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SimCity offline mode is FINALLY coming

The unpleasantness, in my view, was caused by a number of factors: the ambiance of the pipe laying layer (music, etc.) struck me as rather depressing, to the point where I wanted to spend as little time there as humanly possible. Additionally, it took me a rather long time to lay the pipes (because apparently I wasn't doing it right) (I would make my pipes follow avenues and streets and then form a net under each building). Lastly, it seemed to bring the pace of the game to a halt, because I would spend all of this time underground, while my city was progressing above me. For all I knew, it could be burning to the ground up there and I would miss it, or else I would need to pause the game and spend several minutes where my city does literally nothing aside from getting some pipes.

If you ever go back and play sc4, laying pipe is really easy as long as youre not going under mountains or very deep rivers. Just run one long pipe across the top of your city. Then, every 6 squares, put pipe running down. It would take all of 3 minutes on the largest size. Just extend the down pipes as needed while you develop and the city grows.

Subways on the other hand... That takes planning. What I usually end up doing is making avenue round-abouts. Given how the lay on the grid, theres 4 left open squares around the round about. I use those spaces for public transit stops, buses, subway, ect.
 
Yeah, I thought yay finally gonna buy the game, then the thread reminded me of many other problems. I'll prolly just replay SC4 but with NAM this time.
 

casmith07

Member
Gies please leave.

But seriously, there are people who showed him a modded game with the offline working. They dissected the game. It's clear some people know as much as the developers when they create workarounds for the players.

Plus, those "excuses" by EA and Maxis were absolute bullshit and clearly noted they didn't know what they were talking about.

No, they definitely knew what they were talking about. They just wanted you to buy their game.
 

Arkanius

Member
Will they finally give us bigger cities?
Despite all the bug fixes and improvements they did, they never managed to pull me 100% to the game.

Thank god I bought it for only 20$ at release. I would feel ripped otherwise
 

Nokterian

Member
Bwhahahaha what? Oooh now we get offline. And the game is still broken right? Yeah not touching it at all. Pathetic attempt to win people back.
 

Nokterian

Member
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Jim is the best always to the point <3
 

Terra

Member
Another evidence that the views and opinions voiced by the majority here on NeoGAF is to take seriously, and not just scoff at.

My total boycott of EA still stands though.
 

Zaphod

Member
This strikes me as the equivalent of comparing a modern main battle tank to a World War II heavy tank. Sure, the World War II heavy tank is several times larger and heavier, and the fact that it is visually more imposing due to its size makes it look like the better vehicle, but the newer, smaller vehicle can do a lot of things that the older one can't.

Modern Main Battle Tank - M1 Abrams - 67.6 Tons
WWII Main Battle Tank - M4 Sherman - 33.4 Tons
 

quaide

Banned
Screw that game! Disappointment of the year 2013. The game single-handedly ruined the Simcity franchise. It was a glorified web game. Made purely to take advantage of long time fans and designed around micro transactions.

Offline mode will not make me play it. The city sizes are abysmal. The AI is horrible. In the end it was just a shiny turd.
 

Deadstar

Member
Arthur Gies redeemed!

Oh wait, what's the other word?



Small cities that limit longevity, crap simulation, having to run multiple cities to get access to most stuff, etc. Don't bother really. It's a crappy game. The always online was just icing on the shit cake.

I have no interest in this game because of the city size. It's sim town not sim city. They need to just let this game die and work on a proper sequel to the last good Sim City game.
 

Ovek

7Member7
With all the talk of modding it sound like they want the community to pick up the slack and finish/fix the game for them.
 

Coconut

Banned
So... Does it make it a game worth playing if it's offline? Because by all accounts online/offline or whatever it's still not "good".
 

krae_man

Member
Okay Gies current tweets are interesting. He's claiming he never said it was impossible to patch out the offline, just that nobody who didn't work for Maxis would be able to know for sure if it was or not. Or something.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
So it's finally happening. The thing that should have been in from Day 1.
Now I can cross my fingers for SWTOR offline......Yeah it's a stretch but I didn't even think this would happen.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
I agree with you there. He isn't saying that it couldn't be played offline, he is just saying that only people at Maxis can claim that.


But that's where I disagree with him. People outside of Maxis have an understanding about how things work. Also, in general, software can be manipulated to do whatever you want. DRM can be turned off. A simple look at what data is coming from the servers showed people on day one that there wasn't any "cloud computing" happening. All that was happening was multiplayer. People said they wanted single player. Maxis said they can't do that. They could. And now they have, almost a year later.


If I said "If you don't work at DICE you literally have no idea if they can up the fire rate on the FAMAS" I would get laughed off the internet. 99.99% of the people who would laugh me off couldn't write the code to up the fire rate but you don't need to be able to write the code to know what's possible.

It's these statements, over and over, that cause a lot of people to not respect Gies. He says this insane shit like he is the only person who understands videogames and the vast majority of the time what he is saying is patently false. He deserves shit when he is. We all do. I've been wrong and eaten plenty of shit sandwiches.
Well I do think that online-requirements and capabilities are probably a bit more difficult to understand than the fire rate by a gun, but I do see your point. And trust me, what little I know of Gies, I understand he's not reputable, but even disreputable people should be allowed to say what they say without immediate write off. I was just trying to be fair, even if I was wrong to defend him in this case. My bad for not knowing the context with which that was said.

Additionally, I don't know if you caught my apology from a while back, but I was also wrong for my accusation of your 'PC gaming' credentials and I'm sorry for that. I felt really bad for that.
 

Mindwipe

Member
I didn't know until this thread that Kuchera was at Polygon now.

Well, they don't do things by halves, I'll give them that.
 

lil smoke

Banned
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Just in case people somehow think this news makes the game worth playing.

Say no more. That is just....

What is the f'in point?

edit: this is sad, there was a time, when I was going to buy a separate large monitor just to run SC on an old Mac all day. I loved the game that much.
 
Okay Gies current tweets are interesting. He's claiming he never said it was impossible to patch out the offline, just that nobody who didn't work for Maxis would be able to know for sure if it was or not. Or something.

Its still a moot point since the game could run for about 20 mins after a connection was lost before the player was booted out. It was clear back then that the claims about server-side computing were bullshit.
 

Bedlam

Member
A few minutes ago Gies tweeted "@XaiaX @mudron i have lots of thoughts on this today, but i'm just going to keep them to myself for now.
He probably is thinking hard right now about how to best spin this so he still can claim to have been right. He'll probably accuse EA/Maxis of making a huge mistake by giving in to players' demands and finally allowing offline functionality. Or he'll claim it's a completely different game now. Or he'll claim that with "complex server-side calculations" all he meant was cloud saves all along. Something like that.
 

Atrophis

Member
Dude he never admits he is wrong. Its always just a misinterpretation of what he wrote or he is actually still right despite the evidence.
 

ghostmind

Member
Nope - sorry SimCity, but I've moved on.

And next time, I won't be thinking about purchasing your latest version until well-after the reviews and impressions have come in.
 

Bedlam

Member
He couldn't just say he was wrong instead of sarcastically commenting on retweets?
Saying "I was wrong" does not seem to be in his dna. He will do anything before admitting his mistakes, that includes completely and utterly embarrassing himself on the internet.
 

mavs

Member
Man gamers got pretty lucky being 100% right when they had literally no idea what they were talking about. Wish I could get 100% on a test when I have no idea what any of the answers are.
 

Marcel

Member
The mental capacity of somebody taking the effort to tweet a video game journalist over something so meaningless is already under serious question.

I don't think it's a lot of effort to call Arthur Gies a fucking idiot. Like every person in here quoting the infamous tweet is basically doing that and they're not straining. I think we're simply having a good time.

Why do you hate fun?
 
Ahhh offline gaming, Still fighting the fight and rightly so, Diablo 3 on console with local play co-op is a truly fun experience so maybe Diablo should be next for PC gamers.
 

Dueck

Banned
Saying "I was wrong" does not seem to be in his dna. He will do anything before admitting his mistakes, that includes completely and utterly embarrassing himself on the internet.

For a guy so obviously pro-online, you'd think he'd have a better understanding of how the internet works. It'll rip liars apart as shamelessly and publicly as possible.
 
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