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2016-17 TV Cancellations Thread: TNT finds "Nothing can come of nothing."
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Looks like it wasn't?
It won't be cancelled in five weeks. It will be tightly cancelled at the end of the season. They'd have to be a major disaster to be pulled from the air in their fourth season.
Bull - 2.3. The NCIS audience will want to check out Weatherly I think. So more important will be the 15+ million of viewers.
This Is Us - 1.9. Mainly because I think The Voice will slide further.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
This is Us was great btw, real tearjerker. I'm a sucker for this shit.
Plus we got this hottie, what's not to like
Plus we got this hottie, what's not to like
This is Us was great btw, real tearjerker. I'm a sucker for this shit.
Plus we got this hottie, what's not to like
Fresh off Young and the Restless!
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
The ads I've been seeing on Twitter for Bull keep using the tagline "He'll get you off," which was also used in a self aware way for The Grinder. I'm pretty sure Bull is playing it completely straight though.
Finaika
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This is Us was great btw, real tearjerker. I'm a sucker for this shit.
Plus we got this hottie, what's not to like
Isn't that Oliver Queen?
It is about a sex addict-genius-defense-lawyer/fake television doctor.
PHOENIXZERO
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This is Us was great btw, real tearjerker. I'm a sucker for this shit.
Plus we got this hottie, what's not to like
Best Green Arrow.
I can't believe I'm saying that.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
xrnzaaas
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That sucks for Craig. I really wish he didn't leave his show on the CBS, because for me it was the only watchable late night show.
User 479360
Banned
I'm going to watch This is Us now. I PVRed it after hearing good things. It was aggressively advertised on CTV, though, and does look good.
Me too!
Me too!
Bull was so bad, if you thought another show was gonna be bad, this is like, objectively bad. Like so poorly crafted, how did any of this make it to air?
I know I don't watch a lot of legal procedural dramas but it feels like I walked into the middle of the 6th season of a show where the writers are seriously spiraling.
Let's see:
Also man Spielberg must have his claws in everything cause he is getting a paycheque for this shit.
If none of this made sense then it's pretty clear the entire pilot for Bull made no sense at all or that I was just so good at communicating how the episode unfolded in the same manner as the show did.
Man and I thought the upcoming cop show where a billionaire buys a police department and outfits it with gadgets was gonna be bad. At least even the trailers had a sense of pathos in it. This show did not even seem like it tried to do anything other than simply exist.
I know I don't watch a lot of legal procedural dramas but it feels like I walked into the middle of the 6th season of a show where the writers are seriously spiraling.
Let's see:
- the opening montage/collage while cool looking starts with someone questioning "innocent until proven guilty?" and ends with "Rich people don't play by the same rules" and the episode proceeds with the 'team' basically defending a rich kid for murdering a young woman.
- i'm not even gonna start on the shot where they turn shot into a still photo into a meme
- also let's start on the body of a dead young woman (of colour) because we haven't seen that in a while
- no one on the main cast is ever properly introduced or given a moment to shine, not even THE LEAD. he just leans casually in the corner when the defense team lawyers walk in and he is introduced by name. I mean what he did was just look at some screens and tell us who was gonna vote guilty. That was really, really, weak, and I've seen pretty pathetic character intros.
- hilarious overly green screened shot that also doubles as exposition dump for the case. this is before you even cut to commercial. c'mon guys.
- basically fill 15 minutes of characters talking shop about the case with no character work whatsoever. Cause this isn't the pilot at all.
- somehow the only shocking thing is: a teenage girl (defendant's girlfriend) up on the stand and when she gets pissed off, she actually throws the tablet (to read her texts back) at the lawyer's face, square in the damn nose!
- like literally the scene after is where the dead girl's father waltzes up the steps of the courthouse to take a shot at father of the guy who is on trial WITH NO BUILDUP WHATSOEVER. the last scene had more tension to it!
- another 10 minutes of shop talking and then the main character telling his defendant client that he knows he's gay, and that's totally a valid defense and why he didn't kill that girl, because he didn't have sex with her... again. And apparently it's true and he knew the whole time... because he's just that good? well no, they don't mention anything about it. But he's gay, so let's roll with it.
- the other subplot is Michael Weatherly convincing the sole female defense lawyer to take the lead at the end to sway the one lady who would cause everyone to vote not guilty, there's that too I guess.
- also the defendant client who is a rich white boy is found not guilty and the poor minority family is left to suffer in this quick glimpse of the mother sobbing for about five seconds. who cares about the victim's family? this poor white boy is the victim here, he's on trial and then had to come out!
- as everyone leaves the courthouse, Michael Weatherly confronts aforementioned jury lady (who swung the vote) why she voted not guilty even though the show told us at least three times why (because the guy on trial reminded her of her son, they just had to get her there). she calls him out on his psychoanalysis crap and says he must live a lonely life. this sentiment is completely unearned as we cut to black.
- at this point I'm not sure if excising the "disturbed" part of "disturbed genius" was such a good idea. I felt like I was watching gears turn instead of a TV show.
- Oh and the twist is that the outed gay client was having an affair with the tablet throwing teenage girl's father. And that girl's mother actually killed the actual victim (who cares about her anymore, she's not white) cause she's messed up like that and loves her daughter so so so much and kept a trophy of it cause that's what rational non-serial murder-moms do. And then the cops show up outside and OUR LEAD comes striding out of the lead vehicle because, well it wasn't his client so I guess that's fine. that's the pilot y'all!
Also man Spielberg must have his claws in everything cause he is getting a paycheque for this shit.
If none of this made sense then it's pretty clear the entire pilot for Bull made no sense at all or that I was just so good at communicating how the episode unfolded in the same manner as the show did.
Man and I thought the upcoming cop show where a billionaire buys a police department and outfits it with gadgets was gonna be bad. At least even the trailers had a sense of pathos in it. This show did not even seem like it tried to do anything other than simply exist.
PHOENIXZERO
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I don't think he jumped, he was pushed.
He was safe as long as Letterman was around, because part of Letterman's deal was that in addition to Late Show, he also got control of the following hour, and Ferguson was his guy.
However, as soon as Letterman left the network CBS would take back full control of the Late Late Show, and I always got the sense that CBS was never super high on Ferguson, despite him doing such an excellent job.
spindoctor
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Could it be Bloodline? Or was it mentioned that it was a network show? Been so long I've forgotten.
Also could be Tyrant.
Well NCIS felt empty without DiNozzo.
Nice to see Bud Roberts from JAG again tho
I havent seen NCIS yet. No DiNozzo, that's gonna be hard.
Not sure if the two new agents will fill the void but I'll keep watching, McGee and Gibbs are still there so. <3
Michaels new show Bull doesn't seem that good.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I dug This Is Us. Hope it does well.
Both This Is Us and Graves both hit the right notes with me.
This Is Us just had the right tone from the start, was only really checking it out because of who made it and who was in it. Didn't expect to like it that much.
Graves had a good pilot, too. Wonderful actors, good balance between drama and comedy. Enjoyed it, looking forward to seeing more.
Think I might drop Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. It's not that it's bad or anything, it's just that I can barely keep concentrated enough to actually watch the episode. Never a good sign, might as well give something else those 45 minutes.
Hulu.
This Is Us just had the right tone from the start, was only really checking it out because of who made it and who was in it. Didn't expect to like it that much.
Graves had a good pilot, too. Wonderful actors, good balance between drama and comedy. Enjoyed it, looking forward to seeing more.
Think I might drop Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. It's not that it's bad or anything, it's just that I can barely keep concentrated enough to actually watch the episode. Never a good sign, might as well give something else those 45 minutes.
Hulu.
I wouldn't say I enjoyed it but, yeah, as someone who really liked the first five seasons of King of Queens, it actually wasn't so bad. Definitely better than the last seasons of that show, even though it's pretty much the same and lacking in charme going by the pilot.
I think it has a very real chance to become the 'Empire for white people' in terms of ratings.
*folds arms*
You'll be watching Lethal Weapon.
*shakes fist*
Ya' hear me!
I rather drag my dick through broken glass than watch a Lethal Weapon TV show.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Everyone is going to watch Lethal Weapon! Ted from Rectify as Riggs. It could be fun, The Player was a nice dumb surprise for me last season.
sparky2112
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Wife and I watched the hour of The Good Place, and we were both on the same page: other than her amusing inability to swear and great-ish production values, it's not good (or at least not funny).
I think that's the tag line for Fox's marketing this season.
Like all Shur shows, don't expect it to become actually great until after six episodes.
Hmm, 1/2 ain't bad for my predictions. Lol. I didn't think Bull would grow from NCIS though.
Not a bad return for shows
mostly flat
Decent debut for Bull
YES! NCIS is still doing dem double diggits.
yankeehater
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I had no idea what it was before I watched, my wife just put it on, but I thought that it was actually pretty good. Seems like there is definitely potential there to do some fun stuff.
streetsahead123
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Surprised Bull didn't debut higher considering how hard CBS has been pushing it.
Not a bad return for shows
mostly flat
Decent debut for Bull
Those Scream Queens and SHIELD numbers are fairly low, no? Scream Queens premiered lower (in viewership) than it went out on its finale last season. Well, it went out on a 0.9 and last night was a 1.0. Progress?
dead souls
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I love Scream Queens but it never should have been renewed. It's a flop.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
It's a Ryan Murphy show - FOX's bread and butter, of course it was going to stay on the air. If ever it is renewed for a third season, it should be moved to their FX suite. I bet they could get the same viewing figures as they get on FOX there.
Neither show was impressive last year in the ratings.
I love it, too. I have last night's premiere on the DVR, worth watching?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
First half is boring, it's exposition, second half is fun.
Damn, Penguin smoking my ass because I'm not in the routine yet
It's the "your weekly cry it out" show. Seriously.
A coworker posted a photo of herself on Facebook showing the immediate aftermath of watching that show, mascara streaming down her cheeks.
It's the "your weekly cry it out" show. Seriously.
A coworker posted a photo of herself on Facebook showing the immediate aftermath of watching that show, mascara streaming down her cheeks.
They should use that as Web 2.0 marketing for the show. Well, I guess they unintentionally already are.
I hope it's Parenthood 2.0. We'll plan to watch it tonight.
BTW, a humble request for y'all: I know spoiler concerns are oft-considered déclassé 'round these parts, but if the shocking cameo is indeed shocking, please spoiler tag it when it happens, including the title of the show I guess? Maybe just the network name unspoiler-tagged. (Still hoping for Nina Dobrev. But if we just post "the show was The Vampire Diaries" the spoiler itself will be potentially unfortunately obvious).
It's
Zombie Kate
__NCIS__
an NCIS\TWD spinoff.
It's pretty obvious, really.
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