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3DS Launching February 26th For 25000 Yen In Japan, March In US/EU, Features Detailed
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VGChampion
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I shiver just thinking about Ping Pals. I bought two copies for full price thinking it was a better Pictochat. That is literally the absolute worst game I've ever bought. And I don't buy games I don't like which is weird.
Azure Dream
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Defending WayForward for a second, if you'll remember, when Nintendo originally showed off Pictochat, there was no guarantee (or even hint?) they were going to bundle it in with the system. That announcement came pretty close to launch if I'm remembering right, which by then Ping Pals would've been pretty much done. It was either go ahead and release the game for whatever sales they could scrounge, or just throw all of the money they spent on development in the trash. Which they effectively did anyway, but it's not like they had much of a choice.
At least it had some Shantae love in it.
I really wanted to like Sprung, but it committed a huge adventure game sin: dialog trees where the choice didn't reflect the attitude of your whole response. I picked a completely neutral response at one point, then the next line following my character's a complete asshole and gets me a game over. Other times it was completely random what would happen after your first statement, it really didn't matter how much logic you tried to apply to the situation because your player character would have a huge attitude shift or do something clumsy or stupid you had no control over.
At least it had some Shantae love in it.
I really wanted to like Sprung, but it committed a huge adventure game sin: dialog trees where the choice didn't reflect the attitude of your whole response. I picked a completely neutral response at one point, then the next line following my character's a complete asshole and gets me a game over. Other times it was completely random what would happen after your first statement, it really didn't matter how much logic you tried to apply to the situation because your player character would have a huge attitude shift or do something clumsy or stupid you had no control over.
AceBandage
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Nekofrog said:
Or asking if it's a port.
:lol
AceBandage
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Gravijah said:
Of a game that never existed?
QuiteWhittle
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The 3DS has plenty of ports. Zelda, StarFox, MGS, SSFIV, Paper Mario, Pilotwings, Kid Icarus...
ShockingAlberto
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I see what you did there.QuiteWhittle said:
A remake is built from the ground up with brand new code and mostly if not completely new assets. A port reuses the same code and assets but tweaked to work on the new platform. Occasionally a port can receive major enhancements or reworkings but the point is the guts or software is reused.defferoo said:
Street Fighter IV and Tales are definite ports, no arguments there.
As for SF64, OoT and MGS3, I honestly can't say for sure at this stage but; SF looks like a remake, OoT looks like a heavily enhanced port (effectively a half remake) and for MGS we haven't actually seen the game yet, just a tech demo.
Yeah, I think OoT is probably getting most of its code from the original, but the assets are new, as are the animations, and menu system.Luigiv said:
To be honest, I don't think companies would completely throw away code from past projects if they're going to remake it for a new platform... it just doesn't make sense. A complete remake of a game is just nonsensical unless it's going from 2D to 3D or they've lost the source code.
Anticitizen One
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Taker666 said:
Wouldn't that ruin the battery? I thout the general rule is to let the battery go down to like 10-20 percent otherwise the battery will eventually not be able to hold much charge.
MidnightScott
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I hope to god Nintendo is making another Mario platformer for the 3DS. I didn't like NSMB DS as much, but I liked the Wii sequel more. Mario & Pokémon are my two favorite game series ever.
QuiteWhittle
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Of course they are.MidnightScott said:
Portugeezer
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Hey, is there a video of the 3DS Lineup without the 3DS in the background?
Lithium ion batteries have no memory effect, so you don't need to discharge it before you recharge them. actually, doing that is bad, you should only cycle your battery once a month. the rest of the time, you should keep it partly charged. keeping it at 100% is bad too, so around 60-70% is best.Anticitizen One said:
-Pyromaniac-
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ohh wait this post was meant for the other 3ds thread
This was true before lithium-ion batteries (like the one in the 3DS).Anticitizen One said:
NiMH batteries used to have a memory effect, where the batteries "remembered" the partial charge level as full charge.
Li-ion batteries, on the other hand, don't suffer from memory effect but tend to lose their capacity with heat and... staying at full charge. They do it naturally over time, but the process is slower when they're not completely charged. This is the main reason why leaving devices powered by these batteries always connected to a charger, or leaving them much longer than needed, is a bad idea.
EDIT: beaten by defferoo.
Dreamwriter
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It doesn't work that way. Code written for the Nintendo 64 just wouldn't work on the 3DS, the systems are completely and totally different. It's possible they might still have source code from 12 years ago, though unlikely, and it's possible some certain bits of it could be reused, assuming they wrote the original game in C or C++ (coming off of the SNES it's possible they wrote much the game in Assembly Language, which is entirely different and unusable altogether). But even then, it could take a lot of time and money for developers to learn how the old code worked good enough to port some of it over to the 3DS. A whole lot cheaper and easier to rewrite it with a more current game engine the developers are used to using. And then they have the start of a new codebase they can use for new 3DS Zelda games.defferoo said:
Chet Rippo
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AceBandage said:
I die a little on the inside every time I read that.
That depends on how well the code is documented. I'm sure they can take a lot of the code from OoT and use it on another system. Since it's most likely C code, it's somewhat abstracted from the hardware and isn't entirely platform dependent (you'd have to change a lot of library calls) but most of the game logic can be reused. Porting code takes time, but fixing bugs takes longer. Since most of the old code has its bugs ironed out, wouldn't it be a huge waste of time to write new code and then debug it.Dreamwriter said:
EDIT: they could even be using a more modern engine like the one used in twilight princess and skyward sword but have it tweaked a lot for the 3DS. the game will probably feel a lot like the newer console zeldas in terms of control and not like OoT.
Little Green Yoda
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Jocchan said:
I guess I should stop charging my DS overnight then. :lol
faceless007
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defferoo said:
Aw crap, I've been charging my DS wrong this whole time. I always let it run completely out then recharge overnight.
I cropped it out from the best quality video i could find. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvnA0YUTjFIEuropeOG said:
TestOfTide
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sinxtanx said:Soooo....
Does this video show that you don't need the cradle to charge?
Don't know if this has been posted.
Yes.
It also shows (for anyone who hasn't realized yet), that the charge port was switched from the left side (on DSi, DSLite, DS), to the right side for the 3DS, which means that they moved the battery to the right side as well (also supported by the fact that the power button is now on the right side as well). And I can guarantee it was moved so that they could have an analog stick on the left side.
AceBandage
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Jin34 said:
Not as long as we still use primitive liquids.
We need portable fission technology.