as the other. And the images certainly don't look like it. Someone, somewhere messed up, either at the capturing or the PR end.
I don't think so.
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Fighting a losing battle here mackem, people just dont wanna hear it for some reason or another :/
Means nothing, last gen. was same.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Well it says Full HD 1080p output requires 1080p native display, so this is only for 1080p output. Under the symbol it says 720p/1080i/1080p.
Like the 360 and PS3, I'm fairly sure the difference is just because of different gamma output/color calibration. They're otherwise the exact same in that shot.
robertsan21
Member
Amateur hour!
so am I getting this right, they compared the 720p PS4 with 720p Xboned?
when it infact should have been compared with 1080p PS4 vs 720p Xboned?
so am I getting this right, they compared the 720p PS4 with 720p Xboned?
when it infact should have been compared with 1080p PS4 vs 720p Xboned?
fluffydelusions
Member
Well at least it isn't 480p
Upscaled resolutions weren't on PS3 cases last gen.
But if they compared 720p PS4 it would definitely have less aliasing, if it were really 1080p native...right?
Primedoughnut
Banned
No I believe him, I'm more interested in finding out if it was deliberately captured this way to spread FUD...
UnluckyKate
Member
Quoting myself from yesterday:
All these impressions don't sound like one version is rendering 2.25 as many pixels as the other. And the images certainly don't look like it. Someone, somewhere messed up, either at the capturing or the PR end.
I don't think so.
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it's the only pretty screen for the game I saw. It doesn't help than on PC, with super high res, downsampling and crazy AA, you get a picture quality that even makes PS2 games hold up to standarts. But when you looks real gameplay the game is an insult to next gen. Infinity ward really hit the bucket
Treyarch absolutely never claimed that. This was a bullshit line thrown out during some press conference.
I'm apologise to you for entering a discussion. Is your opinion more valid?
Oh please. Some people are VASTLY overstating the importance of a completely, 100% stable framerate. All the previous Call of Duty titles on console targeted 60fps, but had regular drops down to 40-50fps during intensive scenes. No average gamer could even tell.
Another example, and a game I finished recently, is The Last of Us, which is one of the most acclaimed games in years. Yet the framerate would noticeably dip below 30fps at some points.
So long as this newest Call of Duty runs at a minimum of 40fps, and averages around 55-60fps, then not a single person would be the wiser.
Fredrik
Member
THAT would truly be worthy of the Greatness Awaits slogan. After a debate in another thread it was clear to me that I couldn't clearly spot the difference between 720p and 1080p unless I sat 1 meter from my TV, the couch is 4 meters away though. Having the option to run everything in 720p instead and get 60 fps locked would simply be mindblowing for me.
plagiarize
Banned
whether or not the final PS4 version runs in 1080p, if it's true that the reviewers were all playing it at 720p (for whatever reason)... I mean, it just makes all of them look like idiots. I mean, I'd stop piling on polygon for that thing about how they couldn't tell a difference with a gun to their head, and how if they saw a difference they maybe imagined it...
But it exposes that the press don't have a clue about resolution... and that review events have even more issues than I previously knew about.
But it exposes that the press don't have a clue about resolution... and that review events have even more issues than I previously knew about.
GT5 is 1280x1080 if set to output 1080p, 1280x720 if set to output 720p. It also changes the AA mode.
Not a single person? Not true.
I'm not overstating this at all. A stable framerate is supremely important to me and I do whatever I can on the PC to hit that.
The slowdown in The Last of Us was not acceptable. I still enjoyed the game but I would have enjoyed it a hell of a lot more if the framerate had been stable. I really only put up with it due to the quality of the game mixed with the fact that I understood it was running on old hardware. They were overly ambitious for the platform.
toddhunter
Member
What is the timeline on the review event vs Boyes/IW stating it was 1080p?
Actually, his opinion IS more valid, considering the vast majority of people out there would prefer to not play in colorblind mode (resulting in less accurate colors).
Your opinion was also incredibly disingenuous, considering the comparison screenshot was completely flawed (the PS4 was accidentally set to output at 720p instead of 1080p).
StoppedInTracks
Member
1080p UI downscaled to 720p can look pretty bad.
Mr Moose
Member
Which part? I know the scaling things are always on the back, but the comment about for full HD 1080p part isn't mentioned on any of my cases apart from the PS4 Ghosts one.
"Video output in full HD 1080p requires 1080p native display."
Edit: (Can they claim full HD 1080p if it's upscaled?)
They will no doubt have low end people setting up all the tvs and consoles at these events, have you been to a gaming show the tvs are normal set in fucking blowout mode ive been to somewhere they hooked up the console with the supplied compsite leads in the early years of this gen.
As for media i think we give alot of them too much credit they all wont be techy people they are there to write and review games it doesnt mean they know shite about res, gamma levels colour levels sharpness settings etc etc. If youve ever listened to podcasts they lay bare how little some of them know about this stuff.
iceatcs
Junior Member
Likely misprint, I couldn't get it 1080p mode when boot up GTA, it will auto switch to 720p.
Brad Grenz
Member
It's not Polygon's fault if Activision screwed up the system configuration. Reviewers probably weren't even allowed to mess with the system settings. I can forgive a non-technical writer for not recognizing the issue.
TigerBrown
Member
i think he is pretty much right..seeing the screenshots of the OP
both version look much identical and both horribles
maybe they used wrong setting for the ps4 i dont know
ps. the ps4 have just the black crushed
kikonawa
Member
Thats some hardcore shit
SHADES
Member
Don't you mean Treyarch or Activision? Doubt that was IW though.
Mr Moose
Member
That's not GTA V. My GTA V says 720p on the back.
Call of Duty sells 20+ million copies every year, and has almost every gamer out there convinced that it runs at a locked 60fps 100% of the time. Shocking that something so "supremely important" or "unnacceptable" could still lead to millions upon millions of sales, right?
And I shouldn't have said "not a single person" would notice. Good job, you caught me in the semantics game.