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Activision Q2 FY12: MW2 = 22M/BLOPS = 25M; WoW Loses 300,000 Subs; 900,000 Lost Total
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perfectnight
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Yoshichan said:
I'm just glad that they are losing people, at all. Maybe it will make them finally show us something about that new MMO
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Blizzcon this year.perfectnight said:I'm just glad that they are losing people, at all. Maybe it will make them finally show us something about that new MMO
flyinpiranha
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Congratulations Bobby Kotick!
Admiral Bone to Pick
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World of Warcraft is likely losing users to League of Legends. Even still, it has a ridiculous number of subscribers. I just wish it never existed so we could have gotten a proper Warcraft 4.
Randomizer
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Interesting, so the worst COD to date is the best selling and people were starting to think franchise fatigue was setting in lol.
perfectnight
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subversus said:
Seriously! Almost 50 million between 2 games released a year apart. God damn, activision have really hit the lottery with this franchise.
Mr. Serious Business said:
I think that's a fair guess. The market is heavily moving towards the F2P model and WoW is an archaic MMO in more ways than one. They can only polish something so old, so much.
Old Gimlet Eyes
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COD 3 is Black Ops now?Randomizer said:
Alex
Member
Nothing in the Cata beta would have shown off the issues with the expansion, the beta was mostly great. The primary concern with Cataclysm is that the huge revamp of Azeroth, which had very limited use for a seven year old MMO, took gigantic swaths of development time away from more meaningful types of content.
New Azeroth is really nice and all, but it was so much work and so much content just to redo the initial levels of an older game. So much of the landscape redone, like 6 or 7 hours of music, probably well over a thousand quests. All of that, and most of it was probably not touched by a towering majority of the playerbase.
They're still struggling to keep up even now, it's a problem with their consume and dispose-of type game model, they need significantly more in the way of addons and patches than most competitors.
I think they'll pick themselves back up a bit with the next expansion, but I also think they could really stand to look into content models that are a little more player-sustained and reusable. It'd save them a lot of grey hairs.
New Azeroth is really nice and all, but it was so much work and so much content just to redo the initial levels of an older game. So much of the landscape redone, like 6 or 7 hours of music, probably well over a thousand quests. All of that, and most of it was probably not touched by a towering majority of the playerbase.
They're still struggling to keep up even now, it's a problem with their consume and dispose-of type game model, they need significantly more in the way of addons and patches than most competitors.
I think they'll pick themselves back up a bit with the next expansion, but I also think they could really stand to look into content models that are a little more player-sustained and reusable. It'd save them a lot of grey hairs.
As of April 26th, NSMB Wii was at 22 Million: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2011/110426e.pdfsubversus said:
Not sure how many copies it sold in the quarter afterwards, so while it's probably above Modern Warfare 2, it's definitely still behind Black Ops.
Syphon Filter
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Mario Kart still sold more.
TacticalFox88
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Deserved sales for BO. After the trainwreck that was MW2 it's nice that the game has few problems in MP outside of lag and netcode.
ElRenoRaven
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So WOW continues to lose subscribers. Can't say that's surprising. We've without a doubt entered the decline phase it seems.
The lack of information and assets begin now. I won't double dip this year and will only get the Wii version.Wario64 said:
Previous (awesome OP) thread here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=410718. I think the first screenshots we got from Black Ops Wii was blurry shots from the back of the box days before release.
Old Gimlet Eyes
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Which one made more money though? Mario Kart with its higher sales or Black Ops with its sales + DLC? Surely it has to be Black Ops right?Syphon Filter said:
Randomizer
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Darkshier said:
I was referring to the games after COD 4's change of direction for the series. I have never played COD 3 but have heard bad things about it, if its worse than Black Ops then it must be really terrible.
Admiral Bone to Pick
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Home said:
DOTA was insanely popular among the WC3 community, and the fact that LoL is free is likely making it an attractive option to many people (especially with the continuing economic difficulties). The ridiculous numbers of LoL players means there's plenty of overlap between the two userbases, so it's probable that a good portion of people are just making the switch.
Syphon Filter
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Black ops is garbage compared to MW2. Unfinished crap and they just copy what iw does all the time.TacticalFox88 said:
Shalashaska161
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WoW is losing users because it's 6 years old and has had poor PVP balance and end game raid content since the Cata launch. I'd also argue that they have streamlined the game too much to the point where it's no longer interesting, but that's just a personal issue with the game.
LoL probably is stealing customers away from WoW, along with other F2P games. It's a very different world out there nowadays.
LoL probably is stealing customers away from WoW, along with other F2P games. It's a very different world out there nowadays.
Tallshortman
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Randomizer said:
TBH CoD3 is in the same vein as the terrible PS2/xbox spinoffs. Absolutely the worst entry in the main CoD series.
perfectnight
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Shalashaska161 said:
Yep. They aren't even in the same genre but you have to remember that LoL is a free, unique and extremely accessible game with CONSTANT content updates and a huge community. Those are some very nice qualities that you don't find in many online games.
Unhandled Exception
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Until WoW 2.Acerac said:
TacticalFox88
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Holy shit. Where to begin.Syphon Filter said:
Black Ops Removed Stopping Power
Removed One Man Army
No Riot Shield
Nerfed Noob Toobing
Removed Danger Close
Balanced the Perks (Pain in the ass to get the Pros, but Whatevs)
Removed Commando
Removed the dumbass nuke
Killstreaks don't stack
Killstreaks aren't extremely overpowered
Airstreaks aren't CONSTANTLY in the air
There's a counter and a weakness to EVERYTHING
Shotguns are now primary instead of secondary
No tactical knife
The list goes on and on. The only thing MW2 does better than Black Ops is that the Single Player is far better. Not the story mind you, but the missions themselves.
Do DS sales of Black Ops count towards the total even though its a completely different game? Because if so, and you consider the wii release as well, it might appear that COD sales might have been lower than MW2 if it werent for those two platforms.
MW2 looks and runs much better on all three platforms.TacticalFox88 said:
Lothars said:
Milking is when you decide to add new features to the game, but make everyone pay for them on top of the subscription fee. Blizzard is full-on in that mode right now.
As for new free content, they are giving the absolute bare minimum right now. More fetch/kill quests, but you have to do them all for 30 days before you can access the new stuff, plus the incessant recycling/re-tuning of old content instead of coming up with something new.