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Digital Foundry vs. AC4 PS3/360/WiiU/PS4/XB1/PC (Take shelter)
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SolidSnakex
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It's also worth pointing out that the multiplayer in Ghosts shipped at 1080p on the PS4 and BF4 shipped at a higher resolution as well. So, there definitely doesn't seem to be any forced parity with on disc content.
I should just get me one of those Steambox thigamajigs so I can point and laugh.
I really don't appreciate the author sticking this inflammatory statement in at the end:
Console is not automatically inferior to PC graphics experience. It's becoming tiring going on internet gaming sites and seeing this statement almost as if to laugh at console people. I will not regret buying a PS4 and people shouldn't be trying to convert others to PC instead. I don't understand why he talks about PC being better value. It's almost like he has done no research into what powerful graphics Sony stuck into PS4 for $399.99:
I'm not trying to say that PC is worse/better than PS4, only an alternative.
Agreed. Why can't PC gamers just shut up already? It's getting so annoying having them shit up every graphics thread saying that their platform is superior. NOBODY CARES OK? I wish it was bannable already.
/ontopic LMAO @ The XBone and WiiU. Magic upscaler doing it's work I see haha. Also good on DF for putting n-fans in their place and saying that WiiU isn't a next-gen console. They need to knock it off with that crap hahahaha
-Pyromaniac-
Member
The WiiU version looks shitty but the Xbone version is more aggressively bad. That filter is too much.
perfectsil
Member
well it is in this game
are you arguing 30fps vs 60 fps(with better anti-aliasing and HBAO+) ? and you don't need that $650 card to play AC4 in 60 fps. and oh you can't play AC4 multiplayer on PS4 if you only spend $399.
HORRORSHØW
Member
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After hearing the reports, I am glad that I didn't buy Assassin Creed VI at full price yesterday.
If I recall correctly I think that Ubisoft outsource both the Assassin Creed VI and Watch_Dog port.
I know that the Wii U version of Batman Arkham Origin was outsourced.
If I recall correctly I think that Ubisoft outsource both the Assassin Creed VI and Watch_Dog port.
I know that the Wii U version of Batman Arkham Origin was outsourced.
SwiftDeath
Member
Albert Penello said:
Well 900p -> 1080p is a difference of 44% pixel count
But PS4 version also has a more stable if not far more stable framerate
Oh and actually has AA or at least much improved AA
I see what you did there
Zombie James
Banned
redmetal86
Member
Wow those Xbox One screens. Puts me in a mood to go to The Sharper Image and buy every season of JAG on DVD.
And the Wii U.....Ubisoft somehow got Activision to port Blur to it.
And the Wii U.....Ubisoft somehow got Activision to port Blur to it.
I'd actually take the Wii U version over the Xbox One version based on this. God damn that sharpening is so bad on XBO.
SwiftDeath
Member
So at this point will MS ever get rid of the sharpening filter?
I can't foresee a turn of events that would make them unless like a #NoPS4DRM campaign starts for it
I can't foresee a turn of events that would make them unless like a #NoPS4DRM campaign starts for it
Neuromancer
Member
They brought over the 360's gamma curve and must of been worried enough about blurriness complaints from upscaling so they threw a sharpening filter on top of it. Which just goes to show they knew most games wouldn't be 1080p on their system.
360's gamma curve(pc left vs 360 right)
More on the 360's gamma curve.
"Performance: Im not dismissing raw performance. Im stating as I have stated from the beginning that the performance delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe."
Let's see.
(1920*1080) / (1600*900) = 1.44
1.84 TF / 1.31 TF = 1.40
Hmm. It seems like the performance delta is greater than the raw numbers would lead one to believe. (Of course, that's disregarding the 2x advantage in ROPs, which is the likely cause)
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
Well done Nintendo on your weak arses next gen system.
Deus Ex Machina
Member
Why's this surprising? It's a much stronger console.
I really don't appreciate the author sticking this inflammatory statement in at the end:
Console is not automatically inferior to PC graphics experience. It's becoming tiring going on internet gaming sites and seeing this statement almost as if to laugh at console people. I will not regret buying a PS4 and people shouldn't be trying to convert others to PC instead. I don't understand why he talks about PC being better value. It's almost like he has done no research into what powerful graphics Sony stuck into PS4 for $399.99:
I'm not trying to say that PC is worse/better than PS4, only an alternative.
I'm still not sure if this image is serious..
STOP MAKING IT SO HARD ON ME.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Hey if you're going for sub-pixel aliasing you might as well go big.
You've got to be kidding. You say PC players shouldn't bash consoles for their weaker hardware but then go on to bash the Xbox One and Wii U for not performing as well as PS4? You're a total hypocrite.
MasterOfPuppets
Member
They have PS5s and Xbox Twos?
Dragon1893
Member
Really nice to see the PS4 delivering 1080p in most games with a good frame-rate to go with it.
X1 once again delivering worse performance even at a lower resolution.
Don't even know what to say about the WiiU version though I was kinda expecting it since it already struggled with AC3, the cpu is a huge bottleneck for games with lots of npcs because of all the AIs.
X1 once again delivering worse performance even at a lower resolution.
Don't even know what to say about the WiiU version though I was kinda expecting it since it already struggled with AC3, the cpu is a huge bottleneck for games with lots of npcs because of all the AIs.
Regular ass MSAA sucks simply due to lack of alpha coverage. If you add support for that it's no longer MSAA, really.
I don't understand the popularity.
Some of the post process solutions (SMAA) can look quite nice without impacting performance. Even without a performance hit I wouldn't use MSAA.
Sgssaa, txaa, and ssaa are all superior, but slower, options.
They mention sub-pixel crawl that is unavoidable unless running PC with better AA solutions. Unless you aren't talking about flickering due to aliasing.
Have to say I'm pleasantly surprised how closely the PS4 version matches up to PC in this comparison.
BibiMaghoo
Member
Why is no one talking about that weird shimmering shit that goes on in the Ps4 version when the camera is moved? This was really noticeable to me, and looks nasty. When the camera doesn't move it looks fantastic, as this doesn't happen.
Is it only me that see's this? It's not present on any other PS4 game, so it is not my TV.
Is it only me that see's this? It's not present on any other PS4 game, so it is not my TV.
The point .
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Are the compression artifacts in this from the source?
It's kind of silly to do an IQ comparison with JPG compression staring you in the face. I mean, the ranking is still obvious, but particularly the PC shot (and also PS4) could look even cleaner without the compression.
This is Digital Foundry who captured 720p screens of PC games for proper comparison for a large portion of last gen.
Colonel Mustard
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From this link, I learned that Dreamfall Chapters is coming to the WiiU. Nice!
This is my experience with the game too. I just reached the conclusion that I'm blind. Or my beamer is broken.
ChuyMasta
Member
Bro!!!..Bro!...bro!...bro....Sarcasm.
GameAddict411
Member
dang, xbox one...
who ever scared that child should be stabbed.
That's a strange definition. Methods like alpha-to-coverage have existed for over a decade, and no one calls MSAA with alpha-to-coverage "not MSAA".
The main point is that more samples per pixel > trying to guess an edge from a low sample count. And of course, the most significant issue with the latter doesn't even show up in still images.
Q.E.D.
BibiMaghoo
Member
I realized that was a possibility, but I determined that the poster was not being sarcastic. If I was wrong, then oh well. Thanks.
Yeesh Nintendo, forget about the WiiU being a cheap alternative for playing multiplats. Right now that's the PS3 or the 360. Also surprising that the XBO version both looks and performs worse than the PS4 version, the raw power gap is clearly being exacerbated by architectural flaws as well. The upscaler should not be degrading image quality to that degree.
OG_Original Gamer
Member
ACIII was just as bad on WiiU. So how is that COD can hit much better than that in multiplayer, this BO2 in Ground War.
HORRORSHØW
Member
I've played AC4 for 20+ hours and I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm going to be looking for it next time I boot it up, though.
Of course, but few games implement anything like that on foliage so using MSAA produces awful results on such assets. I really dislike the way it looks most of the time.
To be fair, I play games on my plasma exclusively so most post solutions produce perfectly acceptable results due to both viewing distance and subpixel differences. Stuff like fxaa looks good on the Kuro but awful on my LCD monitor. MSAA does produce smooth lines, but if the game doesn't support any sort of alpha coverage then you end up with a lot of ugly foliage.
Mithos
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Treyarch (that is why, if you are referring to CoD on Wii U)