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Xbox One Hardware/UI Review Thread
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intheinbetween
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no touchpad?
I didn't have hardly any problems with Google Voice search when I tested it & I'm from the South.
Google Voice Search using the PlayStation Eye Mic Array
But I agree that it's going to work a lot better once people adjust to the system.
You've got people crying that reviewers didn't make a big enough deal about the One's perceived deficiencies compared to the PS4. It's idiotic.
No light bar, no gyros etc etc.
No speaker or lightbar either
It's the same as a sports car comparison where one is endlessly praised for its voice navigation while the other receives little to no praise for having both more power and a significantly cheaper price point. It's just bad writing and reasoning.
Feels like that way....I'll probably buy a PS4 eventually but the tech and features that Microsoft have put into the box are really exciting, it does look like next gen.
The problem with the PS4 is that it's mainly a gaming machine with nothing much else at the moment but at launch, it actually looks like the xbox has better games
SwiftDeath
Member
There are so many minor to midlevel gripes to consider from what I have read through thus far
Is anyone keeping track of these as I find it hard to keep up with this thread and all the reviews?
- reports of Picture Degradation (maybe minimal) when using HDMI IN
- Surround Sound issues from HDMI IN
- reports of Noticeable lag from HDMI IN
- No HDD management at all
- No controller Battery power level
- Reports of minute long boot times
- Kinect still seems to be somewhat hit or miss for voice
Is anyone keeping track of these as I find it hard to keep up with this thread and all the reviews?
Rockondevil
Member
If your TV has a large enough surface on top and is very stable I can't see why not.
My TV has a decent area on top I can sit it on and I'll do what I did with the last Kinect and use some velcro to keep it on. Never once did it wobble at all, velcro is amazing stuff.
Other than fashioning something yourself pretty sure you'd need some sort of mount.
Well, it's not like that at all, but ok. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, certain reviewers are choosing to focus on the experience delivered as opposed to raw numbers.
For some people, the extra horsepower of the PS4 will deliver what they consider a superior experience. Others will prefer certain XBone features.
Why is that such a difficult concept for some people to grasp?
Well, I like it on PC (when properly configured) and I find it really useful. XBONE UI looks awful though.
This is mine for comparison (far from perfect, also not using 8.1 which gives user an option to change the size of icons):
(clicky for full size)
I dont have a dog in this fight and I'm certainly not gloating.
I just think it's asinine to claim that preferring the XBone experience over the PS4 experience at the moment is misleading or as one fool put it, "shameful".
PuppetMaster
Member
They totally could but they won't. At least not until Kinect is totally dead as a product.
They have spent too much time and money convincing suckers that Voice commands = Kinect. And they aren't going to retreat on that till the last moment.
SwiftDeath
Member
A review by any reasonable journalist should attempt to cover all facets of a consumer electronic device comparison
If you were reading reviews by journalists of various TV models and they only talked of the smart tv options without mentioning that one of the 2 tvs was stuck at 720p versus 1080p for the other would that not seem silly to you? (don't mean this as a direct analogy, XB1 is capable of 1080p etc.)
There is no reason why you wouldn't talk about hardware spec or power differentials
The closest hardware reviews for this type of things would be laptops wherein which you would literally spend most of the time on hardware spec comparisons
I had a look at the Sketchfab model of the Xbox [1], and it seems indeed to need an additional mount for TVs. It was the same with the original Kinect, IIRC.
Do the same as I did and just buy a mount. If you don't need it, you can send it back.
[1] https://sketchfab.com/show/qsRPEw7hTKC4E02XMop9DUpu2wb
but it sounds like the OS is optimised for voice, and can be a bit difficult to find/do things when using the controller - eg game DVR sounds horrible without voice. So kind of rock-hard place potentially?
some of this realisation is interesting. I guess when a product isn't out yet, and all you've seen is descriptions or controlled demos, you can project your imagination onto what it is capable of.
D'ultimate
Member
Why is this hardware review thread full of so much contempt?
The main PS4 thread here is quite large and filled with complaints about what the system does and doesn't do. Many of those issues are replied to with "probably get patched pretty soon" or something similar.
Why is it that the One is being attacked for not being perfect out the box when many of you know that some of these issues will probably be ironed out and fairly soon?
Both of these companies should have had their shit together but they don't, obviously. It's too much to ask that they be given the same treatment?
The main PS4 thread here is quite large and filled with complaints about what the system does and doesn't do. Many of those issues are replied to with "probably get patched pretty soon" or something similar.
Why is it that the One is being attacked for not being perfect out the box when many of you know that some of these issues will probably be ironed out and fairly soon?
Both of these companies should have had their shit together but they don't, obviously. It's too much to ask that they be given the same treatment?
That's my TV... it's rather thin. I thought the Kinect might come with some plating or clamp that lets you attach it rather easy. The minimum height is said to be 60cm but my TV rack is just 30cm high.
You stopped one step short of calling us SonyGAF.
Sorry for this question as it must have already been answered but,
If I plug my PC to the HDMI in, will I be able to snap it to any game im playing? Or the snap feature does not work with the HDMI in?
Also, if I plug it into the HDMI will I be able to get a signal to the TV if the xbox is in standby?
If I plug my PC to the HDMI in, will I be able to snap it to any game im playing? Or the snap feature does not work with the HDMI in?
Also, if I plug it into the HDMI will I be able to get a signal to the TV if the xbox is in standby?
From what I got, I think that some features are actually only accessible with the controller, like pinning and deleting of tiles.
First off, price always matters. So do the nitty gritty details, like the more powerful GPU. Those sorts of things are very tangible. How 'appealing' the Xbox UI is, for instance, is not. I personally loathe metro even though I use Windows 8. If a writer wants to give the impression that the XB1 is the better UI experience, that's fine. There are things - like the UI - that are open to interpretation and you can readily follow whatever site or reviewer that best mimics your personal train of thought. However, the writer should not mislead people into believing that there are no shortcomings by omitting them, or by moving the goalposts when discussing the strengths of the PS4.
NinjaCarrot
Member
I think it depends on your TV
EDIT: Looking at your TV, probably not! you'd need some sort of bracket I reckon.
Who's "us"?
Primedoughnut
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I noticed in their PS4 review they noted as a negative no 3d blu-Ray playback, but failed to mention this at all for the XB1 review
I'd hope they'd be consistent ( although to be fair, both reviews are fairly comprehensive)
famousmortimer
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I'm confused as to how the ps4 thread is different. You said it's full of complaints (as is this one) and it's filled with people saying it will get better over time (as is this one).
If people are being harder on the xbox one than the ps4 it's because it billed itself as an all in one box that seemingly doesn't live up to that promise yet. The ps4 billed itself as a game machine with share/streaming and it does both of those things wonderfully.
That's Microsoft's fault, not ours. They said it would take over the living room. Most reviews say it's a step back in controlling your living room.
But, like the Sony thread, there are many people pointing out it will get better. There's no need to get defensive.
Salvor.Hardin
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In a nutshell:
Nextgen - Well at least the potential is there.
Anyway, hardware reviews for both consoles are more or less exactly what I expected them to be. The Xbox One inching slightly ahead of the PS4 for reasons that relate to its more ambitious vision.
Don't know about you guys but I'm damned excited for what both consoles are going to bring to the table. It's easy to dismiss all the millions of dollars and thousands of hours spent on the development of these machines by guffawing at missed Kinect voice commands or an unstable PS4 UI update. I'm going to side with game and tech journalism here - it's an exciting moment for the enthusiasts and anchoring oneself in the nitty gritty is pointless given how fluid these systems are and where they intend to take us over the course of the next decade. Together, Sony and MS and redefining the home entertainment space, and in doing so are striving towards convenience in their own respective ways, which are not too dissimilar.
You have the world's best software and hardware manufacturing companies creating video game consoles. If that doesn't instill hope for you about the next 10 years for both visions, then I have no idea what will.
Nextgen - Well at least the potential is there.
Anyway, hardware reviews for both consoles are more or less exactly what I expected them to be. The Xbox One inching slightly ahead of the PS4 for reasons that relate to its more ambitious vision.
Don't know about you guys but I'm damned excited for what both consoles are going to bring to the table. It's easy to dismiss all the millions of dollars and thousands of hours spent on the development of these machines by guffawing at missed Kinect voice commands or an unstable PS4 UI update. I'm going to side with game and tech journalism here - it's an exciting moment for the enthusiasts and anchoring oneself in the nitty gritty is pointless given how fluid these systems are and where they intend to take us over the course of the next decade. Together, Sony and MS and redefining the home entertainment space, and in doing so are striving towards convenience in their own respective ways, which are not too dissimilar.
You have the world's best software and hardware manufacturing companies creating video game consoles. If that doesn't instill hope for you about the next 10 years for both visions, then I have no idea what will.
Your Eyes should be good enough.
Better games? geez thats getting old
Its pretty much a wash between the two. Just say you prefer the exclusives.
That's reassuring... >.>
Basileus777
Member
I'm not sure how this is a legitimate gripe. Were people expecting to play other game systems through HDMI in? It's not an issue for TV/video.
SmoothRunningGun
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Check cleared.
Previous gen Sony got flack for similar reasonings that reviewers are deciding to ignore on the Xbox this generation (pricepoint // power // functionality). Sony is being nitpicked for the Ps4 not having here/now features and Xbox is getting passes for "coming soon" even though Ps4 also has coming soon claims. Kinect is being inconsistant in the reviews, yet still scores high on the system even though Kinect is the controversial piece of the console? Whatever you choose to view, its obvious bias.
smurphdogg
Neo Member
I don't think a review should be a comparison. Let each device stand on its own merits and failings. Respect me enough as a reader to be able to compare bullet points and make my own value judgements.
Dalibor_San
Member
What? One is forced and one isn't, it is that simple...if you cant see why people are upset, then nothing will change your mind about it.
What is New is only there if you click down and see what is new, you are free to avoid it at all times, XBOX ONE so far looks like as soon as you move from the home menu, ads will be on the other panels.
Hopefully its minimal,I hope they don't over do it as the console itself looks fun to use, bring on the games.
the future revolves around overlaying a guide on live TV, like the original Tivo boxes did 10 years ago?
Both companies have work to do to convince me they deserve to be my primary method of consuming media. PS4 could do live TV via IPTV which they are looking into, or bringing out a next gen version of PlayTV. Xbox could integrate more deeply with select cable boxes so you can search and set up recordings.
Obligatory 'this'. I don't remember the last time I disagreed with this person.
Full disclosure: My blood is mostly Huangjiu right now, so I don't remember much.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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We can not allow for differing opinions, it just complicates things too much.
D'ultimate
Member
So...PS4 billing itself as a games machine but showing a dearth of quality titles at launch is given a pass cause "we know it's coming", for example...but the One SHOULD be torn a new one cause "MS said"?
Seriously?
I think you get my point but I'll retreat. I'm not a fan of forum squabbles.
I'm just glad that it's being universally regarded as a great gaming system. That's the thing I was most worried about because the other stuff will be easy to patch fairly quickly.
If you have Windows 8.1 then you know how quickly Microsoft can move to improve their software products.
If you have Windows 8.1 then you know how quickly Microsoft can move to improve their software products.
Cynn
Member
I'm glad to see good X1 reviews as I have one on the way. I just can't get over how almost every single reviewer gushes over the "magical" experience of saying "Xbox On". Tech reviewers should be used to voice commands by now. No one wants to break it down into specs or go into detail on software performance deeper into the OS. It's just "Oh boy! I can talk to it!"
PuppetMaster
Member
BOTH lack quality titles period. The xbox is only marginally better at this stage in exclusives. But when you factor in that all 3rd party games are 30ー50% better visually on PS4. It's hard to give the xbox any advantage in this department.
I bought a PS4 due to the fact that the Xbox One seemed to have so many features that wouldn't apply to me, but after reading all of the good things about "Upload Studio" and being able to save to Skydrive (I love to stream on Twitch and save videos to my PC). I use an Elgato capture device for streaming and hate having to wait for Sony to remove the HDCP restrictions, especially with no confirmed date when that patch will hit. Why do I feel like I backed the wrong console? I don't watch a lot of TV nor do I participate in "fantasy sports leagues" so I wouldn't use those features a lot. I am on disability and could only afford one console so the "why not get both" argument can't really help me right now.
All of the reviews seem to love Snap even though it can be sluggish and it seems like Xbox does have the better games right now. It worries me that if the Xbox One begins to pull away in terms of sales and popularity will devs develop games mainly for it and ending up with just a bad port for the PS4.
Does anyone else feel this way and is this common when new consoles are released so close to each other without having a year or so to really see how things may play out in the long run?
This is not a post to bash Sony and I am really happy to finally play AC: Black Flag in 1080p, but I am just thinking out loud and would like everyone's opinions on if I am alone in feeling this way or being a whiny b*tch.
All of the reviews seem to love Snap even though it can be sluggish and it seems like Xbox does have the better games right now. It worries me that if the Xbox One begins to pull away in terms of sales and popularity will devs develop games mainly for it and ending up with just a bad port for the PS4.
Does anyone else feel this way and is this common when new consoles are released so close to each other without having a year or so to really see how things may play out in the long run?
This is not a post to bash Sony and I am really happy to finally play AC: Black Flag in 1080p, but I am just thinking out loud and would like everyone's opinions on if I am alone in feeling this way or being a whiny b*tch.