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[Saty]

Shows that get picked up have something going for them: a passionate fanbase, international deals, critical reception etc. Other than Sepinwall, did any critics even mention Quarry after the debut?

Dunno, i thought it was regarded as one of the best new dramas of 2016, if not the best.

 

[Danthrax]

I don't think so. They have an episode with Adam West coming up.

I'm sure that'll be a real highlight on a Saturday night in June

 

[caliph95]

Dunno, i thought it was regarded as one of the best new dramas of 2016, if not the best.

It was the year of American Crime Story and Stranger things (though i didn't love ST) so i doubt it

 

[Pachimari]

What happened to American Crime? It isn't getting good ratings, did the hype deflate?

 

[Jason Frost]

Wasn't The Knick supposed to have like 4 or 5 seasons at least with Cinemax?

 

[TheOddOne]

I think critics have a very hard time, collectively, are drawn to moving and emotional stories. But they also, collectively, do a poor job at being able to separate earned emotional stories from pandering schmaltz. I admit that I'm probably on the wrong side myself sometimes (I think Parenthood worked until the very end . . . . . .) I feel safe making a collective judgment because there is a pretty well documented herd mentality here. Not what some people would say where critics are all biased morons, but rather that I think most people go in giving something the benefit of the doubt, form a provisional conclusion, and then through talking with others or reading others that they respect, update this conclusion. Bayesian reasoning. And that would lead you to this same kind of thing where people cluster around generally accepted wisdom because it reinforces their first take. I have specifically noticed this when it comes to being able to call out stuff that is just over the top emotionally manipulative. It's also something people will inoculate against over time as well, so to some extent it reflects TV's relative immaturity as a medium compared to film.

Then again, critics thought Go Ask Alice was a devastating portrayal of teenage experience and drugs rather than a hackeneyed anti-drug propaganda piece written by someone with you better believe at least 10 pet cats. And most of the major TV critics are actually on the older end--Sepinwall is in his 40s! So it could just be that everyone is suckered into teenage tragedy porn. "Oh This Really Tells A Story About What It Is Like To Be A Teenager" why are you saying this you were a teenager when Eisenhower was president

I say this having not seen 13 Reasons Why but being genuinely mortified by reading a summary of the novel.

And I agree.

 

[Rekwest]

Wasn't The Knick supposed to have like 4 or 5 seasons at least with Cinemax?

Nop.

 

[Jason Frost]

Nop.

But didn't they planned The Knick to last like 4 or 5 seasons before ending it?

I remember reading something like that.

 

[kevin1025]

I'm sure that'll be a real highlight on a Saturday night in June

Powerless: The Lost Episodes, coming to DVD!

Yeah, I'm suspecting a Powerless night dump in early June if it's fully pulled.

 

[dead souls]

But didn't they planned The Knick to last like 4 or 5 seasons before ending it?

I remember reading something like that.

All showrunners claim to have a 4, 5, 7, whatever season plan, but that is irrelevant to whether or not it will continue being made.

 

[Dan]

But didn't they planned The Knick to last like 4 or 5 seasons before ending it?

I remember reading something like that.

I think the writers simply said they had vague ideas for two-season cycles.

 

[caliph95]

What happened to American Crime? It isn't getting good ratings, did the hype deflate?

American Crime just started its third season and still going on not sure about the ratings

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Someone get Sundance to pick up Quarry S2.

I doubt Sundance could afford it, to be honest.

Dunno, i thought it was regarded as one of the best new dramas of 2016, if not the best.

Not by a long shot. It didn't even make Metacritic or Variety's Top 20. The Washington Post was (one of?) the only major publication to have Quarry in their Top 10 list, and it was #7. Sepinwall had it at #11 of Best New Shows of the year. And that's about it.

Very few people payed attention to Quarry.

What happened to American Crime? It isn't getting good ratings, did the hype deflate?

American Crime's ratings have always been terrible - it getting a second season was a surprise on the same level of Agent Carter and Galavant getting second seasons.

Critical acclaim has only risen, but that hasn't translated to big ratings. (as it rarely does)

Wasn't The Knick supposed to have like 4 or 5 seasons at least with Cinemax?

They planned for the show to be an anthology series, with a new cast and story every 2 years. So if Cinemax was to renew the show, it was expected to be for seasons 3 and 4 at the same time. However, I don't believe any concrete plans were made, at least initially, for the series beyond just the first 2.

 

[morningbus]

Pachimari is most likely confusing American Crime and American Crime Story.

 

[Pachimari]

Pachimari is most likely confusing American Crime and American Crime Story.

No, I'm thinking of American Crime. I thought it used to have a lot of hype. I remember when Season 1 came around and I was caught in the hype or marketing of it as well.

 

[firehawk12]

So for Gap Year, someone took the idea of a travel show and turned it into a sitcom full of 20-somethings. It's such an obvious idea that I'm wondering if they're going to sell it to America soon. lol

Also, I find viewer retention strategies to be kind of interesting now. I guess this is a British thing, but they're afraid that you'll bail after the first episode that they just throw in a trailer of the entire season to try to sell you on the rest of the show... which is great, except it basically just ruins the entire season.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Deadline - AMC Networks Eyes Streaming Service For Subscribers

AMC Networks is reportedly in the planning stages of launching a commercial-free streaming service that would be accessible to subscribers of its channels, according to a Reuters story today.

According to Reuters' sources, the new service is ”considering" a monthly price point of $4.99-$6.99 for content including AMC's flagship The Walking Dead as well as digital spinoffs of existing series on its five channels.

A steaming service for people who already subscribe to AMC: episodes go up on the app the same time they begin airing linearly, except with no commercials or censored content.

I don't know how big of a thing this will be with people who already subscribe, but if they open it up to non-subscribers (which I imagine they will at some point, with a price increase to match HBO/Showtime/Starz's offerings), I could see it being pretty successful.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Dave Erickson will step down as showrunner of Fear the Walking Dead after season 3 wraps. It doesn't appear to be a contentious situation, however, because he'll still serve as an executive producer and has also signed a deal to develop new shows for AMC and Sundance.

”We're beyond grateful for Dave's amazing work on the first three seasons of ‘Fear the Walking Dead.' With Dave as showrunner, the series fulfilled its creative promise to expand The Walking Dead universe in a way that was totally unique from the original series, and has gone on to become the #2 drama series in ad-supported cable, behind only ‘The Walking Dead,' said Joel Stillerman, president of original programming and development for AMC and SundanceTV. ”We are also incredibly excited that Dave has chosen to stay in the AMC family to pursue his next passion project. We look forward to many more successful collaborations."

”I have truly enjoyed working with the writers and directors, cast and crew on ‘Fear' and am so proud of what we have accomplished over our first two seasons," Erickson said. ”I look forward to completing work on season three, sharing it with the fans and developing new projects with my partners at AMC."

Source

 

[berzeli]

WGA Negotiators Call For Strike-Authorization Vote

Lead negotiators for the WGA just sent a letter to the membership that reads, “Your Negotiating Committee has voted unanimously to recommend that the WGAW Board of Directors and WGAE Council conduct a strike authorization vote by the membership.”

Everything is cancelled! dead souls redeemed!

Though to be more clear about it:

This would not be a vote to strike but to authorize the guild’s board of directors to call a strike if further talks fail to produce a deal.

Man, I hope we don't get another writers' strike.

 

[ZeoVGM]

WGA Negotiators Call For Strike-Authorization Vote

Everything is cancelled! dead souls redeemed!

Though to be more clear about it:


Man, I hope we don't get another writers' strike.

There's a part of me that would be excited for this because of how amazing late night television was during the last writer's strike.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

How much longer until the modern, sexy, gritty crime drama remake of the Andy Griffith Show simply titled "Mayberry"?

 

[TheSeks]

nd freshmen The Great Indoors

What do you know... insulting Millennials does you no favors.

 

[kurahador]

dead souls is a premium poster. He'd be on my top 3 GAFfers to have a beer with, absolutely. I think the combination of wit, intelligence, sincerity, hot takes, and truly baffling taste is very appealing to me.

Kinky™.

 

[Stumpokapow]

WGA Negotiators Call For Strike-Authorization Vote

Everything is cancelled! dead souls redeemed!

Though to be more clear about it:

Man, I hope we don't get another writers' strike.

FWIW, two separate people, one WGA, one I'm not sure if he's WGA or not but he's in industry, both told me a month or two ago that they expected a strike. Of course nothing is set in stone until it happens, of course, but my sense is that this isn't just posturing.

 

[G0523]

Legit question: How the hell has The Mindy Project had THREE of the Happy Endings main cast members on the show (Adam Pally, Eliza Coupe, Casey Wilson) and none of them have been on screen together?

 

[Danthrax]

Legit question: How the hell has The Mindy Project had THREE of the Happy Endings main cast members on the show (Adam Pally, Eliza Coupe, Casey Wilson) and none of them have been on screen together?

Can't afford to pay them all at once on a Hulu budget.

 

[Barrage]

FWIW, two separate people, one WGA, one I'm not sure if he's WGA or not but he's in industry, both told me a month or two ago that they expected a strike. Of course nothing is set in stone until it happens, of course, but my sense is that this isn't just posturing.

From what I've read/heard, many on the WGA side are not happy with being caught with their pants down IRT New/Streaming Media last time, and they're gonna try to get out front this go-round.

They definently got fucked aiming so hard at DVD residuals with how entertainment has panned out since.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

How much longer until the modern, sexy, gritty crime drama remake of the Andy Griffith Show simply titled "Mayberry"?

I'd sorta kinda maybe possibly be into that. Lol.

Maybe not gritty, but a soapy and sexy version in the vein of Hart to Dixie, oh yeah. I'd watch that all day. Sexy southern sheriff in a small town, single father, weird townfolks. Add a dash of 90210 for the over 30 set and it could work. Not on The CW though. Maybe TNT, CMT or something.

 

[AngmarsKing701]

I'd sorta kinda maybe possibly be into that. Lol.

Maybe not gritty, but a soapy and sexy version in the vein of Hart to Dixie, oh yeah. I'd watch that all day. Sexy southern sheriff in a small town, single father, weird townfolks. Add a dash of 90210 for the over 30 set and it could work. Not on The CW though. Maybe TNT, CMT or something.

Tina Fey as Bernadine Fife and I'm in.

 

[kevin1025]

FWIW, two separate people, one WGA, one I'm not sure if he's WGA or not but he's in industry, both told me a month or two ago that they expected a strike. Of course nothing is set in stone until it happens, of course, but my sense is that this isn't just posturing.

Yeah, from what I've been reading, a strike is looking more and more possible. If it gets the WGA the streaming residuals and all that entails, then by all means. The only downside is it's going to hurt a lot of shows and creative endeavors along the way, especially now that it's more year-round content and not so tied to fall/spring as it once was. But getting proper deals in place, that's more important.

 

[Joni]

Hope it is resolved quickly though, otherwise a lot of people are getting fired.

 

[Rhaknar]

damn this hit a little too close to home

the thread

 

[berzeli]

damn this hit a little too close to home

the thread

I lost it at "even the Seeso originals!?"

That sketch is great.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

I lost it at "even the Seeso originals!?"

That sketch is great.

I drunkenly yelled at a friend because they binged all of Sons of Anarchy in like 2 weeks but refused to watch more than 3 episodes of The Shield cause it was "boring."

Too. Fucking. Real. Lol

 

[Dan]

damn this hit a little too close to home

the thread

Grad school has forced me to make drastic choices.

Only things I'm currently watching:
The Americans
Full Frontal
Last Week Tonight
Review

Started but behind on:
Legion
Samurai Jack

Dropped:
Black-ish
The Daily Show
Fresh Off the Boat
Girls
Homeland
Love

Shelved until I find time:
The Affair: S3: Season Finale
Bates Motel: S5
The Expanse: S2
Hap and Leonard: S2
The Young Pope

I fear all the stuff starting in April.

 

[G0523]

damn this hit a little too close to home

the thread

This was too real. I mainly watch sitcoms and I struggle with this. I can't imagine how much worse I would get if I dove into all the amazing dramas out there. That video didn't even get into all the reality shows out there either! Do people still watch reality shows? There's just way way WAY TOO MUCH TV out there! I'm glad we're not the only ones that realize this.

 

[Rhaknar]

Catastrophe, Casual, Love, You're the Worst bit tho.

I bet Ratsky watches all of them too :3

 

[RatskyWatsky]

damn this hit a little too close to home

the thread

LMAO

Catastrophe, Casual, Love, You're the Worst bit tho.

I bet Ratsky watches all of them too :3

I watch Catastrophe and You're the Worst, but not the other 2. I've been meaning to watch Casual but I haven't found the time.

 

[ZeroX03]

I STILL HAVEN'T WATCHED FARGO S2 AND S3 IS ABOUT TO DROP

I've got a week of downtime soon so good lord I need to get onto that

 

[kevin1025]

Grad school has forced me to make drastic choices.

Only things I'm currently watching:
The Americans
Full Frontal
Last Week Tonight
Review

Started but behind on:
Legion
Samurai Jack

Dropped:
Black-ish
The Daily Show
Fresh Off the Boat
Girls
Homeland
Love

Shelved until I find time:
The Affair: S3: Season Finale
Bates Motel: S5
The Expanse: S2
Hap and Leonard: S2
The Young Pope

I fear all the stuff starting in April.

How come you dropped Love? You weren't feeling it too much?

You're watching The Americans, Last Week Tonight, and Review, so you're already ahead of most!

 

[Pachimari]

I STILL HAVEN'T WATCHED FARGO S2 AND S3 IS ABOUT TO DROP

I've got a week of downtime soon so good lord I need to get onto that

I still gotta catch up with Season 1 and 2...

 

[Grizzlyjin]

I watch Catastrophe and You're the Worst, but not the other 2. I've been meaning to watch Casual but I haven't found the time.

Pretty sure my household accounts for 25% of Casual's total viewership. I watched both seasons TWICE.

Sometimes I wonder what Hulu's viewer numbers are compared to Netflix for original programming. Nobody ever talks about the Hulu originals. 11/22/63 probably got the most buzz. I was digging Chance, but nobody seems to be into that one either.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

I think Criminal Minds is dead as a franchise.

This season feels like the death bed for the show tbh. 2 long term cast members have gone, Spencer prison arc is awful. "Big Bad" is nowhere to be seen and just talked about each episode.

Beyond Borders is okay I suppose. Some big Law and Order x Chicago style crossovers would be nice but the shows lacks the action and tense drama that Chicago has.

 

[Dan]

How come you dropped Love? You weren't feeling it too much?

I thought S1 was adequate to okay. Some bright spots, but also almost every episode was bloated and the characters leaned more awful than flawed but interesting. I don't feel bad about not having time to check out S2.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Pretty sure my household accounts for 25% of Casual's total viewership. I watched both seasons TWICE.

Sometimes I wonder what Hulu's viewer numbers are compared to Netflix for original programming. Nobody ever talks about the Hulu originals. 11/22/63 probably got the most buzz. I was digging Chance, but nobody seems to be into that one either.

The top ones that I've seen critics buzz about are Casual and Difficult People. I honestly don't recall hearing anyone talk about 11/22/63.

The one that surprised me the most by how "un-buzzy" it was, was The Path. It seemed primed to be their breakout drama, what with Aaron Paul, Hugh Dancy, et al attached, but literally no one talks about that show.

Harlots and The Handmaid's Tale seem to be getting some buzz though.

 

[ZeroX03]

I still gotta catch up with Season 1 and 2...

Can't speak for S2 obviously, but S1 was fantastic.

 

[kevin1025]

I thought S1 was adequate to okay. Some bright spots, but also almost every episode was bloated and the characters leaned more awful than flawed but interesting. I don't feel bad about not having time to check out S2.

Yeah, I can definitely see that. The episode length part was a hurdle for me, since quite a few don't feel like they earned it. I'm almost done the second season and I really liked the first one, this one is quite a bit better. But if you weren't satisfied with the first season, the second season won't change your mind.

The top ones that I've seen critics buzz about are Casual and Difficult People. I honestly don't recall hearing anyone talk about 11/22/63.

The one that surprised me the most by how "un-buzzy" it was, was The Path. It seemed primed to be their breakout drama, what with Aaron Paul, Hugh Dancy, et al attached, but literally no one talks about that show.

Harlots and The Handmaid's Tale seem to be getting some buzz though.

I think the problem with The Path is that it's more adequate than great. It has great moments, but everything else around those moments feels like trying to be something more than it is. I haven't heard anything about the second season, it's crazy how silent it's been for something currently airing.

The Handmaid's Tale I'm super excited for. But for a Canadian author's book and being filmed in Toronto, it's been fairly quiet who's getting the rights in Canada for the show. Apparently it's being announced Monday? *shrug*

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Because of the delay, they didn't cast for a season after this one yet like they regularly would, so no one knows. But the ratings must be bad if they're doing a stupid gimmick like purely random (well probably they mashed people up that they know would fight) teams.

Funny that Asia and Canada might be the only English language versions of the show still going though.

If it is actually in danger, hopefully this potential writer strike situation can give it some hope.

 

[TheSeks]

Pretty sure my household accounts for 25% of Casual's total viewership. I watched both seasons TWICE.

I tried watching a DVD of that, but it skipped. So I stopped.

Maybe if Hulu didn't charge me $10 a month to watch with ads infested in between, I'd consider it.


This reminds me I need to finish Halt and Catch Fire season 2, however.

 

[G0523]

Sunday night's ratings: