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BraXzy

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So here is the Jadehoof courier for people who want to see its in-game look.

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Sibylus

Banned
I wonder if they already have additional recoloured spell icons and minimap icon for the non-red prismatic gems, or if that's coming.
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
Ok someone on reddit confirmed you can hammer out the gem but it destroys the arcana.

LOL GJ VALVE NICE FUCKIN SCAM. wat a joke
 

Artanisix

Member
Ok someone on reddit confirmed you can hammer out the gem but it destroys the arcana.

LOL GJ VALVE NICE FUCKIN SCAM. wat a joke

agreed they should just make it so you can't replace the gem color at all so people shut the fuck up about an added feature
 

traveler

Not Wario
Why are people acting like the destruction inherent to the gem removal is some sort of shady scam? This is consistent with the way gem removal has worked since it was added to the game. I mean, I agree that it kind of sucks, but this revelation should have occurred ages ago and it's better than not being able to replace at all.

Also, someone used the Blossom Red to make this pink-ish TB:

 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
agreed they should just make it so you can't replace the gem color at all so people shut the fuck up about an added feature

It's not even that dude you can't access the fucking feature without permanently destroying your $35 color purchase. Don't even try to defend this. They could easily make the gem extractable without destroying the arcana. I paid $35 for reflection's shade and then I'm paying an extra $3-10 if I want a different color. This is the least they can do.
 

BraXzy

Member
The Arcana should have just had some preset colours that were styles like most other sets in that vein. It's stupid how it isn't like that.
 
Ok someone on reddit confirmed you can hammer out the gem but it destroys the arcana.

LOL GJ VALVE NICE FUCKIN SCAM. wat a joke

That's just how gems work. And the store page clearly states the color is based on a gem:

Socketed with a gem that tints the coloring of Terrorblade and all of his abilities

How is that a scam?

I wonder if they already have additional recoloured spell icons and minimap icon for the non-red prismatic gems, or if that's coming.

For every possible prismatic gem color? I fail to see how that would work.

Since they can't automatically adjust to the gem (like the particle effects), they probably just stay red no matter what.
 
Why are people acting like the destruction inherent to the gem removal is some sort of shady scam? This is consistent with the way gem removal has worked since it was added to the game. I mean, I agree that it kind of sucks, but this revelation should have occurred ages ago and it's better than not being able to replace at all.

Also, someone used the Blossom Red to make this pink-ish TB:

Hmm. Not sure about the pink now. Might need to see it in-game. Gonna make mine white, I think. Purple looks hot too, though. I wish that the preview button in the socketing menu worked for the color change.

This game really, really could use a item_test map like Team Fortress 2 has, where you can test items with any colors or effects you want. Guessing and hoping shouldn't have to be parts of this experience.

It's not even that dude you can't access the fucking feature without permanently destroying your $35 color purchase. Don't even try to defend this. They could easily make the gem extractable without destroying the arcana. I paid $35 for reflection's shade and then I'm paying an extra $3-10 if I want a different color. This is the least they can do.

At minimum, there should be a "reset to original" option under its right-click menu that puts the original color gem back in it if you're not happy with the changed color.
 

traveler

Not Wario
Should've jumped on white. Creator's Light was $8 last I checked. Now? ~$30

It's not even that dude you can't access the fucking feature without permanently destroying your $35 color purchase. Don't even try to defend this. They could easily make the gem extractable without destroying the arcana. I paid $35 for reflection's shade and then I'm paying an extra $3-10 if I want a different color. This is the least they can do.

This has been in the game since November. Why would TB's arcana suddenly work any differently than the couriers, some of which are several times more valuable than the arcana?

Also, let's see that black arcana. Still deciding on mine.
 

Artanisix

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It's not even that dude you can't access the fucking feature without permanently destroying your $35 color purchase. Don't even try to defend this. They could easily make the gem extractable without destroying the arcana. I paid $35 for reflections shade and then I'm paying an extra $3-10 if I want a different color. This is the least they can do.

Bro you didn't pay $35 for the prismatic gem, stop acting like you did. That's a total joke of a claim. You paid $35 for the "new animations, new spell effects and icons, new death and respawn music, an altered voice, [and the ability] to change the color of his abilities and weapons with gems, and more," not for a shade of red.
 

Sibylus

Banned
For every possible prismatic gem color? I fail to see how that would work.

Since they can't automatically adjust to the gem (like the particle effects), they probably just stay red no matter what.
Easily done, just create a white template set of icons and colour-correct them against the given gem.
 
Should've jumped on white. Creator's Light was $8 last I checked. Now? ~$30



This has been in the game since November. Why would TB's arcana suddenly work any differently than the couriers, some of which are several times more valuable than the arcana?

Also, let's see that black arcana. Still deciding on mine.

Yeah I have the black gem laying in my inventory, I wanna see screenshots before I slap it in though.

And a grey as well, but I doubt that will be terribly exciting.
 
This has been in the game since November. Why would TB's arcana suddenly work any differently than the couriers, some of which are several times more valuable than the arcana?

Also, let's see that black arcana. Still deciding on mine.

That's a fair point. But this:

"Socketed with a gem that tints the coloring of Terrorblade and all of his abilities"

Is not a complete enough description. It should be as clear as it is on the blog post and said something like:

"Change the color of his abilities and weapons with Prismatic Gems from the marketplace!"

And if that was the idea (for most to pick and choose their own color), why not just make the gem a common, existing color like standard red? That way people don't feel like they're destroying a fairly rare gem color. After all, there's no indication that this gem color will appear in any couriers or similar.

I have to admit, the fact that it's a unique gem is making me pause before overwriting it forever too.
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
Yeah I have the black gem laying in my inventory, I wanna see screenshots before I slap it in though.

Is there a preview option? I know the Unusual couriers have one for what different effects will look like. I guess there is no reason to be in a rush.
 
The Arcana should have just had some preset colours that were styles like most other sets in that vein. It's stupid how it isn't like that.

That would be less confusing and potentially less expensive, but would also limit the available colors to a fixed set of 3 or maybe 5.

Using the prismatic gem system pretty much means there is an endless supply of alternative styles. Every time a new prismatic gem is added to the game there is a new style to choose from.
 

traveler

Not Wario
That's a fair point. But this:

"Socketed with a gem that tints the coloring of Terrorblade and all of his abilities"

Is not a complete enough description. It should be as clear as it is on the blog post and said something like:

"Change the color of his abilities and weapons with Prismatic Gems from the marketplace!"

And if that was the idea (for most to pick and choose their own color), why not just make the gem a common, existing color like standard red? That way people don't feel like they're destroying a fairly rare gem color. After all, there's no indication that this gem color will appear in any couriers or similar.

I have to admit, the fact that it's a unique gem is making me pause before overwriting it forever too.

The store page could be a bit better, yeah. And I would go ahead and take that image of the three tbs out, as it implies that you are at least getting access to those three colors.
 

KScorp

Member
Kinda wish they showed which cycle you get your courier from. I got 290m first cycle, then 31m second cycle. Got 1 jadehoof out of it though, so I'm happy.

All this arcana talk making me jealous, I want some arcana for heroes I actually play, damn it!
 

RS4-

Member
Kinda wish they showed which cycle you get your courier from. I got 290m first cycle, then 31m second cycle. Got 1 jadehoof out of it though, so I'm happy.

All this arcana talk making me jealous, I want some arcana for heroes I actually play, damn it!

Yeah, I got my jade from our game.
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
I really do find the Prismatic Gem in it a cool feature, far cooler then the Lifetime Duel wins gem. I hope Valve goes back and adds something cool like it to the Lina Arcana, and actually look forward to what other small things they put on items.
 
I really do find the Prismatic Gem in it a cool feature, far cooler then the Lifetime Duel wins gem. I hope Valve goes back and adds something cool like it to the Lina Arcana, and actually look forward to what other small things they put on items.

agreed.

I'm tempted to try out some odd colors like Tnim S'nnam and Placid Blue.

I just really don't want to overwrite that unique gem. UGH.


Ok, white is legit.

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awww shit. I had a feeling it'd look good. Still...everyone and their momma is gonna try for white now. Gotta be DIFFERENT.
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
Reddit makes a decent point, I do wonder if this means Valve will start selling Prismatic Gems incorrectly in the future. Hat barons would hat it, but they hate anything that lowers the value of their "investments."

Here is black, I don't really like it:
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Reddit makes a decent point, I do wonder if this means Valve will start selling Prismatic Gems on their own in the future.

I wonder too. Or...maybe they will just keep releasing items that can accept them, thus indirectly boosting the sales of keys (which is how we get couriers...and gems...).
 

Dec

Member
White looks lame. Purple looks good, green would probably be nice too.

Is there orange? Because that would 100% be the best.
 
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