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3DS vs Vita vs Smartphones/Tablets battle of the portables garbage thread
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flyinpiranha
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painful fart said:
Then you don't want a dedicated gaming device. I get that. If you want multimedia functionality, get an iPad or Tab ... but if you are looking for something that is games first and 'stuff' later, then I couldn't in conscience recommend a tablet.
I want a tablet too, for the odds and ends of gaming that it does offer, to surf the web, watch videos or w/e ... but I'd never buy it as a gaming device. I don't think ... "hrm, Vita, 3DS, or iPad". Some will, some do ... but at that point it's not about the games anymore.
Deadly Joker
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GTP_Daverytimes said:
I was talking specifically about what they showed last night. I do want Uncharted and Escape Plan, but that's really it for right now. Most of the other games I can play on my PS3. I will get one eventually, but right now, it does not warrant a purchase from me personally.
painful fart
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Our family already has 4 ds and 1 psp, so you know where I am coming from. Though one kid is really stuck in the pokemon universe, but everyone else have been fighting for the Tab 10.1 over the past two months.flyinpiranha said:
ColtraineGF
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Rayman Origins.iamshadowlark said:
Which is also coming for 3DS, 360, PS3, and Wii.
Pachterballs
Banned
sajj316 said:
Peacewalker is a PSP title. seems dumb?
GTP_Daverytimes
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Deadly Joker said:
Exactly the point i was trying to get across, you are impressed but not enough to warrant a purchase. That's understandable, at this point i don't think they need to show anymore games. We are already flooded by games.
yurinka
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No, your post seems dumb. If you ever play PW, you'll notice that moving the camera with the face buttons is a pain in the ass, like happened in 99% of PSP FPS and 3rd person shooters with this controls.sajj316 said:
When Vita was originally announced in Japan, they showcased Vita's PSP emulator. Like PSP's or PS3's PS1 emulator, it has options to map certain controls. In this case they mapped the face buttons to the second analog, and at least in the video it worked really well.
They were running Monster Hunter Protable 3rd, which has the same camera controls. So I don't see why PW can't do it. No need to patch it. I assume it isn't a real analog usage, but it seems to work well and better than the face buttons.
When showcasing the emulator they mentioned "it looks great in this screen with higher resolution". Since Vita has exactly the double in with and height of resolution than PSP, I assume the game was running zoomed 2x with some kind of extra AA. I doubt it was really rendered at a higher res.
So considering the PSP version of PW already has transfarring with PS3 (1st version, as Kojima mentioned several times), I don't know why they need to release a PW Vita version. He also mentioned MGSHD (separated from Jap PW PS3 in Japan) and ZOEHD will use the 2nd version of transfarring : Vita vs PS3.
So since they don't announced transfarring 2.0 for PW, I doubt they ever release PW Vita version. BTW if you still didn't noticed it, you can buy PSP games in Vita's PSN store including PW.
You Sir are mistaken, it is an ingenious amalgamation of trans, to move, far, a distance, and ring, signifying this circle of moving saves Kojima-sama has designed.gkryhewy said:
You might think it's some moronic marketing now Kojima has learnt to copy and paste a save file, but you'd be wrong.
Not counting some future titles, most of what I want on the Vita...I can buy on the PS3. FFX HD is nice, and would be a KILLER APP if it was "Vita only". It's not, I can get it on PS3.
Same with ZOE and MGS HD, I can buy those on the PS3 as well. Everything else I'm just not interested in. I don't give a fuck about Uncharted, never did. Wipeout is pretty nice, something I'll get later on. Everything else, I can take it or leave it.
That's not to say 2012 won't be better. I can think of two games off the bat that will get me to buy a Vita: Ys IV Remake and Lumines.
I'll buy a Vita, but it won't be at launch. Period. Most of what I could get for it, I can easily get on my PS3. Same exact versions and everything. I'll wait for more original content.
The Vita will be a great system, like the PSP before it. But I don't see it beating the 3DS out at all. I will say for certain, both portables will not do as well as their predecessors.
Same with ZOE and MGS HD, I can buy those on the PS3 as well. Everything else I'm just not interested in. I don't give a fuck about Uncharted, never did. Wipeout is pretty nice, something I'll get later on. Everything else, I can take it or leave it.
That's not to say 2012 won't be better. I can think of two games off the bat that will get me to buy a Vita: Ys IV Remake and Lumines.
I'll buy a Vita, but it won't be at launch. Period. Most of what I could get for it, I can easily get on my PS3. Same exact versions and everything. I'll wait for more original content.
The Vita will be a great system, like the PSP before it. But I don't see it beating the 3DS out at all. I will say for certain, both portables will not do as well as their predecessors.
Dynamite Shikoku
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BGBW said:
so edgy
Same here. I have some bigger iOS games like Aralon HD and Chaos Rings, but I've barely scratched the surface of them because that's not the type of gaming I do on the go. If I've time to sink into a 'deep' game, I'm doing it properly: PC, big screen, sweet surround sound.kpop100 said:
DidntKnowJack
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Vita has Wipeout. To me that trumps everything else.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
outunderthestars said:
Yep. Virtual controls are absolutely horrible, and always will be.
TheExecutive
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Kinda like saying, "your face is a fad"kpop100 said:
Can ya dig?
TheExecutive
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DidntKnowJack said:
Fixed for my viewpoint.
Ken Masters
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Since getting an iPhone in May I became a huge fan/supporter of mobile/iOS gaming, I'm also extremely excited to get a Vita, day 1 at that. The 3Ds is a joke to me at this point, I won't buy it until the Lite version drops and it's no more then $150.
BladeoftheImmortal
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So is MH4 even exclusive? There was no only on 3DS or anything like that from what I've seen.
OrangeGrayBlue
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BladeoftheImmortal said:
The general consensus is that it may go to Vita, but is at least a timed exclusive.
Anyway, I'm curious to hear gaf's opinion on this: with people saying that both devices are doomed and smartphone gaming will win, how serious do you expect it to be? And to quantify that, do you think either system will pull a dreamcast and go out of production after a couple years? Because unless that happens, I don't see either company in any real danger.
Trent Strong
Banned
ios Dead Space is better than Dead Space 2.
AbsoluteZero
Banned
OrangeGrayBlue said:
I don't see it happening. They'll always be a market for dedicated handhelds. There's a subset of users that won't settle for a phone or tablet.
Will it be knocked down to only one dedicated device? Possibly.
AbsoluteZero
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Magic Ovaries said:
If they were ports, yes, $40 would be too much to ask, as they go for $10 a pop on the Virtual Console.
But if you believe they're ports...well you obviously don't know very much about 'em.
Thats just the thing, I illustrated in my post. Vita can do pretty close to what PS3 does. but... ON THE GO. Such a beautiful thing.M-PG71C said:
I don't have to be stuck in my room, I don't have to be stuck in my house. Hell, I don't even have to be stuck in my state.
PS3 can't do that. If you don't plan on playing your vita (when you get one), outside of your house. Then yes, there is no point.
Pachterballs said:
"Getting things cheaper" is not automatically good for consumers, if the things you want *cannot* exist any cheaper. I'd rather buy a $30 game that exists than a $1 one which doesn't.
I'm a minority there. A minority willing to pay a premium for what I want, rather than settle for what's available at the 'accepted' pricepoint. A lot of people's fear about iOS is that the race-to-the-bottom philosophy will take away the premium products we desire.
Whether that's a market that *deserves* to be protected is a good question. Of course, I'd say yes, but I'm massively biased on the issue!
That said, I think there is scope for making savings in development to reduce the risk involved, which aren't - yet - being undertaken by games companies, but those savings aren't going to plummet the price quite so low.
I love the fact that Vita has so many PS3 ports since I don't own a PS3.
Didn't have a ps2 either (played it a lot over my friends, but still). So games like Persona 4 Golden and some HD remakes will be new experiences for me (I did play through MGS1&2, but it was a long time ago - I'm torn between getting the HD collection for the 360 or PSV)
Still, I might not get a Vita on launch, until it gets a MHgame (MHP3 port will do). Same for the 3DS, it has some games I like but nothing that would push me over the fence - played through OOT and tried a couple of other games, wasn't impressed. I will wait until it gets MH3G (end of 2012 hopefully), the new Etrian Odyssey and perhaps a phantasy star game
Didn't have a ps2 either (played it a lot over my friends, but still). So games like Persona 4 Golden and some HD remakes will be new experiences for me (I did play through MGS1&2, but it was a long time ago - I'm torn between getting the HD collection for the 360 or PSV)
Still, I might not get a Vita on launch, until it gets a MHgame (MHP3 port will do). Same for the 3DS, it has some games I like but nothing that would push me over the fence - played through OOT and tried a couple of other games, wasn't impressed. I will wait until it gets MH3G (end of 2012 hopefully), the new Etrian Odyssey and perhaps a phantasy star game
I had to choose between a ps2 and thisGravijah said:
I picked a gamecube over the ps2 also, and a xbox just for halo2 afterwards.
...ayup
I spent most of my time over my friends house and we played a lot of ps2 & xbox back in the day. Like I said I finished MGS1&2 and some other ps2 classics, didn't miss muchBad_Boy said:
Rollo Lawson
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i was close to getting the vita, but im actually going to pass on both for the time being...
i love my tablet and have come to find the bite-sized gaming pretty convenient. yes ive fallen victim
as far as "real" games...im gonna grab a psp 3000, throw 32gb in it, and call it a day
i love my tablet and have come to find the bite-sized gaming pretty convenient. yes ive fallen victim
as far as "real" games...im gonna grab a psp 3000, throw 32gb in it, and call it a day
I share your fear. I really enjoy iOS gaming and I'd be happy to pay a higher price for my iOS games. It really worries me when I see good titles going free for a week, it's not a good recipe for long term happiness. It's not helping with the perceptions of the games themselves either, some people see a pricetag below £5 and immediately assume the games must be shit.mclem said:
flyinpiranha
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painful fart said:
Of course, it's new. I have a 3DS and the 6 year old loved it, now he's playing PvZ on the iPhone I gave his mom and won't even look at the 3DS. Then I rooted her Nook Color and he loved Angry Birds. Then I got the NES Ambassador games and he wants to play Mario and Zelda now.
Kids aren't a good judge to be honest. We buy him $100 worth of toys for Christmas and he plays with the cardboard from the wrapping paper all morning.
For a month or so he loved NeoPets on the PC with their flash games.
Brainiac 8
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AbsoluteZero said:
*raises hand*
Tablets are great for many reasons, and have a huge variety of uses....but as a gamer, I want a device that's made for gaming first and foremost. I agree though that this may be the last generation to support two dedicated gaming handhelds.
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