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IGN's on their defective PS4 [Up: Sony - less than 0.4% of shipped units affected]
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opticalmace
Member
0.4% is pretty good anyway, isn't it? I was under the impression 2-4% (ish) is pretty normal for electronics.
Duxxy3
Member
what if the XB1 is a dud?
Return it and plug my PS3 back in.
If its gonna break I'd rather it be during the warranty and I wait a month than it break outside of warranty and I have yo shell out more money. Its shitty either way tho.
And Xbox One; and 360; and PS3 they put a lot of stuff together.
Gabotron ES
Member
This is why I'm buying my box one year after launch, that and Halo 5.
WTF? now it's just what they are projecting...that's not what shu said??
Netherscourge
Banned
If it's true there are 4,000 PS4 in the wild right now, 0.4% means a total of 16 units are having issues.
16 out of 4,000.
16 people... 16
ALSO keep in mind - many of those units were used leftover units from tradeshows that were re-boxed and given away to the press for free. Units that were locked up in plastic cases and cabinets and played to death for HOURS on end.
16 out of 4,000.
16 people... 16
ALSO keep in mind - many of those units were used leftover units from tradeshows that were re-boxed and given away to the press for free. Units that were locked up in plastic cases and cabinets and played to death for HOURS on end.
i think sony risk a lots in the design of the console imho. Is really really tiny to be the "first" of a new gen...i know sony are good hw designer...but still i see this like a risk
i mean is even more little than of the first ps3 slim...
i hope this type of issue will not end to be more
i mean is even more little than of the first ps3 slim...
i hope this type of issue will not end to be more
So 20,000 consoles out of 5 million.......... Why are we still worrying?
Thats now how it works. Those % defective rates are over the life of a product sales. So if over 5 years iphone sells 100 million 2-3% of those will break down on average.
Grover Cleveland
Member
You say that as if companies want their products to fail or are okay with them failing. Sony would like nothing more to have a 0.00% failure rate for their stuff, as would MS and Nintendo and Apple and Samsung and any other manufacturer.
The fact is, problems happen in manufacturing from time to time, and building a product that works 100% of the time as you intended is almost impossible.
SolidusDave
Member
Well to be honest it didn't happen to me with a high-tech product yet either (but well, maybe I should actually rephrase it because that's kinda the point, the failure rates are so low that most people don't have to deal with them
).My water-powered LED shower head broke after the second shower though...
(the replacement however still works to this day
)How can Sony know a precise failure rate when the majority of consoles aren't even plugged in right now since the PS4 hasn't official launched? I really doubt they can pinpoint a cause and numbers easily at this time because there seems to be two different kind of failures so far (HDMI port and a software based issue because of updates).
Even then, 0,4% is a ridiculously low failure rate for a new electronic hardware.
Even then, 0,4% is a ridiculously low failure rate for a new electronic hardware.
Because I think that is some crappy maths - I think they just did it themselves, but essentially it's 20,000 will have a day one failure
Please!!
Yoshida stated that this failure rate was based on what they have had reported to them against the amount of units shipped to people before launch, around 5000 I think was the number.
This is not a lifetime value.
Well to be honest it didn't happen to me with a high-tech product yet either (but well, maybe I should actually rephrase it because that's kinda the point, the failure rates are so low that most people don't have to deal with them
My LED shower head broke after the second shower though...
(the replacement however still works to this day
Okay I see now. My door knob recently broke, it was fairly new but I had to re-do the soldering as the CPU got fried inside.
is a projection done by the already know failure...nothing more
the number can go up or down...depend how big this problem end to be
It's likely reported problems/systems active. They know how many are connected, they have stats on submitted tickets.
A forbes contributor is also reporting a bricked ps4. He believes it is due to a bad HDMI connection.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2013/11/14/some-ps4s-shipping-with-faulty-hdmi-ports/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2013/11/14/some-ps4s-shipping-with-faulty-hdmi-ports/
vg247 saying it's up to 4% now: http://www.vg247.com/2013/11/14/ps4-hardware-failure-rate-as-high-as-4-report/
someone debunked this tests...and i think they are wrong
coz if the ps4 really do 54 decibel is like dryer turned on (not a dryer but freakin loud to be a console)
and would be horrible
Hence 'close'? As in your ear next to the machine..
opticalmace
Member
I think they just made a mistake, and meant .4%?
Yeah, at the top it says "upped its estimation of how many PlayStation 4 units are failing by a factor of ten," which means 0.04% --> 0.4%, not 4% (which is a factor of 100).
a stock intel fan (that are loud) do 30/32db close
Why is it so hard to report this correctly?
Gary Whitta
Member
Can these people not do basic arithmetic?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
There's not 4000, there are substantially more. Plenty of shipments have arrived early via pre-orders.
"It's actually 4%! Oh, what? It's actually .4%!"
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaame journalism.
The Elite
BOSS
@yosp needs to just tweet out the number.
Q
Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
its quite disturbing that big media outlets are getting faulty ps4, i mean seriously if this issue wernt so big what would be the chances of them all getting faulty ps4 with faulty hdmi ports ?
if anyone thinks this isnt concerning then they are in denial the chances of kotaku ign and a forbes contributor all reporting same problems should be slim to none
fluffydelusions
Member
I don't understand how HDMI port suddenly goes bad on all these units.
DangerMouse
Member
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure I trust that they even know how to plug in an HDMI cable at this point lol. Given that they can't even copy/paste 0.4% correctly.
Dat journalism...just say you wrote it wrong in the article don't imply like the percentage of failed consoles just rose...
Hopefully they correct that.
Dat journalism...just say you wrote it wrong in the article don't imply like the percentage of failed consoles just rose...
Hopefully they correct that.
Without knowing information like the serial numbers, production batch details and a whole host of other bits of manufacturing information you can't even begin to say what the odds of x or y event happening.
Hypothetically - all the press units are sequential from the same production line. The solder used on the HDMI inputs on those units was slightly under the recommended amount, leading to the connector failing after the cable has been inserted.
Or it could be they're a load of Friday Jobs, finished by a factory unit that were knackered after 6x18hr days.
Welp, this doesn't look good at all.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
I have a bad feeling about tomorrow. I think people are being naive to think this is a minor thing. I hope I'm wrong.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Forbes shouldn't be reporting on any video game related material at all.
What do they know? I'd take what they say anything video game related with a grain of salt
Vestal
Gold Member
more like. Math: "How does it work?"
Ol No Bones
Banned
This happens with all new consoles.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Yeah, maybe their PS4 is working fine. They probably just forgot to plug it in. Silly Forbes.