Micromegas
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That was my recollection.
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Adam Boyes Confirms: Call of Duty: Ghosts is Native 1080p on PS4
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That was my recollection.
plasmawave
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Yeah, but what about the PS4 exclusives? Think about the exclusives!
Sony is not going to be allowing anyone to sell ads over ps4 footage. That is why Adam Sessler said that this is only going to be a problem for very few game journalist and that this is going to affect him directly. I just don't understand how this does not fall under fair use. well thats what i am getting out of all of this.
Oh yeah. I forgot about that myself.
https://twitter.com/albertpenello/status/394340231987470336
Albert Penello - Here's what I know: Today's internet explosion has nothing to do with Xbox One. All is well in Redmond. Sleep tight, and dream of 11/22.
Albert Penello - Here's what I know: Today's internet explosion has nothing to do with Xbox One. All is well in Redmond. Sleep tight, and dream of 11/22.
We don't know that to be the case. It's all speculation at this point. We don't even know Sony is the problem company. We just know it apparently has nothing to do with Microsoft. Could be a large third party.
Glorified G
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Found it! I knew I read it somewhere
The battle of the insiders!
EdReedFan20
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Ah. So the BIG sites (IGN, GS, etc.) have special PS4's with hardware revisions and the other sites have to wait like us for an HDCP FW update?
Goddamn, never heard 720p compared to needing glasses! Excellent dysphemism.
I'm so glad I logged onto GAF tonight.
That all depends on what "setting" the game is running at on PS4. If it's running at "low" then that's not all that impressive. If it's running at "ultra" that would be impressive, but if that's the case I would greatly prefer that they reduce some effects to reach 1080p. There are also likely using FXAA on PS4 and....
900p + FXAA =
Thanks for all the great screenshots guys.
900p looks totally acceptable to me. 720p looks noticeably worse in every pic, whereas 900p looks barely different from 1080p in most parts of the images.
I wish we'd get native 1080p on everything but it looks like 900p is a totally acceptable compromise for my needs. I'm not worried at all (for PS4, that is)
900p looks totally acceptable to me. 720p looks noticeably worse in every pic, whereas 900p looks barely different from 1080p in most parts of the images.
I wish we'd get native 1080p on everything but it looks like 900p is a totally acceptable compromise for my needs. I'm not worried at all (for PS4, that is)
phosphor112
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Yes. Bicubic sampling requires extra processing, as little as it is, adds latency. I'm sure GPU's on PC's are more capable of doing bicubic interpolation. It's something common but consoles have never really had to scale images before. I know 360 has a scaler, but looking at the results of 720p games on a 1080p screen, it doesn't appear that it's bicubic.
Anyway, the reason why 360 has less latency in 720p games on 1080p screens is because the console itself does it.
PS3 doesn't have a scaler, so the TV has to switch to the 720p mode and upscale the signal to the TV. TV's aren't nearly as powerful and you'd likely get some artifacts. That's why you get higher latency when not rendering in the screens native resolution.
Interpolate is to insert something inbetween two things.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicubic_interpolation
My money is on whatever the issue however mundane it is Sony. We should have known from the beginning with it being only Sessler and Gies raising a stink about it and the others looking around in bewilderment as much as we are.
Garrett 2U
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Scandal
Micromegas
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Great find. And with that... enough for one day. Looks like in CBOAT we trust.
Night Angel
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Nightengale
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In your scenario, he loses out with first-party titles.
But there's nothing stopping him from using XB1 footage for everything else, since that's clearly accessible and not restricted.
Sessler isn't Digital Foundry, his bread-and-butter are the generic journalism and reviews, all of which has never really mattered that much in terms of footage comparisons.
Have we been given any information on game differences between the two systems other than resolution? I was under the assumption that the third party titles at launch were running with basically the same level of texture, geometry, etc... and that the only difference was the native resolution. Has there been information to the contrary that I have missed?
ref
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That all depends on what "setting" the game is running at on PS4. If it's running at "low" then that's not all that impressive. If it's running at "ultra" that would be impressive, but if that's the case I would greatly prefer that they reduce some effects to reach 1080p. There are also likely using FXAA on PS4 and....
900p + FXAA =
True, guess we'll have to wait and see.
If I were getting it on PS4, I'd also much rather want 1080p with some reduced effects.
TheRealTalker
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Is this true or just a guess.... Makes sense if so
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Oh man what is happening..
Mushroomer25
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That is what I have gleaned from this whole shebang.
GillianSeed79
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I was going to clean my apartment today. This is like seeing through the looking glass. There's like four more weeks left. I literally haven't been able to tear myself away from GAF all day today.
To those who doubt CBOAT for shame.
You know I've got one of these I could you, you know, maybe leave outside my doorstep:
Kidding. Just kidding.
dragonbane
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What do you think Sony has done that could enrage Sessler so much?
Probably.
I can't believe people are cancelling possibly the best online FPS of the year, just because of moderately compromised resolution (still a good deal above 720p). Some people really are living a dreamworld.
Like I said, 60fps for a high-end game like BF4 was NEVER going to be an easy feat. 1080p would be extremely doable if it were 30fps, but 60fps (which is extremely helpful for online gameplay fluidity/responsiveness) would have always required some sort of compromise. This was the most predictable news ever, and it's your fault if you preordered thinking BF4 was actually going to be full-on 1080p/60. Even super high-end PC rigs had trouble running the BF4 beta at 1080p and a constant 60 frames.
Just be glad it's not 720p/60, because that was a TRUE worst-case scenario.
this is what i get from reading in between the lines.
I love how gies and kevin dent where quick as hell to respond to penello.
That's not confirmed. That would be horrible if true, and I would be upset with any publisher that did that -- but right now we don't know if that's the case. Microsoft has nothing to do with it apparently, but we don't know if Sony is doing what you're saying. If they do, that will make me very upset with them because I like viewing video content, but for now people might just be getting upset over not having pre-release footage on PS4, or a big publisher that's not Sony might me doing what you're suggesting.
Not only that, he got penello's email out of it!
Can Crusher
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No need for the knee jerk, I game at 720p on my T.V (PS3) and only have that level of problem on my PC because I sit closer to the monitor where you know, there's a huge difference between 720p and 1080p. Not an euphemism, try for yourself.
Tireless rehearsal of their Twitter scripts no doubt.
You misunderstand me, your comment amused me. Nothing more, nothing less. It was an excellent dysphemism I've never heard before.
Kibbles
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Man, first replies on Twitter are almost always great.
Except the internet explosion has everything to do with the Xbox One lol. Arthur and Adam may not be talking about Xbox One, but that's hardly what the entirety of today's ass-storm was about.
FinalStageBoss
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why would he need to change industries over that? he cant review games on xbox? on pc?
Codeblew
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Well, if BF is 900p, then I won't be buying it. I am not going to deal with blurry upressed games on my TV this gen. I will buy when 1080p native patch is released (or never).
No, it just means blurry picture on your 1080p TV. (unless you sit like 20ft away or it is a small 20inch TV)
False. See above.
Yes, but it is not upscaled (black bars). Will not look like smeared dog poo.
That is not the point. See above.
No, it just means blurry picture on your 1080p TV. (unless you sit like 20ft away or it is a small 20inch TV)
False. See above.
Yes, but it is not upscaled (black bars). Will not look like smeared dog poo.
That is not the point. See above.
Well...based on what I can decipher from all this craziness today you're looking at this...
1. You're going to see REVIEWS (Written) for PS4 games and NOT Xbone games because of the timing of embargoes
2. There is some sort of issue revolving around capturing video from the PS4...likely a combo of HDCP and also the ability to edit the video and get it out to consumers...we know the HDCP issues are being fixed...but if there are restrictions on monetization of videos including PS4 footage...then that's bad news for guys like Sessler that make a living off that shit...
Yeah true, but I doubt that would be enough for him to consider leaving the entire industry.
famousmortimer
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I said that I heard that it was. I also said that it wasn't a story yet.
Man, first replies on Twitter are almost always great.
That's probably his PSN ID and he can't change it.
Umm, where did I confirm that I was cancelling my preorder. I said I would reevaluate my spending. Btw, bf4 is not and will not be the best online multiplayer when everyone who plays on console tries to play it like COD.
Ha it's funny because it seems like it is every other day anymore. These console wars I tell you. Kind of glad I'm a spectator and not a participator.
Who am I kidding, I'd love to work for either company
lmao.
ProcrasDANation
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Man, first replies on Twitter are almost always great.
This is an out and out lie from Albert here. MS PR continues to astound me.
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